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Zeke 05-01-2011 09:55 PM

Osama Bin Laden is DEAD.
 
Query: does it change anything?

finnbow 05-01-2011 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 61546)
Query: does it change anything?

Combined with the ongoing Arab Spring, perhaps so. Congrats to the hard working fellas in Afghanistan/Pakistan.

From a political POV, will the GOP maintain their mantle as the party of national security (which I always thought was bogus)?

Zeke 05-01-2011 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 61547)
From a political POV, will the GOP maintain their mantle as the party of national security (which I always thought was bogus)?

It's difficult to spread fear without a bogeyman... :D

That said, beyond psychologically, the question can very well be asked if we are actually any "safer" now than we were a week ago when this -- apparently -- occurred.

Oh yeah, Obama just won reelection in a landslide.

finnbow 05-01-2011 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 61548)
It's difficult to spread fear without a bogeyman... :D

That said, beyond psychologically, the question can very well be asked if we are actually any "safer" now than we were a week ago when this -- apparently -- occurred.

Oh yeah, Obama just won reelection in a landslide.

It'll be interesting to hear the Right Wing trying to give credit to Dubya for this or otherwise diminish it. Really.:rolleyes:

Zeke 05-01-2011 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 61549)
It'll be interesting to hear the Right Wing trying to give credit to Dubya for this. Really.:rolleyes:

Obama: "Here's my birth certificate. Here's Osama Bin Laden's head. How do you like me now?" :D

CarlV 05-01-2011 10:18 PM

The Bin Laden family is quite powerful and very rich, so the money and influence is gone. :)
Other than that they will still teach gullible children the wonderful art of suicide bombing I'm sure.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/am...132275789.html


Carl

finnbow 05-01-2011 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 61550)
Obama: "Here's my birth certificate. Here's Osama Bin Laden's head. How do you like me now?" :D

He's still a black man. The crazies will remain crazy. Of that, I am sure.

BlueStreak 05-01-2011 10:57 PM

Woot!!!!!!!!! Woot!!!!!!!!!! Yeeeeeeehhhhaaaaaawwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:p:D:);)

Where are those dancing bananas when we need them?

Dave

bhunter 05-01-2011 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 61546)
Query: does it change anything?

Not really. There are any number of people willing and capable of replacing OBL. I would suspect some backlash from his death. There's nothing like a martyr to churn the terrorist pot.

BlueStreak 05-01-2011 11:04 PM

Oh, would you guys just shut the hell up and be happy for once?
Good Lord!!!
:rolleyes:

Dave

d-ray657 05-01-2011 11:07 PM

Very well done statement by the President. He made political points (i.e. Unity) without otherwise being overtly political. He did a good job creating the context for what was done, probably, in part, to emphasize the importance of the event. I don't think he really hyped it, however, and it was not necessary. Obama has been Public Enemy No. 1 for quite some time.

For some reason Obama did not beat his chest and say "I am very proud of myself.":rolleyes: He did give significant credit to the military and particularly to the anti-terrorist operatives. Interesting that he noted Leon Panetta's involvement. Think the rails are greased for his confirmation as Sec'y of Defense?

It was good to hear that President Bush issued a very statesman-like message of congratulations about the event.

How well is Trump's tough guy credibility gonna sell now. Will he somehow try to take credit. I think he has had about as tough a week as any political candidate. His birther issue is yanked out from under him; he gets publicly humiliated at the Correspondents Dinner, and now the target of Trump's ambition has just scored a major accomplishment.

It's hard to take a lot of pride in the death of any human, but I will have to go along with the widower of a 9/11 victim "A huge source of evil is no longer in this world." I suppose all of us can take some pride in that.

Regards,

D-Ray

finnbow 05-01-2011 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 61558)
Very well done statement by the President. He made political points (i.e. Unity) without otherwise being overtly political. He did a good job creating the context for what was done, probably, in part, to emphasize the importance of the event. I don't think he really hyped it, however, and it was not necessary.

Hid did show some common sense and dignity by not showing up in front of a "Mission Accomplished" banner sporting a codpiece.:eek:

I have to wonder what kind of theatrics Dubya would have used for this occasion.

d-ray657 05-01-2011 11:20 PM

My son called me to clue me in. He said that they broke into Celebrity Apprentice to announce it.:rolleyes: Can't help but enjoy the irony of that.:cool:

Regards,

D-Ray

BlueStreak 05-01-2011 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 61560)
My son called me to clue me in. He said that they broke into Celebrity Apprentice to announce it.:rolleyes: Can't help but enjoy the irony of that.:cool:

Regards,

D-Ray

That's great! Screw Trump, I hope his head exploded.:p

"Hi Ho, the merry-o, wipe your eyes, get out of bed, Hi-Ho Bin Laden is dead!!"

Dave

Fast_Eddie 05-02-2011 12:20 AM

http://i.imgur.com/KDssc.jpg

d-ray657 05-02-2011 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie (Post 61562)

Dude, that is fast!!!

Regards,

D-Ray

Fast_Eddie 05-02-2011 12:35 AM

Found on Facebook. Can't take credit for that one.

BlueStreak 05-02-2011 02:07 AM

Here's an thread appropriate blast from the past;

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributor.../13_Laden.html

Enjoy,

Dave

Deczor 05-02-2011 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 61546)
Query: does it change anything?

I couldn't say if it will or won't. I'm pretty sure it's a boost in morale for the US intelligence and armed forces, not to mention the population they work for.

No country is perfect and all have a plethora of other problems that need attending. That said, some good news is always welcome anywhere. It's been a year of bad news and toughness so far, which is one of the reasons I think the royal wedding was so huge. Everyone needs a break from the gloomyness that seems to have been all to present so far in 2011. This gets lumped with that, but is probably more important than the wedding as it was a tougher nut to crack, rather than hearing about a couple that would get married whether they were famous or not.

Osama was a bad man, he's gone now (thanks to you USAians). So, for the moment, we've got something to celebrate. Let's hope further news throughout the year continues to be good for everyone.

Combwork 05-02-2011 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deczor (Post 61566)

Osama was a bad man, he's gone now (thanks to you USAians). So, for the moment, we've got something to celebrate. Let's hope further news throughout the year continues to be good for everyone.

Interesting. His last few taped messages had such blurry image and distorted sound that a number of people claimed he was dead already, and what they were seeing and hearing was a stand in.

When in doubt, sow confusion. Bring on someone who looks like him then claim the West had hit a hospital, or school or something.

Cynical? Me? No, just thinking aloud.

noonereal 05-02-2011 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 61546)
Query: does it change anything?

yes, but i don't understand the celebrations in the streets :confused

merrylander 05-02-2011 07:01 AM

Hell I will raise a glass to that bastard's death, I hope no fish die because of him being dumped in the ocean.

JCricket 05-02-2011 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 61558)
Very well done statement by the President. He made political points (i.e. Unity) without otherwise being overtly political. He did a good job creating the context for what was done, probably, in part, to emphasize the importance of the event. I don't think he really hyped it, however, and it was not necessary. Obama has been Public Enemy No. 1 for quite some time.

For some reason Obama did not beat his chest and say "I am very proud of myself.":rolleyes: He did give significant credit to the military and particularly to the anti-terrorist operatives. Interesting that he noted Leon Panetta's involvement. Think the rails are greased for his confirmation as Sec'y of Defense?

It was good to hear that President Bush issued a very statesman-like message of congratulations about the event.

How well is Trump's tough guy credibility gonna sell now. Will he somehow try to take credit. I think he has had about as tough a week as any political candidate. His birther issue is yanked out from under him; he gets publicly humiliated at the Correspondents Dinner, and now the target of Trump's ambition has just scored a major accomplishment.

It's hard to take a lot of pride in the death of any human, but I will have to go along with the widower of a 9/11 victim "A huge source of evil is no longer in this world." I suppose all of us can take some pride in that.Regards,

D-Ray

My feelings too. Sad that we had to kill another person, but I suppose there was no other way to deal with him. The world, for us, will be safer with him gone.

I guess the question now is what is next? Do we continue in afghanistan or IRaq? Do we come home?

Fast_Eddie 05-02-2011 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 61569)
yes, but i don't understand the celebrations in the streets :confused

Why do you hate America? Why are you with the terrorists?

merrylander 05-02-2011 07:42 AM

From the news it seems that the President called both former Presidents Bush and Clinton to give them the news before going public. It was also gratifying to hear Fran (forget her last name) a former Bush appointee declare on the news that President Obama was very strong in taking the decision to send in the Seals and the CIA. As she acknowledged, the final decision had to be his.

Of course the conspiracy freaks are already at work and rumours galore are going the rounds.

JJIII 05-02-2011 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 61569)
yes, but i don't understand the celebrations in the streets :confused

Perhaps in answer to the dancing in the streets when the WTC fell.

merrylander 05-02-2011 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJIII (Post 61577)
Perhaps in answer to the dancing in the streets when the WTC fell.

And let's hope Al Jazeera covers it well.:p

whell 05-02-2011 08:13 AM

Saw this posted on a Yahoo board:

"I was born in Iran and came to America about thirty years ago to get away from the mullahs and their religious government. I passed the test and became a proud American citizen a few years ago. 9/11 was the most tragic day of my life, as it was for any other descent person in the world, American or not. I cried along with my friends and relatives. This is a great day. God Bless America. It gave me everything and gave me a home. Osama Bin Laden came into our beautiful house and tried to turn it into an ugly cave like his. Well my friends. We won. Happy Day to all."

Amen.

whell 05-02-2011 08:27 AM

And...even Phillies fans did the right thing! ;)

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/m...=ESPNHeadlines

noonereal 05-02-2011 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJIII (Post 61577)
Perhaps in answer to the dancing in the streets when the WTC fell.

that is my point

aren't we better than that?

noonereal 05-02-2011 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie (Post 61575)
Why do you hate America? Why are you with the terrorists?

??


not sure what you mean or how to take this

whell 05-02-2011 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 61582)
that is my point

aren't we better than that?

We're human. I think we can cut ourselves a bit of slack on this one.

whell 05-02-2011 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 61583)
??


not sure what you mean or how to take this


I suspect this is Eddie at his ironic, yet cynical, best.

BlueStreak 05-02-2011 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 61569)
yes, but i don't understand the celebrations in the streets :confused

Yes, I suppose we should all be depressed...............:confused:WTF?

finnbow 05-02-2011 08:55 AM

Eric Cantor (R-VA), House Majority Leader:

"I commend President Obama who has followed the vigilance of President Bush in bringing Bin Laden to justice."

What a classless, partisan prick.

To add to this, I heard on Talk Radio this morning some knuckledragger claiming that this would not have been possible without torture at Gitmo. Jeez.

noonereal 05-02-2011 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 61584)
We're human. I think we can cut ourselves a bit of slack on this one.

I am not chastising folks for celebrating but what I see us on TV looks just like the Arabs in Tehran less the head garb.

I remember much to clearly seeing the celebration in Paterson NJ by the Arabs and recall my intense anger and disgust for these people.

I guess that's why I think it best not to act like them. At least for me is it right to simply take humble pride in my country with this victory.

BlueStreak 05-02-2011 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 61582)
that is my point

aren't we better than that?

No. It's a normal human reaction. Better WE have something to celebrate that THEY do.

Dave

noonereal 05-02-2011 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 61586)
Yes, I suppose we should all be depressed...............:confused:WTF?

sorry you can't understand my point

BTW, I think the troops can let off some steam in celebration as they are the ones doing the job.

I don't quite understand why preferring a different response to victory is so upsetting to so many.

BlueStreak 05-02-2011 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 61587)
Eric Cantor (R-VA), House Majority Leader:

"I commend President Obama who has followed the vigilance of President Bush in bringing Bin Laden to justice."

What a classless, partisan prick.

To add to this, I heard on Talk Radio this morning some knuckledragger claiming that this would not have been possible without torture at Gitmo. Jeez.

Yeah, the ever vigilant George Bush;

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)

Dave

merrylander 05-02-2011 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 61587)
Eric Cantor (R-VA), House Majority Leader:

"I commend President Obama who has followed the vigilance of President Bush in bringing Bin Laden to justice."

What a classless, partisan prick.

To add to this, I heard on Talk Radio this morning some knuckledragger claiming that this would not have been possible without torture at Gitmo. Jeez.

I think Zeke got it right, not only is Haley Barbour out of the running but pretty much all of the others are having second thoughts. AMong all the other things people have been bringing up for 2012 none of us ever thought of this.


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