The Republicans are in big trouble!
 

Lately there is a drumbeat on almost evey channel in the NY/NJ pleading with Gov. Christie to run for president. This indicates to me that the repubs are in big trouble.
After Perry's poor debate performance the repubs are in a frenzy to find someone to beat Romney for the nomination.

Because they know Obama is poised to use "Masscare" as a powerful weapon against him.
It was just another thing on the long (and growing) list of Republican ideas that the administration adopted that was later attacked as "socialist" by the right. Christie is the only viable (potential) candidate left that doesn't have this baggage, AFAIK. What gets me is the level of desperation. I know it's tough out there, but I suspect that part of the problem is this hysteria itself. They are still so filled with dread over having a liberal Democrat in the Whitehouse that they are paralyzed with it. Obsessed nothing more than getting rid of him.

What was that FDR said? "....all we have to fear is fear itself."

Hmmmm.....

Dave

I'm not sure Romney is the kinda guy the RNC can control. That is probably their biggest fear. I'm sure even the RNC and the like of folks like Pete will be out screaming in the streets how Salt Lake City will be calling the shots (much like the Vatican was gonna with Kennedy) just to make sure he does not even get close.

Shame as he's one of the few from the right with the business and social sense this country could use.

It appears Romney is the only viable candidate, but he is the "father" of Obamacare. This has hardcore conservatives in knots. :D

Just Repub's in trouble? Naw man, I cant find use for nary side anymore. It's not just the Dem's I see as worthless, but neither darn sugar coated crooked asshole side is trustworthy.

Finding yourself awash in a sea of liars, lunatics and wolves without a true superhero in sight, are ya?

Welcome to the real world, Dave.;)

Dave

It's way too early to tell. The machinations of the media means little at this point. Go back to 2007 and look where Obama was relative to Hilliary. That is also a good lesson in how wrong so-called pundits often are. That said, I'm not particularly enthralled by either side. What will be fun is watching both sides trying to appeal to the independents without provoking anger from their base.

Where's "Nature Boy" Kirby when you need 'em???

Chas

You mean the tea baggers has made it extremely difficult to select a reasonable candidate.

Christine O'Donnell for President!!!:D

To point out that the Mormons are a very powerful wealthy clan is screaming? Ever dealt with them businesswise? The ONLY way you'll get a slim dime is if after combing the planet they can't find a fellow Mormon to deal with.

However if he is nominated I'll vote for him, although I suspect the difference between him and Obama is one ruling class shill for another.

Of course, I hear the left screaming about evangelical Christians all the time ;)

Hehehehehe...

Obama shows way on this problem, considering how he dealt with the fringe on the left. It becomes a problem come reelection time though.

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Pete

Not comparable to the fringe on the left. The teabaggers have become a more powerful, potent force in the party.

You should'a been up here during the 04 campaign. Where I lived at the time, every nut and freak for 50 miles crawled out of the woodwork to bang on my door and discuss 'issues' :D

Pete

What's wrong with that???

Chas

The issue here is not wrong or right. I was only pointing out the effect on electability.

Chas,

If I might reinforce Dondillion's position, consider this. Would you consider for Sarah Palin or Micchelle Bachman for President? Whatever choice you would make there, would you consider yourself one of the independent voters that is "in play" in every presidential election?

Bachman would have no national prominence but for her exposure through the Tea Party. Sarah had national recognition when the Tea Party came around, but she used the Tea Party affiliation to enhance her status within the party as a power broker. Her spiel certainly plays best to the tea party. Both Bachman and Palin would be absolutely dependent on the Tea Party element of the GOP to win the nomination. In that sense, the Tea Party would be delivering one who I consider unelectable in the general election. It is in that way that the Tea Party harms the GOP, God bless 'em.

Regards,

D-Ray

You might say that neither would be my first choice.

While not a great fan, Romney looks to be the most electable, so if I had to vote, I'd vote for him at this point in time.

Chas

They just called me on the phone and woke me up while I was taking a nap.

Assholes.

Chas

BFD, our Verizon phone is unlisted but I neglected to ask for the same with the Comcast phone. Fortunately it only rings in our office so it is easy to ignore. Funny how huffy they get when I tell them the only way I would vote Repulican is if someone had a gun to my head, and even then I am not certain.:p

LOL! I love messing with telemarketers. I often rate their performace for them.

Pete

I just remind them that I am on the "no call" list and they run away scared.

Regards,

D-Ray

Dead House Plant VS Obama in a presidental election.
Dead House Plant wins in a landslide.

I tell 'em I'm on the no fucking call list and I've bugged my phone.

Which I have. Just most of the time I'm too lazy to activate the bug, but I don't tell 'em that.

Chas

I can see the headlines.

"Box o Rocks wins in a landslide. Donks stunned!!!"

Chas

Well, at least Chas and DJ have nailed the current crop of Republican candidates. :p

Regards,

D-Ray

I've been thinking a Dead House Plant/Box of Rocks ticket would be unbeatable under any circumstance. But, only running as Prez/VP, though. Individually, they lose their a......ppeal............

What a minute....Wasn't that the Republican ticket Obama beat in '08?

Dave

BTW Christ Christie has announced: Now is not my time. A very smart man.

Seems I hear some republicans saying that Romney is the only candidate that can beat Obama, like that's why they support him. I think any good candidate can beat Obama.

I think you're right, simply because Obama is beating himself.

But I still think Romney will get the nod, simply because he's like serving boiled chicken at the retirement home.

Nobody really likes him, but most anybody can gag him down.

Chas

Very interesting, reads like a Goebbels speech.

BTW, I've been dealing with two of them for the almost forty years I've been alive. ;)

Now...I didn't expect the good all knowing Christian to come back to this as he's been called just what he is, Goebbels like.

I have to admit that the silence from the rest on this board is shocking at the least.

I only know one Mormon and he's a good dude. Christian as they come too, just believes there was another profit, that's all.

Freudian slip? (prophet)

I wonder if Mormon's keep ****** on hand.

This the very thing that got my father to convert some forty years or so ago.

Growing up in North West Missouri with dirt floors, no running water or electricity he did a lot of reading(when the chores were done and the sun had not set). The main two books on the farm were the Bible and the Dictionary. He became quite versed in both. He said in the Bible God always had a prophet on earth. When he was looking for a church to join the closest thing to a prophet was the Pope but he knew the Pope was no prophet as he'd watched many a widow turn the family farm over to the Catholic church to by the poor dead mans soul from purgatory. This led to the LDS church as they were the only church with a prophet like God had always had.

Nope, this guy is dirt floor poor, and likes it that way. He spends most of his free time and disposable income trying to help drunks and addicts get clean.

Ha, dirt floors in 3 posts in a row now. I can remember my aunt sweeping her dirt floors. They were like concrete really. Her bathroom was outdoors too, and I can remember getting water for her from a well in the front yard. This was Southeast Missouri though.

Sounds like a good man.

He really is, he took me to my first "several" AA meetings when I was too drunk to walk, much less drive. He wasn't pushy at all, just let me know that if I needed a ride, he didn't mind taking me.

Had a 3XGreat Uncle who either joined the Mormon Church or arrived here in the U.S. under their auspices. Oddly Uncle Edward arrived at New Orleans aboard a Nova Scotia built ship. They took the steamer up to St. Louis and there was an outbreak of cholera on board and poor Uncle Edward died a month later. So I may well have Mormon relatives and nearly everyone who shares my surname west of the Mississippi is a cousin at some remove.

Having grown up in Quebec their attitude toward children does not sound much different than Vatican Roulette as preached by the Roman church. One of the things that makes me profoundly dislike this Cain character, he is dead set against abortion, even in the case of rape and incest. Why is it some men seem to think they know more about women's bodies than the women do? Enough that she was raped must she bear the perps progeny?