Resignations
 

I hadn't seen any resignations for years at my place, nobody was going anywhere.

Now, we are starting to see a trickle. Some guys have found better jobs, and they are turning in their notice.

We had one guy who had transferred into my group, taking a job that must be the most tedious in the world (assistant to the release manager), and after four weeks in the position he was shaking hands and moving on. Obviously something he had been working on came through.

And in another field, my niece was stuck in a low-paying job at an elementary school. Two weeks into the school year, a place she had interviewed at over the summer called her and offered her $14K more.

Whether any of this will have any impact on the unemployed, or is just musical chairs, is not yet clear.

Well, I'm not jumping through my asshole with joy just yet, but it is a positive sign.

Least in your neck of the woods.

Chas

Yep, that's what makes me wonder sometimes. I hear about high unemployment constantly............but, I don't know any unemployed people. Even my relatives in Ohio are all working. I know lots of underemployed people, reduced hours, shitty pay, working beneath their skills, (Or under the table.)........................

What gives?

Dave

Found out last night that the manager at our local liquor store quit after an argumant with the owner. He is thinking of opening his own store, if he does he gets our business. Asked the chap acting as manager if he wanted the job, he said "Hell no because I would argue with Jon too and then quit". The owner sounds like a reas a**hole.

C'mon up here to Detroit. I'll introduce you to plenty.

Detroit has been a shithole since the end of WW2. The militant reaction to unfettered capitalism there has been brutal, long term and well deserved. The rabid racism, the repeated and failed attempts at using poor blacks as scabs and the subsequent attempts to house and maintain them, unemployed, has left scars that may never heal. Now, you want to do the same for the rest of the country. Thanks.

Now put on your tri-corner hat and go teabag for Jesus. Your masters are frightened they might have to do something for someone other than themselves.

Dave

Oh no, Rob. He's a businessman, they are ALL precious and perfect. Don't you ever watch Beck?:rolleyes:

Dave

My daughter after temping got one of thse precious NY state jobs. :D

I went into work today after working from home yesterday, and I had a message on my phone.....a headhunter! "We have lots of good positions at major financial firms in the NYC area, they need business analysts, java programmers, and C++ programmers. Send me you email address, and I'll send you a full list!"

I haven't got anything like that since 2007.

Good for you!

Here we have another coffee plant scheduled to open next year. My plant is adding five new production lines. In my hometown in Ohio, they have a new steel mill scheduled to come online in the next couple of months.

You think we''ll see any of this good news on Fox? No, it's too soon. The GOP can't steal any credit for it yet.

Dave

So cities like Detroit became fantastically wealthy without rich people, and when they moved in it ruined the city.

Pete

It wasn't their presence - just their greed.

Regards,

D-Ray

The rich people moved down the street to Grosse Point, after they shut down the factories and exported all of the jobs, leaving a desolate and crime ridden city behind them.

Maybe if we throw more money at them?

Dave

How did it become wealthy in the first place? Government regulation? Or men with vision desiring wealth?

Pete

Or men with sticky fingers?

How about men with a vision to create a product.

Regards,

D-Ray

I thought wealth was the outcome of doing a good job, creating a good product, etc. Now wealth has become the goal, not the result.

Wealth was always the goal!

Pete

Option two, our course. But desiring it just a little too much. And being a tad too ruthless in their pursuit of it.

Action-Reaction.

There is a tipping point, where those being driven will take no more.

Dave

Then the outcome was inevitable, If my aim is to become wealthy and I search around for some widget that will sell and make me wealthy then I will make it a cheaply as possible.

If , on the other hand I invent the proverbial mousetrap then I will endeavour to make it as well as it can be made - why? Because it has my name on it.

Blue, then the reaction is - hellholes like Detroit or Cleveland? I know what you mean, but it wasn't the wealthy that ruined Cleveland anyway. Heck, just about the only 'good' things here, like the art museum or Severance hall were built and paid for by the wealthy!

Sometimes I visit them and wonder what wealth is like lol.

Rob I was wrong about it being wealth, alone and exclusively. Perhaps success it a better term. And to many wealth is a part of their envisioned success.

Pete

Pete, you nailed it this time. Pursuit of wealth for the sake of wealth gets us toxic derivatives. I've seen companies built with pride in craftsmanship begin to fail when the only concern became the profit margin. Isn't the focus on cutting corners to make more money what was, at least in part, responsible for the scourge of BPC?

Regards,

D-Ray

Uh......Bingo!

Dave

I'd still say most consider wealth the most important thing. People are idiots though, instead of long term stability they kill the golden goose and spend what they have.

Sounds like Washington :)

Pete

If you think about it, Pete, what the eternal fight is about is this;

Few people will argue against the idea that there must be some degree of financial incentive, that's not the argument.

The argument lies in what is reasonable incentive, and what actions are acceptable in the pursuit of wealth?

Do you spread the wealth until no one has anything?---Communism.

Or do you allow unchecked concentration of wealth until only a few have it all?---Unregulated Capitalism.

Both run on the same foolish assumptions.....That either powerful governments or powerful corporations will, given the freedom to do as they see fit and out of the goodness of their hearts, see that the average citizen fares well.

Problem is; Power corrupts and most ambitious people seek to advance only themselves.

I'd rather empower the "average citizens" to protect their own interests, and hope that this strikes a sort of balance.

Dave

Then there was the dimwitted bozo who imposed quarterly reporting, a Wall Streeter's dream come true

Yep. Enlightened self-interest only works to the extent that the people in question are enlightened. I have a hard time buying into the notion that the party who supports unbridled capitalism (the GOP) is enlightened, particularly in light of the clowns they're running for President.

Checks and balances. Monopolies aren't capitalism and capitalism does balance itself. The government should simply referee, but it wants to pick winners and losers. That way it can sell more, and for more money.

Pete

Monopolies are the result of unchecked capitalism, and no, capitalism doesn't "balance itself". Never has, never will. This is why T.R.s "anti-trust" crusade became necessary, and will become necessary once again after the tea party goons strike it down. Same goes for many of the labor and environmental laws they have targeted.

Some people never learn. They have to put us through it time and again.
Their trust in human nature is amazingly naive.

Dave

Aw Dave, capitalism does balance itself - like a seesaw - one day you're up one day down, but in balance.

Detroit!
 

the bed of liberalism. Is this the label of america for you liberals. THE LEFTIES DREAM!!!!!

CANT YOU LEARN PROPER GRAMMAR?. sorry for yelling. since its proper for your folks?

so you say , you are the status flow. just saying.

liberalism does not work!

I get a bit loud when drinking :D But I suspect you're confusing me for someone else :p

Heck Cleveland was fantastically wealthy. Dad says they passed a tax, they called it the 'Rockefeller tax', and all the rich people moved out. Since then it's been a workers' paradise.

Pete

Do we need further proof that drinking causes brain damage? :confused:

Regards,

D-Ray

Drain bamage? :D

Pete

I don't care what the people are thinking.

Regards,

D-Ray

You do realize, however, Budgie that per capita incomes, educational levels and entrepreneurship are generally highest in the more liberal states, don't ya? Explain that to me in your customary erudite fashion.

I'm not sure Limbaugh or Fox will have a show on this topic, so you may need to come up with an answer on your own.;)

You do realize there are rich people living in the areas surrounding Detroit. Rich people and the very poor. Damn little in between.

My 2nd oldest brother had himself a "Lower to Middle Management" sort of job at General Motors for many years. He once told me that in a meeting back in the 1990s some GM bigwig from the headquarters in Detroit joked, "Just because we sent all of the work to Mexico doesn't mean we have to go with it."

This is where the rest of the country is headed, my friend. Regardless of who you vote for. And, THAT'S the truth.

Rich people don't give a fuck about us. I know this to be true, H. Ross Perot told me so. Heck, he told the whole country the truth and no one was listening.......'cept little old me, apparently.