Fox, an overt agenda driven tool of the wealthy
 

I posted this in another thread and some got upset, my apologies.
I do believe this to be true though.
Do you disagree?
I have yet to hear any "NEWS" on Fox that is not critical of any socially responsible program. Have you?
The wealthy do not need these programs to lead a comfortable life, the poor and unfortunate do. I know many think that they are self sufficient but unless you are rich, that likely is not true.

I dont like any of em but I am curious as to which you think is "fair" or fairer

And the CNBC and MSNBCs of the world are pure as the driven snow right? They all are driven by money, it just comes from different places.

Now that you mention it I don't recall, including NPR, any news channels that don't almost have an orgasm whenever some new social program is announced.

Notice I didn't say socially responsible? I don't believe they are responsible for much beyond removing money from my house and putting it in someone else's.

How long can we play the poor and unfortunate class card to steal money via taxes? Until the workers can't stomach anymore and revolt. I don't expect to see the poor and unfortunate on my side of that battle. They're gonna be right behind the politicians that give them their handout.

fair, can't think of any, fairer any of them

The major networks seem to be the best in their "news" casts, It is also hard to find fault in people like Charlie Rose.
Lou Dobbs just hates everyone.
I think we have become so partisan that their are only a handful of programs that honestly report news and events.
oberman maddow beck schultz hannity o'reilly are just tools to be avoided

We are one sociaty, we need to do what is best for that sociaty first, the individual comes second
That being said, it seems to me we are rich enough to redistribute the gross excess.

Why have you such disdain for the poor and unfortunate? I am guessing it is because you think it there own fault that they are poor and unfortunate, correct?

I used to watch Dobbs and for a little while he seemed plausible, then he started bringing in his three "best minds in Politics" yesh sure, Larry, Curly and Moe. Dobbs is busy shilling his books to the fringe.

The other "news" broadcasts beat every event to death, usually trivial crap that affects our lives not a whit.

About the closest thing to reality is Jim Lehrer but there are times when some of the "experts" he calls in leave me shaking my head. I really believe some one from Moody's or Standard & Poor on financial matters, sure. Are not these the smae folks who gave derivatives two and three star ratings?

I like O'Reilly, does that mean I'm rich? Woohoo!

I would think that this means you feel you would benefit from making the rich richer, not that you are rich. This is a popular belief, I am not one who subscribes to that school of thought. No surprise there huh?;)

I think you may be confusing rich with having a job and working hard.

No not at all.

On a side bar, I have found working hard is relative and is no indicator of success, wealth or happiness.

Now I get it!

LOL, somehow I doubt it. :D

OK, I'll play, what is it you "get."

My disdain comes from the constant parading of them by politicians that view them as simply a means to an end. I believe you seem to side with the politicians in that you would know how to better utilize my personal wealth than I ever could. These poor and unfortunate will forever be poor and unfortunate, some due to their own choosing waiting for the man to help them. Guess what, politicians love this as it keeps them feeling needed and in office.

"Now that you mention it I don't recall, including NPR, any news channels that don't almost have an orgasm whenever some new social program is announced. "

When was this? Why is this? (I never listen to NPR.)
Why? Just as much as Fox leans to the right everyone else pretty much leans to the left, especially NPR IMHO. I personally don't believe any of them are on the up and up 100% of the time.

Wish I could figure out the foolish quote thingie :D

While I find this statement pretty much spot on something struck me odd so I pondered it for a minute. Here's my take on it...

I have found that not working hard or at all is relative and is no indicator of being downtrodden, poor, or unhappy.

A rather widely discredited rabble-rouser from a backwater in the middle east about 2000 years ago said that we'd have the poor with us always...

i agree

WE make the rich richer? They have their money and talent to continue to be rich. Not everyone was born with a silver spoon in his or her mouth. Sorry....I'm a Capitalist ALL the way. Three family members DIED to protect our freedom of choice and yours... sir or madam as the case may be. I was just a kid...but when my second cousins body was returned to his home town...My aunt wanted his casket to be open. They were unable to do so because there was so little left of him. It burns the hell out of me...these socialistic attitudes. But he died so you could express that also. :(

First, and most important thank you to your family members and to you for such sacrifice.

As to your post suggesting that our troops are risking all to defend capitalism, that is inaccurate.
Our troops are called on to protect our sociaty, weather we be socialist, capitalist or whatever. We determine what we want our sociaty to be and that is in constant metamorphose.
The sociaty comes first, our arguments are in relation to that. I feel capitalism, in it's pure form is bad for the masses. Frankly, I think you would be hard pressed to make a case for a "Capitalist ALL the way" sociaty that was advantageous to the masses.

I have found that talent is a small ingredient, connections is the key to wealth.
I admit I base this solely on my life's experience and not on academic research, but I am willing to cover most bets.

Bottom right corner, the red lozenge marked Quote.

He also suggested that we are our brother's keeper, and something else to the effect that inasmuch as we cared for others we cared for Him. But what do I know, we are just small c christians, can't be bothered with organized religion.

Do not thank my family for a sacrifice their sons made! I do not know where that statement came from...it's said alot lately. IMO its a cover up by people who have to say something when they walk on a soldiers grave...which in my opinion you did with your socialistic attitudes and opinions on why our soldiers are or are not fighting for FREEDOM. Yes...you do manage to cause alot of discontent. Your views just make us who truly believe in America and the past...stonger. Thank YOU for that. :D

It's my American as much as yours, seems you are having a hard time dealing with that. Counseling maybe?:rolleyes:

Your closing line is very Palin like, I think we can blame the right wing hate media for this but you still need to take some personal responsibility. How or why any individual thinks that they hold the key to truth as it relates to politics, religion or anything else has always eluded me. Why do you think if my views are different than yours, I am not American? Can you rationally answer?

I think your opinion needs some major reevaluation.

I am sure there are message boards that are 100% right wing hate that you will not be upset by a differing view. Frankly you should be happy here as I am pretty much alone here on the left and I am certainly not far left, especially on foreign policy and defense.

It's OK, we'll steer you to the right eventually :D

I just can't figure out how to multiple quote so I can answer. Don't matter though really, you all get what I'm saying mostly.

LOL, that is where I came from :eek:

Bush boy turned me away, although I liked his old man.
(You'll be glad to know I hated Clinton ;))

Everything is relative. Fox appears to be right wing only because ABC, NBC, & CBS are to the left of them. Shrewd marketing on Fox's part. Right wing, hardly.

They all pretty much report the same thing every night. And if Fox is a tool of the wealthy, so are the others.

"The man who reads nothing at all is better informed than the man who reads nothing but newspapers." Thomas Jefferson

Can only imagine what Tom would think of our 24 hr news channels.

Chas

So you believe Fox is fair and balanced?

As much as the rest of them. Certainly no worse.

Chas

That does surprise me.
Thinking about it though, MSNBC had become the Fox opposite except for two shows so I can understand why you say that.
CNN is fairly even handed but learns left.

Thinking out loud here, maddow, schultz and oberman are cleraly following a left wing idiot script but Beck, hannity and Van Susteren are fair and balanced? :confused:
Hard for me to see I admit.

I've watched a little of Beck, very little actually. Sometimes he makes a point or two, but he's a little too breathless to suit me. I can't set through the other two. I watch O'Rielly on occasions, since he's despised by both the far right and the far left, I figure that puts him in the middle of the road somewhere. But he tends to talk over his guests, and can be overbearing at times.

Actually, I don't watch many talking head shows, they wear me out. I used to like Brett Humes show, but haven't watched it since he's been replaced.

One of the funniest things I've ever seen was O'Rielly explaining to Hume how Operation Chaos worked (they're trying to remove the strongest candidate in the primaries, Brett). Brett had a look on his face like he was thinking "OMG, I can't believe that we're discussing something this elementary as though it's a brilliant new tactic". Might have been the reason he retired.

During the 6:00 news, they all report the same stories. The talking head shows are entertainment. In this sense, they're all about the same.

Chas

FOX is owned by Rupert Murdoch - case closed.

I think Gretta and Bill are as close to fair and balanced as you are going to get. Hannity and Beck are way right, but make no bones about it. I try to watch a little MSNBC just to see if folks are figuring out Obama yet, but it's tough. Seems like every time I turn it on, it's that dikey looking chick with the bad case of penis envy. She actually makes me shudder sometimes. Can you imagine waking up with her every morning. I think I'd develope a taste for gun oil.:D

come on be honest, you find her "appealing" :D

Gun oil, huh. I always said they were causing me a definite physical condition...my trigger finger been "twitchin".

Chas

OK, you got me. I've always dreamed of a menajahtwa with her and Palin.:p

I take it that you have "Lusted in my heart". Unlike Mr. Peanut, I've more than "lusted" a time or two, bare assed naked to boot.

But I no longer conduct myself in such a manner.

Chas

I knew it! :D

Geez, guess I am going to have to watch these networks just once to see what I have been missing. All I have seen to date is Ann Coulter and Lucretia Borgia on CNN.

:eek:

My sympathies