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bhunter 11-05-2011 03:54 AM

Capitalism: A Love Affair
 
Have any of you folks seen this 2009 Michael Moore movie. I suffered through it last night on Encore. I sincerely hope this isn't where the OWS receieved there politcal-economy knowledge. Good grief, this is a blueprint for that movement. My God, they listen to the meanderings of a rich angry fat guy that is part of that 1% and then take to the streets?

Charles 11-05-2011 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bhunter (Post 79799)
Have any of you folks seen this 2009 Michael Moore movie. I suffered through it last night on Encore. I sincerely hope this isn't where the OWS receieved there politcal-economy knowledge. Good grief, this is a blueprint for that movement. My God, they listen to the meanderings of a rich angry fat guy that is part of that 1% and then take to the streets?

Never had the stomach for it myself.

Did watch part of "Into the Wild", mainly because I had no first hand knowledge of it to start with.

Only Hollywood would attempt to take some fool like Chris McClueless and turn him into a tragic hero. I loved the clip which showed him heading into the Alaskan bush with a Nylon 66 (scoped on top of that), a backpack of supplies, and a styrofoam cooler.

Hell, I take more shit than that to go out and shoot beer cans on a Saturday afternoon. And I've never had a styrofoam cooler last longer than a couple of hours.

I thought it was going to be a laugh a minute, but it quickly deteriorated into watching him starve to death in an abandoned school bus. I realize we're not talking about Daniel Boone, but you would think that even this cretin would realize that if there was a school bus, there must also be a road leading back to civilization.

Apparently not.

Chas

djv8ga 11-05-2011 08:39 AM

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He's a fraud.

bhunter 11-05-2011 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by djv8ga (Post 79811)
He's a fraud.

That was great. Thanks for the chuckle.

bhunter 11-05-2011 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles (Post 79803)
Never had the stomach for it myself.

Did watch part of "Into the Wild", mainly because I had no first hand knowledge of it to start with.

Only Hollywood would attempt to take some fool like Chris McClueless and turn him into a tragic hero. I loved the clip which showed him heading into the Alaskan bush with a Nylon 66 (scoped on top of that), a backpack of supplies, and a styrofoam cooler.

Hell, I take more shit than that to go out and shoot beer cans on a Saturday afternoon. And I've never had a styrofoam cooler last longer than a couple of hours.

Chas

I remember Remington's Nylon 66. Didn't it come in both simulated wood color and black stocks. Gosh, I haven't seen one in ages. I'm with you on being prepared. Here in earthquake country, I'm well prepared for all sorts of possible contingencies.

finnbow 11-05-2011 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bhunter (Post 79838)
I remember Remington's Nylon 66. Didn't it come in both simulated wood color and black stocks.

Yep, they came in kind of a brown nylon stock with blued barrel and a black stock with stainless barrel. The black/stainless was a space-age looking thing. They also made one in green for a while, but I've never seen one up close and personal.

BlueStreak 11-05-2011 01:03 PM

Of course. I've seen all of his movies. He is a hypocrite, a fraud and he frequently goes way, way over the top. Using Cuba as a shining example of single payer healthcare being an excellent example. Anybody who buys that is an idiot.

But, having grown up in the Rust Belt, I understand how he feels about people who trust corporations implicitly. They are the biggest and most naive idiots among us.

Dave

finnbow 11-05-2011 03:20 PM

I'll cop to having never seen any of his films. Never wanted to - don't care for polemics of any flavor.

Charles 11-05-2011 04:14 PM

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Yep, they came in kind of a brown nylon stock with blued barrel and a black stock with stainless barrel. The black/stainless was a space-age looking thing. They also made one in green for a while, but I've never seen one up close and personal.

I've never owned a 66, did own a 10-C, same thing only it had a ten round clip instead of feeding through the buttstock...like the little Browning take downs.It was a great little .22, but like all Nylons the receiver wasn't fastened to the barrel, so you couldn't scope it.

Kind of like the 556 Speedmaster...if my memory serves me correct.

Now I had a buddy who had a Nylon 66 bolt gun, and the receiver was fastened directly to the barrel. I wouldn't mind having on of those.

Don't really know why since these are my squirrel pieces.

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Chas

bhunter 11-05-2011 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles (Post 79883)
I've never owned a 66, did own a 10-C, same thing only it had a ten round clip instead of feeding through the buttstock...like the little Browning take downs.It was a great little .22, but like all Nylons the receiver wasn't fastened to the barrel, so you couldn't scope it.

Kind of like the 556 Speedmaster...if my memory serves me correct.

Now I had a buddy who had a Nylon 66 bolt gun, and the receiver was fastened directly to the barrel. I wouldn't mind having on of those.

Don't really know why since these are my squirrel pieces.

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Chas


Is that a modded 10/22 on the left? My favorite 22rfs is the Winchester 52 rifle
and the SW #41 pistol. I also shot the hell out of an old Colt Woodsman, a Ruger Mark Series, and even a High Standard for bit. I really enjoyed plinking and shooting paper.

Twodogs 11-05-2011 05:41 PM

I've eaten many a grey squirrel brought down with my trusty Remington speedmaster. My Dad bought it new because it would shoot shorts as well as LR. I should put a scope on it someday I guess. Right now, the only hunting gun I have with a scope is a pistol. Those are sweet lookin guns there Chas, and well cared for too.

Charles 11-05-2011 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bhunter (Post 79889)
Is that a modded 10/22 on the left? My favorite 22rfs is the Winchester 52 rifle
and the SW #41 pistol. I also shot the hell out of an old Colt Woodsman, a Ruger Mark Series, and even a High Standard for bit. I really enjoyed plinking and shooting paper.

Correct.

Cheap Midway kit..Hogue stock, A&B target barrel, I did spring for a Power Custom hammer & sear kit.

I've got about $400 in it as is. Puts 10 rounds of Wolf Target into 5/8" at 50 yrds. I like it a lot.

The other is a Browning A-Bolt .22. Puts 5 rounds into 3/4" at 50. On a good day. It likes Winchester 22 Target.

Whenever I first bought the Browning, I killed five squirrels with five shots, four in the head, and one through the neck, because I was shooting through leaves. Never could get my limit.

Back before I went blind, I've gone out with a Ruger Single Six and brought back more game that the bunch I went with...who were using scatterguns.

BTW, and this ain't a lie...I kilt muh first squirrel by knocking him out of a tree with a walnut...then I chased 'em down and "sqooze" 'em to death with muh bare hands.

I point this out to these tightfisted hillbillies who get to thinkin' that I'm a fool for spending more on a rekkerd player than what a good .45 or a big hog is worth.

Little Abner....move over!!!

Chas

finnbow 11-05-2011 07:19 PM

I have a mid '60's Remington 581 bolt action that shoots amazingly well. With Wolf Match Target, I can shoot 5-shot one-hole groups about the size of your pinky nail at 50 yds (Federal 711B shoots about 1/2"). I had some trigger work done on it and bedded/floated the action (probably unnecessary). It has only a cheesy Simmons 3-9x rimfire scope on it, but it seems to do the job. I refinished the stock with multiple coats of TruOil and it's very pretty indeed.

For whatever reason, I've end up selling every semiautomatic weapon (pistol, rifle or shotgun) I've ever owned. For that matter, I've also sold every automatic turntable I've ever owned.

d-ray657 11-05-2011 07:25 PM

We need to start a sub-forum for all youse gun hounds. :p

Regards,

D-Ray

Twodogs 11-05-2011 07:27 PM

Chas, that reminds me of a swamp story. A man came up on a small boy in the swamp picking up a fresh kilt squirrel. The boy didn't notice the man, but the man noticed the boy had no gun, so he decided to watch him awhile. After a few minutes, a squirrel poked his head out of nest in a Pecan tree and the boy made a deadly throw of a ball bearing with his left hand. The squirrel fell and the boy walked over and picked the bearing and the squirrel up with his right hand. The stranger emerged and asked the boy why he threw with his left hand, when it was obvious that he was right handed. The boy just grinned, and said "Pa says I tear'em up too bad if'n I throw right handed".:D When I lived there we leased squirrel hunting rights, and used 12 guage shotguns. The squirrels were terrible wild down there, and you had to still hunt them just like a deer. When I moved up to Kansas I thought I'd found paradise. Nobody squirrel hunted and there were big Fox Squirrels everywhere you looked. It didn't take me long to figure out the ones out of hedge trees weren't near as tender or tasty as the ones out of the Pecan groves in LA.:(

d-ray657 11-05-2011 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Twodogs (Post 79924)
Chas, that reminds me of a swamp story. A man came up on a small boy in the swamp picking up a fresh kilt squirrel. The boy didn't notice the man, but the man noticed the boy had no gun, so he decided to watch him awhile. After a few minutes, a squirrel poked his head out of nest in a Pecan tree and the boy made a deadly throw of a ball bearing with his left hand. The squirrel fell and the boy walked over and picked the bearing and the squirrel up with his right hand. The stranger emerged and asked the boy why he threw with his left hand, when it was obvious that he was right handed. The boy just grinned, and said "Pa says I tear'em up too bad if'n I throw right handed".:D When I lived there we leased squirrel hunting rights, and used 12 guage shotguns. The squirrels were terrible wild down there, and you had to still hunt them just like a deer. When I moved up to Kansas I thought I'd found paradise. Nobody squirrel hunted and there were big Fox Squirrels everywhere you looked. It didn't take me long to figure out the ones out of hedge trees weren't near as tender or tasty as the ones out of the Pecan groves in LA.:(

Didn't he end up pitching for the Mets?

Regards,

D-Ray

Twodogs 11-05-2011 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 79927)
Didn't he end up pitching for the Mets?

Regards,

D-Ray

Seems like his last name was Quisenberry (it's an old story).:p

d-ray657 11-05-2011 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Twodogs (Post 79928)
Seems like his last name was Quisenberry (it's an old story).:p

Way off topic (sorry, BH) but are you getting excited about the current version of the Royals. There are so many things to like about them. They really need to keep Chen, because they can't afford to take any type of hit in an already thin rotation, but the everyday lineup could be a real force for a few years to come. I could almost get as excited about these guys as I am the Cards. :)

Regards,

D-Ray

Charles 11-05-2011 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 79921)
I have a mid '60's Remington 581 bolt action that shoots amazingly well. With Wolf Match Target, I can shoot 5-shot one-hole groups about the size of your pinky nail at 50 yds (Federal 711B shoots about 1/2"). I had some trigger work done on it and bedded/floated the action (probably unnecessary). It has only a cheesy Simmons 3-9x rimfire scope on it, but it seems to do the job. I refinished the stock with multiple coats of TruOil and it's very pretty indeed.

For whatever reason, I've end up selling every semiautomatic weapon (pistol, rifle or shotgun) I've ever owned. For that matter, I've also sold every automatic turntable I've ever owned.

I for sure hated to part with my Sansui 3080, but it didn't make any sense when I owned a Rega Planar II and a Rega Planet.

One with a ADC-ALT-1 and the other with a SME IIIs.

So let's talk about pop guns.

I like revolvers, bolt actions, and pumps.

My favorites are my two Ruger M77's, one in .25-06, the other a 77V in .243. The varmint gun will shoot 3/4" MOA with my crude handloads...I buy factory seconds from Sierra , their factory is about 30 miles away.

The best I can remember, 70 gr Blitz in whatever brass I've got, neck sized, 46 grns of IMR 4350 with CCI BR2 primers.

Don't quote me on this load, but it does produce close to 3,400 FPS, according to the old Speer #9.

Now you can pretty much quote me on my favorite .25.06 load, 120 gr Nosler BTSP over 50 gr. of IMR 4831 with a CCI BR2 primer.

According to the book, 3,000FPS, and this load gives up nothing to a 130 gr. .270 load.

Btw, Finn, would you like pics of my Great Gran fathers original .Marlin .410 lever action?

Only 6K produced, and mine has the 26" barrel. Had to do a little smithy work on it, but I killed a rabbit with it a few years ago.

I also own a NIB Iver Johnson Champion 16 Ga. Supposdly never fired, but I don't buy that.

But it is as slick as snot on a doorknob, and the box it came in is marked like something like $7.50???

You've already seen pics of my Python Elite and Diamondback .22...I was hoping they would connect and produce a Cobra.

Chas

Rex E. 11-05-2011 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles (Post 79883)
I've never owned a 66, did own a 10-C, same thing only it had a ten round clip instead of feeding through the buttstock...like the little Browning take downs.It was a great little .22, but like all Nylons the receiver wasn't fastened to the barrel, so you couldn't scope it.

Kind of like the 556 Speedmaster...if my memory serves me correct.

Now I had a buddy who had a Nylon 66 bolt gun, and the receiver was fastened directly to the barrel. I wouldn't mind having on of those.

Don't really know why since these are my squirrel pieces.

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Chas

I just got home from sending about five hundred rounds down range with my trusty old, original Ruger 10/22. Probably shot another two hundred or so with the Mark II.

I went to the range with a friend from work that I'd never been shooting with. (hell, it's been three years since I've shot at all). He had never shot a Mark II and was blown away by the feel and accuracy of it. He was also a bit shocked at how accurate the little stock 10/22 shoots. I believe he'll be buying a Mark series soon.

On the other hand, my friend is into the new military type of weapons and brought out his FN SCAR light and I must say I've considered selling stereo gear to get one. Nice weapon in .223 with no recoil. Their "Heavy" version SCAR in .308 just beat out the M16 and will be the new rifle for the military.

Rex E. 11-05-2011 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles (Post 79937)
I for sure hated to part with my Sansui 3080, but it didn't make any sense when I owned a Rega Planar II and a Rega Planet.

One with a ADC-ALT-1 and the other with a SME IIIs.

So let's talk about pop guns.

I like revolvers, bolt actions, and pumps.

My favorites are my two Ruger M77's, one in .25-06, the other a 77V in .243. The varmint gun will shoot 3/4" MOA with my crude handloads...I buy factory seconds from Sierra , their factory is about 30 miles away.

The best I can remember, 70 gr Blitz in whatever brass I've got, neck sized, 46 grns of IMR 4350 with CCI BR2 primers.

Don't quote me on this load, but it does produce close to 3,400 FPS, according to the old Speer #9.

Now you can pretty much quote me on my favorite .25.06 load, 120 gr Nosler BTSP over 50 gr. of IMR 4831 with a CCI BR2 primer.

According to the book, 3,000FPS, and this load gives up nothing to a 130 gr. .270 load.

Btw, Finn, would you like pics of my Great Gran fathers original .Marlin .410 lever action?

Only 6K produced, and mine has the 26" barrel. Had to do a little smithy work on it, but I killed a rabbit with it a few years ago.

I also own a NIB Iver Johnson Champion 16 Ga. Supposdly never fired, but I don't buy that.

But it is as slick as snot on a doorknob, and the box it came in is marked like something like $7.50???

You've already seen pics of my Python Elite and Diamondback .22...I was hoping they would connect and produce a Cobra.

Chas

Now I've got to go check my .270 rounds as I'm pretty sure I have them moving at about 3300fps but they may not be as heavy as the 130 grain tip.

finnbow 11-05-2011 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rex E. (Post 79939)
Now I've got to go check my .270 rounds as I'm pretty sure I have them moving at about 3300fps but they may not be as heavy as the 130 grain tip.

The load that made the 270 famous (and that I mostly shoot) is either a 130 gr. Sierra or Speer BTSP on top of 60.0 gr of H4831. Wonderfully accurate and hard-hitting at about 3060 fps. Anymore, I mostly bowhunt and do a little blackpowder on the side.

Rex E. 11-05-2011 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 79940)
The load that made the 270 famous (and that I mostly shoot) is either a 130 gr. Sierra or Speer BTSP on top of 60.0 gr of H4831. Wonderfully accurate and hard-hitting at about 3060 fps. Anymore, I mostly bowhunt and do a little blackpowder on the side.

I loaded Nosler Ballistic tips for deer hunting but think I went with a light bullet to get a faster muzzle velocity. I know The deer only took about three steps after it hit him. Shooting a a Browning BAR .270

finnbow 11-05-2011 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rex E. (Post 79941)
I loaded Noslar Ballistic tips for deer hunting but think I went with a light bullet to get a faster muzzle velocity. I know The deer only took about three steps after it hit him. Shooting a a Browning BAR .270

I bet a light, fast ballistic tip tore a nasty hole. :eek: I shoot the 130 gr. load out of a Remington 700 ADL, wood stock (bedded/floated), trigger job, and a 3-9x Leupold VariXII.

I also have a Model 7 (shorter barreled) in .223 with a 3-9X VariXII Compact scope on it. It is most accurate with 52 gr. match BTHP's. I buy factory seconds from Black Hills for this one.

Oerets 11-05-2011 10:25 PM

My 30-06 Springfield been good enough for me the past 30 something years. Though bought my wife a Ruger SS 10/22 and scoped it up for her. Cheaper to shoot for sure.


Back to MM and his movies, he states some view points that should make one think! "WTF"
Painful to some but still he does has a right to point them out. You never know what is the truth if you only listen to what makes you feel good........




Barney

d-ray657 11-05-2011 10:47 PM

It's interesting that people want to take shots at Moore like he doesn't deserve to be rich, but defend the exorbitant pay of CEO's. Moore, however, is much more directly responsible for his income than the CEOs. Moore's income is a direct result of the success of his movies - how many fannies he puts in the seats and how many DVDs he sells. The compensation of the CEOs on the other hand are dependent on their cronies scratching each others' backs by serving on the boards approving the salaries. Why does the right wing so hate people who have been successful.:p

Regards,

D-Ray

BlueStreak 11-06-2011 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 79944)
It's interesting that people want to take shots at Moore like he doesn't deserve to be rich, but defend the exorbitant pay of CEO's. Moore, however, is much more directly responsible for his income than the CEOs. Moore's income is a direct result of the success of his movies - how many fannies he puts in the seats and how many DVDs he sells. The compensation of the CEOs on the other hand are dependent on their cronies scratching each others' backs by serving on the boards approving the salaries. Why does the right wing so hate people who have been successful.:p

Regards,

D-Ray

Well, when the source of that success is your uncanny ability to point out how full of excrement they are.........................

Dave

merrylander 11-06-2011 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 79943)
My 30-06 Springfield been good enough for me the past 30 something years. Though bought my wife a Ruger SS 10/22 and scoped it up for her. Cheaper to shoot for sure.


Barney

Guess my Crossman .177 wadbuster won't kill anything but I bet it smarts some.:D

djv8ga 11-06-2011 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 79944)
The compensation of the CEOs on the other hand are dependent on their cronies scratching each others' backs by serving on the boards approving the salaries. Why does the right wing so hate people who have been successful.:p

Regards,

D-Ray

A Lefty lawyer stereotyping CEOs & the Right is halarious to me. :D

Rex E. 11-06-2011 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 79944)
It's interesting that people want to take shots at Moore like he doesn't deserve to be rich, but defend the exorbitant pay of CEO's. Moore, however, is much more directly responsible for his income than the CEOs. Moore's income is a direct result of the success of his movies - how many fannies he puts in the seats and how many DVDs he sells. The compensation of the CEOs on the other hand are dependent on their cronies scratching each others' backs by serving on the boards approving the salaries. Why does the right wing so hate people who have been successful.:p

Regards,

D-Ray

From what I've seen and heard if you are part of the 1% or even part of the upper rich then it does not matter how you got there. You owe and you better pay.

It is interesting how all the rich liberals get a pass though. (ie...mm)

Rex E. 11-06-2011 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 79961)
Guess my Crossman .177 wadbuster won't kill anything but I bet it smarts some.:D

I'd prefer not to take the welp!

djv8ga 11-06-2011 09:46 AM

My RWS 350 Magnum (.22) could kill something if I could only hit something with it. :o
It really is a hard air rifle to get the hang of.

finnbow 11-06-2011 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by djv8ga (Post 79998)
My RWS 350 Magnum (.22) could kill something if I could only hit something with it. :o
It really is a hard air rifle to get the hang of.

Shooting spring piston guns, particularly the high-power ones, is tricky indeed. Generally, you need to grip the forend very lightly or even just let it rest in your hand. Also, be sure not to grip tightly with the trigger hand. Lastly, if shooting of a bench, don't rest it on a hard surface.

In short, very light gripping front and back and no resting on hard surfaces. Also, pellet rifles can be very picky about which pellets shoot best. I've had the best performance from RWS Meisterkugeln.

With the right pellets and good shooting form, I can shoot a group about the size of a dime at 20 yards with my Gamo 1000 fps .177 scoped rifle. Bad form and lesser pellets will triple the group size.

Charles 11-06-2011 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 80058)
Shooting spring piston guns, particularly the high-power ones, is tricky indeed. Generally, you need to grip the forend very lightly or even just let it rest in your hand. Also, be sure not to grip tightly with the trigger hand. Lastly, if shooting of a bench, don't rest it on a hard surface.

In short, very light gripping front and back and no resting on hard surfaces. Also, pellet rifles can be very picky about which pellets shoot best. I've had the best performance from RWS Meisterkugeln.

With the right pellets and good shooting form, I can shoot a group about the size of a dime at 20 yards with my Gamo 1000 fps .177 scoped rifle. Bad form and lesser pellets will triple the group size.

I've noticed I can't miss with muh old Mossberg pump with a 30" full choke tube.

At least as far as I can see.

But that's cheating.

Chas

BlueStreak 11-06-2011 04:19 PM

I once chased a would be home invader off of my porch and down the street with a Hickory ax handle. He never came back. Admittedly, I know very little about guns. But, you can bet your kidneys that I would have crushed his skull and enjoyed it. Probably a whole lot more than shooting him. Too quick, not enough screaming and pointless begging for mercy.:)

Dave

Charles 11-06-2011 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 80092)
I once chased a would be home invader off of my porch and down the street with a Hickory ax handle. He never came back. Admittedly, I know very little about guns. But, you can bet your kidneys that I would have crushed his skull and enjoyed it. Probably a whole lot more than shooting him. Too quick, not enough screaming and pointless begging for mercy.:)

Dave

Pick handles are better.

Chas

painter 11-06-2011 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by djv8ga (Post 79998)
My RWS 350 Magnum (.22) could kill something if I could only hit something with it. :o
It really is a hard air rifle to get the hang of.


I have an eight year old grandson that got top scores in scouting on his DAISY! Gotta teach em early. :D

Hope your hand is healing nicely.

Twodogs 11-06-2011 05:47 PM

Just got back from burning up a few hundred rounds with the Missus. She's breaking in her first auto pistol and did good for first time out. My damn high power is shooting about 2 inches left all the sudden.:confused: Nice tight groups, just a hair left. It's got combat sights, so adjusting should be a snap. I checked out the old deer rifle too, just in case, and man I'm near blind. At 80 yards with iron sites I could just barely stay inside the black. Good thing my average deer shot is closer to 30 or 40. It was so bad that I actually thought that maybe it's time for a scope, but talked myself out of it pretty quick. Maybe next year, or the next.:rolleyes:

d-ray657 11-06-2011 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Twodogs (Post 80098)
Just got back from burning up a few hundred rounds with the Missus. She's breaking in her first auto pistol and did good for first time out. My damn high power is shooting about 2 inches left all the sudden.:confused: Nice tight groups, just a hair left. It's got combat sights, so adjusting should be a snap. I checked out the old deer rifle too, just in case, and man I'm near blind. At 80 yards with iron sites I could just barely stay inside the black. Good thing my average deer shot is closer to 30 or 40. It was so bad that I actually thought that maybe it's time for a scope, but talked myself out of it pretty quick. Maybe next year, or the next.:rolleyes:

Face it, TD, you're just starting to lean to the left. :p

Regards,

D-Ray

Charles 11-06-2011 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 80102)
Face it, TD, you're just starting to lean to the left. :p

Regards,

D-Ray

He's just shooting towards the left.

Chas


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