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noonereal 06-03-2011 12:19 PM

Imbecile
 
PALIN: He who warned, uh, the British that they weren’t going to be taking away our arms uh by ringing those bells and making sure as he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free and we were going to be armed.

BlueStreak 06-03-2011 12:33 PM

The Circus resumes. I liked her description of Trump as "...down to earth and well grounded....":eek:

OMG,

Dave

finnbow 06-03-2011 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 64364)
PALIN: He who warned, uh, the British that they weren’t going to be taking away our arms uh by ringing those bells and making sure as he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free and we were going to be armed.

It's hard to argue with that logic.;):eek:

flacaltenn 06-03-2011 01:36 PM

Ah NoOneReal:

The mission of those British Soldiers WAS to take the armories at Lexington and Concord.

THAT -- dear hysterical bro --- IS historical fact...

So your point is.... ???? At least ding her for her ding-bat moments. :)

noonereal 06-03-2011 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flacaltenn (Post 64383)
Ah NoOneReal:

The mission of those British Soldiers WAS to take the armories at Lexington and Concord.

THAT -- dear hysterical bro --- IS historical fact...

So your point is.... ???? At least ding her for her ding-bat moments. :)

clue, Paul Revere did not warn the British, he warned of the British

also I wonder what kind of bell she thinks he rang, the liberty bell no doubt

finnbow 06-03-2011 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 64398)
clue, Paul Revere did not warn the British, he warned of the British

also I wonder what kind of bell she thinks he rang, the liberty bell no doubt

Hey, he warned somebody about something. That pretty much passes a Factual Accuracy Review in the Palin universe.:cool:

flacaltenn 06-03-2011 03:28 PM

I think our local reporting of this Palin incident was ... lacking or embellished. Take a pick.

OK -- so let's get an OFFICIAL report...

http://teachingamericanhistory.org/l...p?document=865
Quote:

I am to acquaint your Lordship that having received Intelligence of a large Quantity of Military Stores being collected at Concord, for the avowed Purpose of Supplying a Body of Troops to act in opposition to His Majesty�s Government, I got the Grenadiers and Light Infantry out of Town under the Command of Lieutenant Colonel Smith of the 10th Regiment and Major Pitcairne of the Marines with as much Secrecy as possible, on the 18th at Night and with Orders to destroy the said Military Stores, and Supported them the next Morning by Eight Companys of the 4th the same Number of the 23d, 47th and Marines, under the Command of Lord Percy. It appears from the Firing of Alarm Guns and Ringing of Bells that the March of Lieutenant Colonel Smith was discovered, and he was opposed by a Body of Men within Six Miles of Concord; Some few of whom first began to fire upon his advanced Companys which brought on a Fire from the Troops that dispersed the Body opposed to them; and they proceeded to Concord where they destroyed all the Military Stores they could find, on the Return of the Troops they were attacked from all Quarters where any Cover was to be found, from whence it was practicable to annoy them, and they were so fatigued with their March that it was with Difflculty they could keep out their Flanking Partys to remove the Enemy to a Distance, so that they were at length a good deal pressed.
Pay no attention EVEN to the OFFICIAL press people who I see making statements like Revere was on "covert mission" and didn't want to "warn the enemy with which were at war". Therefore there was no bell-ringing or firing of shots. Now there's an IMBECILE. We were at war?

Once Adams was warned, the mission became to assemble the militia and ringing bells was part of that.. Note that Revere was detained by the British regulars right up until the encounter on the Green.

If you REALLY want to get technical, we were not yet at war -- therefore he WAS warning the British.. But hey, she just got sloppy without a script, without a plan, without a staff, without a teleprompter.. So BELITTLE her for that. She got the history part correct....


Can we at least play fair now?

IDIOTS??

YOU BETCHA!

JonL 06-03-2011 04:09 PM

She is extremely inarticulate. That's not a good quality for someone who aspires to be taken seriously on the world stage. The fact that so many people think that being "folksy" and inarticulate is acceptable for an aspiring leader is a sad commentary on the dumbing down of society. We shouldn't want our leaders to be "just like us" and "regular folks." We should want our leaders to be the best and brightest. OF COURSE they should understand and be able to think like, and empathize with "regular folks," but they should also possess levels of intelligence, insightfulness, understanding of other cultures and viewpoints, worldliness, and a diversity of life experience well beyond that of most "regular folks." That's part of what makes them "leaders" and not just part of the herd. Charisma counts too, and I'll give Palin that. She's charismatic. But beyond that she's... well, I'll ask those of you who support her to tell us what she's got behind the charisma and why she should be taken seriously as a potential leader.

flacaltenn 06-03-2011 04:16 PM

Absolutely JonL:

It drives the elite politcal correspondents BONKERS! You are correct. People who don't read scripts or teleprompters AND CAN'T STOP BABBLING more often than not appear inarticulate. I just don't want to sit around and watch a lynching -- that's all.

There's just a backlog of folksy types that are tired of slick packaging and armies of writers and staff. But the BABBLING is a definate turn-off for me.. (maybe because I'm familiar with that nasty trait)

finnbow 06-03-2011 04:38 PM

Maybe $arah is trying to one-up her look-a-like Bachmann who thought the battles of Lexington and Concord were fought in New Hampshire. At least she got the state right.

noonereal 06-03-2011 08:01 PM

flac

sarah is a moron

this is the long and the short of it

best regards

BlueStreak 06-03-2011 11:36 PM

"I am to acquaint your Lordship that having received Intelligence of a large Quantity of Military Stores being collected at Concord, for the avowed Purpose of Supplying a Body of Troops to act in opposition to His Majesty�s Government, I got the Grenadiers and Light Infantry out of Town under the Command of Lieutenant Colonel Smith of the 10th Regiment and Major Pitcairne of the Marines with as much Secrecy as possible, on the 18th at Night and with Orders to destroy the said Military Stores, and Supported them the next Morning by Eight Companys of the 4th the same Number of the 23d, 47th and Marines, under the Command of Lord Percy. It appears from the Firing of Alarm Guns and Ringing of Bells that the March of Lieutenant Colonel Smith was discovered, and he was opposed by a Body of Men within Six Miles of Concord; Some few of whom first began to fire upon his advanced Companys which brought on a Fire from the Troops that dispersed the Body opposed to them; and they proceeded to Concord where they destroyed all the Military Stores they could find, on the Return of the Troops they were attacked from all Quarters where any Cover was to be found, from whence it was practicable to annoy them, and they were so fatigued with their March that it was with Difflculty they could keep out their Flanking Partys to remove the Enemy to a Distance, so that they were at length a good deal pressed. "

Yeah, no prepared speech or teleprompters..........But I really don't see how that ditz could be expected to write the above quote in it's entirety, ON HER FRIGGIN' PALMS, either.:rolleyes:

She is an imbecile, Dude. A total Suzy Creamcheese if there ever was one. Nooner is right about that.

Dave

merrylander 06-04-2011 07:17 AM

Ay Dios Mio, are we still discussing that trailer trash?

Zeke 06-04-2011 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 64426)
Ay Dios Mio, are we still discussing that trailer trash?

I admit to finding her generally attractive but that's not how I determine whom to vote for. :D

BlueStreak 06-04-2011 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonL (Post 64408)
She is extremely inarticulate. That's not a good quality for someone who aspires to be taken seriously on the world stage. The fact that so many people think that being "folksy" and inarticulate is acceptable for an aspiring leader is a sad commentary on the dumbing down of society. We shouldn't want our leaders to be "just like us" and "regular folks." We should want our leaders to be the best and brightest. OF COURSE they should understand and be able to think like, and empathize with "regular folks," but they should also possess levels of intelligence, insightfulness, understanding of other cultures and viewpoints, worldliness, and a diversity of life experience well beyond that of most "regular folks." That's part of what makes them "leaders" and not just part of the herd. Charisma counts too, and I'll give Palin that. She's charismatic. But beyond that she's... well, I'll ask those of you who support her to tell us what she's got behind the charisma and why she should be taken seriously as a potential leader.

Nothing. As I have stated before, on this board; The woman is a political billboard, full of cliches, nebulous patriotic propaganda and slogans. The billboard is large, but thin. And behind it? Nothing but air.

Dave

flacaltenn 06-04-2011 12:39 PM

BlueStreak:

Quote:

Yeah, no prepared speech or teleprompters..........But I really don't see how that ditz could be expected to write the above quote in it's entirety, ON HER FRIGGIN' PALMS, either.

She is an imbecile, Dude. A total Suzy Creamcheese if there ever was one. Nooner is right about that.
If you watch the video of this "gaff", you'll see she has her head down the whole time signing autographs and with the microphones constantly in her face -- she keeps babbling. Doesn't CARE about the quality of the delivery. WITHOUT the babbling, on prepared remarks, she does better than Biden..

I reserve the imbecile or moron status to those who make mistakes of SUBSTANCE or policy. (Like Cynthia McKinney this week in Libya PRAISING the socialist totalitarian govt of Khaddafy)

And more often than not -- the press ends up looking silly for dinging her on facts and substance where THEY display a lack of understanding --- EXACTLY like this incident where it turns out Palin was inarticulate, but factually solid..

I know that somewhere in history, B'rer Rabbit and Uncle Remus became "Verboten". But the story of the "tar baby" fits here so well. How PERFECT a psych op is this!! B'rer rabbit (the REPs) construct the perfect meaningless inanimate object (Palin) that exploits the vainness of the media and the animosity of the left (that would be Mr. Fox kiddies). They beat themselves up til exhaustion because they just have to destroy it.. And come out looking liking psychopaths because of all the screaming and contortions involved in the attacks..

noonereal 06-04-2011 01:14 PM

flac

the woman does not know anything of substance

this is the difference between her and Biden

a gaff is one thing, stupidity and an absence of intellectually curiosity is another

flacaltenn 06-04-2011 01:25 PM

Well, b'rer wabbit, let's wait til the NEXT punch you take at her and see if you can prove any of that!

Also realize that a tar baby is incapable of actually provoking anyone except by it's mere appearance and existence..

Note: I just committed a factual error.. :eek: I expect to get taken to pieces by the press corps any minute now..
Seems like I got the Fox and Rabbit mixed up in this tale. It's the FOX (the REPs, that makes MUCH more sense eh?) that uses b'rer rabbit's vanity and temper to trap him on the tar baby.. So it's b'rer rabbit that says to the tar baby,

"'I'm gwine ter larn you how ter talk ter 'spectubble folks ef hit's de las' ack,' sez Brer Rabbit, sezee. 'Ef you don't take off dat hat en tell me howdy, I'm gwine ter bus' you wide open,' sezee.

Yup, if you don't talk correctly with us RESPECTABLE folks, we'll bust you wide open..

whell 06-04-2011 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 64442)
flac

the women does not know anything of substance

this is the difference between her and Biden

a gaff is one thing, stupidity and an absence of intellectually curiosity is another

Like you posses any objectivity in you analysis or conclusion...:cool:

BlueStreak 06-04-2011 02:19 PM

Here ya go,

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-col...=synd_facebook

It would seem as though Sarah has taught her children the art of being conservative well; The rich white guy gets all of the credit, all of the time. Never mind the armies of people behind him who did all of his work for him for a pittance, (Or no pay at all.), they don't count.

I love Colbert.

Dave

BlueStreak 06-04-2011 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flacaltenn (Post 64443)
Well, b'rer wabbit, let's wait til the NEXT punch you take at her and see if you can prove any of that!

Also realize that a tar baby is incapable of actually provoking anyone except by it's mere appearance and existence..

Note: I just committed a factual error.. :eek: I expect to get taken to pieces by the press corps any minute now..
Seems like I got the Fox and Rabbit mixed up in this tale. It's the FOX (the REPs, that makes MUCH more sense eh?) that uses b'rer rabbit's vanity and temper to trap him on the tar baby.. So it's b'rer rabbit that says to the tar baby,

"'I'm gwine ter larn you how ter talk ter 'spectubble folks ef hit's de las' ack,' sez Brer Rabbit, sezee. 'Ef you don't take off dat hat en tell me howdy, I'm gwine ter bus' you wide open,' sezee.

Yup, if you don't talk correctly with us RESPECTABLE folks, we'll bust you wide open..

No, not really. Because the truth of it is that this babbling fool and her popularity with the right wing base speaks volumes about their mentality.....That of a wide-eyed fairy tale believing six year old.

So McKinney is an idiot as well. How does that change anything?

Dave

merrylander 06-04-2011 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flacaltenn (Post 64443)
Yup, if you don't talk correctly with us RESPECTABLE folks, we'll bust you wide open..

You and what effing army?:p

noonereal 06-04-2011 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flacaltenn (Post 64443)
Well, b'rer wabbit, let's wait til the NEXT punch you take at her and see if you can prove any of that!

Also realize that a tar baby is incapable of actually provoking anyone except by it's mere appearance and existence..

Note: I just committed a factual error.. :eek: I expect to get taken to pieces by the press corps any minute now..
Seems like I got the Fox and Rabbit mixed up in this tale. It's the FOX (the REPs, that makes MUCH more sense eh?) that uses b'rer rabbit's vanity and temper to trap him on the tar baby.. So it's b'rer rabbit that says to the tar baby,

"'I'm gwine ter larn you how ter talk ter 'spectubble folks ef hit's de las' ack,' sez Brer Rabbit, sezee. 'Ef you don't take off dat hat en tell me howdy, I'm gwine ter bus' you wide open,' sezee.

Yup, if you don't talk correctly with us RESPECTABLE folks, we'll bust you wide open..

you do "get" that sarah is a dolt don't you?

noonereal 06-04-2011 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 64445)
Like you posses any objectivity in you analysis or conclusion...:cool:

I don't parrot either party nor organization political or otherwise as you do the GOP dogma. So yeah I am way more objective then you.

I heard poor Piper was upset with the media for ruining her vacation. When she grows up maybe she will understand that Mom is the one who stole her vacation and childhood.

or maybe she'll just be like mom and blame others

bhunter 06-04-2011 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonL (Post 64408)
She is extremely inarticulate. That's not a good quality for someone who aspires to be taken seriously on the world stage. The fact that so many people think that being "folksy" and inarticulate is acceptable for an aspiring leader is a sad commentary on the dumbing down of society. We shouldn't want our leaders to be "just like us" and "regular folks." We should want our leaders to be the best and brightest. OF COURSE they should understand and be able to think like, and empathize with "regular folks," but they should also possess levels of intelligence, insightfulness, understanding of other cultures and viewpoints, worldliness, and a diversity of life experience well beyond that of most "regular folks." That's part of what makes them "leaders" and not just part of the herd. Charisma counts too, and I'll give Palin that. She's charismatic. But beyond that she's... well, I'll ask those of you who support her to tell us what she's got behind the charisma and why she should be taken seriously as a potential leader.

I guess you are not a Biden fan. Come to think of it, the present white house occupant lacks in the diverse experience and worldly knowledge department. How do we ascertain someone's supposed superiority? Academic records? Heroism under fire? Rhetorical ability?

JonL 06-04-2011 07:52 PM

Biden isn't terribly articulate either, and I think that fact DOES make him less attractive as a leader. He also certainly commits his share of gaffes. However, he undeniably has a much greater grasp of world and national affairs than does Ms. Palin.

How do we ascertain who might be good leaders? The three items you mentioned are all a part. I disagree with your assertion about what Obama lacks. He has an impressive academic background with a specialty in constitutional law. He has political and life experience including both grass-roots, neighborhood level politics AND as a United States senator. Was he as experienced going into the presidency as most others? No. But he sure isn't a simpleton quitter and self-serving opportunist like Palin.

flacaltenn 06-04-2011 09:56 PM

All y'all (that's plural)

I get the part where Palin is too lightweight to be Prez.. I do.. But I don't think the left gets it.. BlueStreak points out that she mirrors the general gullibility of the right. That MAY BE -- if she runs and gets traction in that party. But she also is playing agitator of left to the hilt. EVERYTHING she does is calculated to draw the left into the tar baby. Especially the media. Because they show THEIR ignorance everytime they attack her on manufactured or faulty grounds. Like this brief Paul Revere dust-up.. I actually went over to ABC news to pummel some shithead reporter who brought up this "no bells" deal and made a statement to the effect that "bells would have warned the enemy with which we were at war". They just lose their minds, their dignity, and professionalism when it comes to this woman..

I think the Biden/Palin debate was draw with a slight edge to Biden because of her evasiveness. But declarations from Biden that "Iraq should now be partitioned into 3 countries" are FAR more dangerous than seeing Russia from the deck at home. I can even see Obama sweating every time this guy gets near a microphone.

Somewhere, I just got tired of this NOT being a fair fight. Yeah Dave, Colbert took a valid shot. That's why he's got my respect. But the press is lazy, ignorant, and foolish and I'm not goin' to give THEM a pass either when the punch is below the belt.. And the partisian pile-on where when they are corrected about facts and history -- then go off and criticize her PERSONAL life and parenting skills. You can have that debate if you must. I'm only refereeing the game, not doing the locker room stuff..

whell 06-04-2011 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 64457)
I don't parrot either party nor organization political or otherwise as you do the GOP dogma. So yeah I am way more objective then you.

Don't see yourself short, noone. You speak socialist better than anyone I know. :D

Dondilion 06-04-2011 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 64447)

So McKinney is an idiot as well. How does that change anything?

Dave

Also she (McKinney) is not on the presidential hustle.
My personal assessment is that Palin takes her reality stardom seriously and this presidentitial "trip" is to create noise.... gaffs and all.

BlueStreak 06-05-2011 10:58 AM

"BlueStreak points out that she mirrors the general gullibility of the right." Thank You.

Dave

noonereal 06-05-2011 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 64469)
Don't see yourself short, noone. You speak socialist better than anyone I know. :D

thanks, I do understand how unbridled capitalism is for the masses

maybe you can learn too? :)

noonereal 06-05-2011 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flacaltenn (Post 64467)
All y'all (that's plural)

I get the part where Palin is too lightweight to be Prez.. I do.. But I don't think the left gets it.. BlueStreak points out that she mirrors the general gullibility of the right. That MAY BE -- if she runs and gets traction in that party. But she also is playing agitator of left to the hilt. EVERYTHING she does is calculated to draw the left into the tar baby. Especially the media. Because they show THEIR ignorance everytime they attack her on manufactured or faulty grounds. Like this brief Paul Revere dust-up.. I actually went over to ABC news to pummel some shithead reporter who brought up this "no bells" deal and made a statement to the effect that "bells would have warned the enemy with which we were at war". They just lose their minds, their dignity, and professionalism when it comes to this woman..

I think the Biden/Palin debate was draw with a slight edge to Biden because of her evasiveness. But declarations from Biden that "Iraq should now be partitioned into 3 countries" are FAR more dangerous than seeing Russia from the deck at home. I can even see Obama sweating every time this guy gets near a microphone.

Somewhere, I just got tired of this NOT being a fair fight. Yeah Dave, Colbert took a valid shot. That's why he's got my respect. But the press is lazy, ignorant, and foolish and I'm not goin' to give THEM a pass either when the punch is below the belt.. And the partisian pile-on where when they are corrected about facts and history -- then go off and criticize her PERSONAL life and parenting skills. You can have that debate if you must. I'm only refereeing the game, not doing the locker room stuff..

Palin is a moron and does nothing in a calculated manner that makes any sense at all

she is governed by emotion and impulse and is clearly powerless over these characteristics

to make matters worse she is vengeful in a childlike petty manner and has a deep set need to not take personal responsibility

the women, in addition to being a moron is repulsive

whell 06-05-2011 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 64485)
Palin is a moron and does nothing in a calculated manner that makes any sense at all

she is governed by emotion and impulse and is clearly powerless over these characteristics

to make matters worse she is vengeful in a childlike petty manner and has a deep set need to not take personal responsibility

the women, in addition to being a moron is repulsive

...and you've met her personally and spoken to her at length, so you're obviously well qualified to render such judgement...:rolleyes:

BlueStreak 06-05-2011 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 64487)
...and you've met her personally and spoken to her at length, so you're obviously well qualified to render such judgement...:rolleyes:

No need. One only needs to possess eyeballs and a functioning set of ears. That, and a mind capable of thinking beyond Republican = Good.

Dave

noonereal 06-05-2011 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 64487)
...and you've met her personally and spoken to her at length, so you're obviously well qualified to render such judgement...:rolleyes:

whell, face it, the women is a moron

how could it be more obvious

flacaltenn 06-05-2011 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 64494)
whell, face it, the women is a moron
how could it be more obvious

She serves an important purpose. And that is to draw out the morons in the left wing. To wit -- I want to share a reply I got when I went to pummel the shithead journalist over at ABC. I posted that after-battle account of General Gage (that's here somewhere) and got THIS REPLY from one of the very elite , most informed, Palin Attack Force..

Quote:

......, note that you are using the letter of a British soldier, writing AFTER the battle , in an attempt to explain WHY there ever WAS a battle in the first place! Keep in mind he was also trying to COVER his own butt as well. Also keep in mind that he had NO desire to let his superiors know that Revere had gotten PAST their lines and was able to warn a substantial part of the local militia, right under their noses! It's kind of funny and kind of sad that you have to resort to using the letters of the opposition (read: British) to try to prop up Mrs. Palin.
This happened while another mighty Leftist was quoting "The Midnight Ride of Paul Revere" poem as THO -- it was a definitive and exhaustive account of the event to refute any historical docs that were produced by anyone...

PLEASE SARAH --- don't drop the tar baby role. You've got 'em almost smothered now..:D

PS: We have quality representation here for the Palin Attack Squad. NoOneReal would NEVER accuse me of siding with the British just to "prop up Mrs. Palin" {Yowling with laughter}

noonereal 06-05-2011 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flacaltenn (Post 64500)
She serves an important purpose. And that is to draw out the morons in the left wing. To wit -- I want to share a reply I got when I went to pummel the shithead journalist over at ABC. I posted that after-battle account of General Gage (that's here somewhere) and got THIS REPLY from one of the very elite , most informed, Palin Attack Force..



This happened while another mighty Leftist was quoting "The Midnight Ride of Paul Revere" poem as THO -- it was a definitive and exhaustive account of the event to refute any historical docs that were produced by anyone...

PLEASE SARAH --- don't drop the tar baby role. You've got 'em almost smothered now..:D

PS: We have quality representation here for the Palin Attack Squad. NoOneReal would NEVER accuse me of siding with the British just to "prop up Mrs. Palin" {Yowling with laughter}

what don't you get?

Palin is an idiot and all you are doing is lowing yourself by finding justification for her.

painter 06-05-2011 10:55 PM

Many of you took advantage of editing your posts on Palin. Perhaps if she had the chance...she might do the same...just saying...

BlueStreak 06-05-2011 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by painter (Post 64521)
Many of you took advantage of editing your posts on Palin. Perhaps if she had the chance...she might do the same...just saying...

Not enough room on her palms for editing.:p

Dave

JonL 06-06-2011 12:13 AM

The press absolutely loves Palin. It has nothing to do with political bias. She's the trainwreck that keeps on giving. They'd do the same to a liberal figure as well. There was plenty of debasing and snickering reporting going on about Clinton and Monica, or NY's own Spitzer. A juicy story is better than politics any day. Palin is a juicy story AND politics all rolled together.

And make no mistake. Palin absolutely loves the press. Sure, she'd love positive press, but she loves negative press even more because it gives her a chance to play the victim, to blame the east coast liberal media elite and rally her supporters. It's a nice symbiotic relationship.


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