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finnbow 02-17-2011 09:21 PM

Murdoch's brand of journalism
 
Rupert Murdoch's Newcorp (owner of Fox News) launched it's new iPad app called "The Daily." The new editor-in-chief, in a leaked memo, tells his reporters that "Egypt is Over" and to concentrate on news stories along the lines of "the oldest dog in America or the richest man in South Dakota."

http://daringminds.com/new/editor-of...rica%E2%80%99/

H.L. Mencken was certainly right. It seems the Murdoch doesn't want to publish anything beyond the intellectual capacity of his readers.

Charles 02-18-2011 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 54904)
Rupert Murdoch's Newcorp (owner of Fox News) launched it's new iPad app called "The Daily." The new editor-in-chief, in a leaked memo, tells his reporters that "Egypt is Over" and to concentrate on news stories along the lines of "the oldest dog in America or the richest man in South Dakota."

http://daringminds.com/new/editor-of...rica%E2%80%99/

H.L. Mencken was certainly right. It seems the Murdoch doesn't want to publish anything beyond the intellectual capacity of his readers.

Finn, did you actually read the article?

Chas

merrylander 02-18-2011 07:26 AM

Well it took bloody forever to load but it is about what I would expect from News Corp. In simple English he was saying dig me up some dirt so we can force the Whitehouse press secretary to download our crap.

finnbow 02-18-2011 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Charles (Post 54920)
Finn, did you actually read the article?

Chas

Yep. Did you?

Fast_Eddie 02-18-2011 10:19 AM

Meh. It's not so bad. He told them to get out and enterprise some stories. Taking the oldest dog thing out of context is a little misleading.

"We need to get out there and start finding more compelling stories from around the country – not just scraping the web and the wires, but getting out on the ground and reporting...

Force the new White House press secretary to download The Daily for the first time because everyone at the gaggle is asking about a story we broke."

Sounds like he's doing his job and pushing his folks to work hard to make a name for their product. Nothing wrong with that.

If you want unbiased journalism, stop looking to advertising supported products. Not too far from looking for news on the back of a cereal box. Just like Post Cereal, the "Post" in most towns will print anything that helps them move more product.

Charles 02-18-2011 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 54943)
Yep. Did you?

As a matter of fact I did, and came to the same conclusions as Ed.

Chas

Fast_Eddie 02-18-2011 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Charles (Post 54961)
As a matter of fact I did, and came to the same conclusions as Ed.

Chas

I hate when you do that.

finnbow 02-18-2011 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Charles (Post 54961)
As a matter of fact I did, and came to the same conclusions as Ed.

Chas

Fair enough, Chas. I just think the "dumbing down" of the news is not particularly helpful in a system of government that depends on a well informed electorate (or so said Thomas Jefferson).

I guess we're way past that though.:(

Fast_Eddie 02-18-2011 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 54964)
Fair enough, Chas. I just think the "dumbing down" of the news is not particularly helpful in a system of government that depends on a well informed electorate (or so said Thomas Jefferson).

I guess we're way past that though.:(

I agree with you there. We need protection from purely capitalistic enterprise in important areas. I happen to believe journalism is one of those areas. But the Republicans are working hard right now to cut what little funding Public Broadcasting gets. Yeah. That'll fix that deficit right up.

merrylander 02-18-2011 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie (Post 54968)
I agree with you there. We need protection from purely capitalistic enterprise in important areas. I happen to believe journalism is one of those areas. But the Republicans are working hard right now to cut what little funding Public Broadcasting gets. Yeah. That'll fix that deficit right up.

I let all my Congress people know what I thought of that idea, bunch of damn phillistines.:rolleyes:

I informed them that the GOP was only following orders from their master, Rupert

Charles 02-18-2011 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 54964)
Fair enough, Chas. I just think the "dumbing down" of the news is not particularly helpful in a system of government that depends on a well informed electorate (or so said Thomas Jefferson).

I guess we're way past that though.:(

Reading that article, I was of the impression that Faux told their reporters to get off of their asses and go out and find a story.

Of course, if anyone is dumb enough to come back with his own bone, he'll wind up being marginalized by the rest of the lazy bastards simply because he's making them look bad.

Chas

finnbow 02-18-2011 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles (Post 55034)
Reading that article, I was of the impression that Faux told their reporters to get off of their asses and go out and find a story.

Of course, if anyone is dumb enough to come back with his own bone, he'll wind up being marginalized by the rest of the lazy bastards simply because he's making them look bad.

Chas

I guess what caught my attention is the editor-in-chief's notion that "Egypt is over" (that would indeed be news if it were true) and the need to focus on fluff instead (e.g., America's oldest dog).

I'm not really concerned about this specific iPad app, but thought I'd throw it up here as a gratuitous slap at Faux and a commentary on the sad state of news in this country. OTOH, this is a paid app, meaning if people think it's worth money to have Murdoch feed them this drivel, so be it.

Fast_Eddie 02-18-2011 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 55036)
I guess what caught my attention is the editor-in-chief's notion that "Egypt is over" (that would indeed be news if it were true) and the need to focus on fluff instead (e.g., America's oldest dog).

I know what you mean, I'm just looking at it differently.

I listen to an awesome radio show in the car in the morning. It's called "The Takeaway". I sent them a letter to tell them what a great job they did covering Egypt. They really explained what was going on, who the players were, what was really happening, how it all worked and what might happen next.

CNN, by comparison, pretty much said "Look, there's a tank! That guy has a rock! Oh, he threw it! That guy got hit in the head! Sure looks dangerous out there- hey, let's get a camera and go for a walk!" People like to see the pictures of a crowd in the streets. Once it all kinda calms down and there's no tank to shoot, or guy with a gash in his head, people don't so much care. Evidence PBS. People could watch Charlie Rose or The Newshour, but by and large, they do not. And broadcasting is a business. Doesn't take a brain surgen to say "hey, we might should get some more stuff to get folks to tune in or we'll lose our jobs".

Great journalism is great, but usually not real profitable. News theatre is a lot more profitable. And that means finding real life controversy. No controversy, no story. Overt controversy ended in Egypt - Egypt is over. Where's that cute dog picture!? But it is what it is and pretends to be nothing else. As soon as you see a paid ad, you know you’re looking at a for-profit product, not an objective news outlet. In this country, that seems to be what people want. They chose it over more objective coverage every day. In other countries they do it differently. But we have the choice and we get what we want.

Charles 02-18-2011 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie (Post 55045)
I know what you mean, I'm just looking at it differently.

I listen to an awesome radio show in the car in the morning. It's called "The Takeaway". I sent them a letter to tell them what a great job they did covering Egypt. They really explained what was going on, who the players were, what was really happening, how it all worked and what might happen next.

CNN, by comparison, pretty much said "Look, there's a tank! That guy has a rock! Oh, he threw it! That guy got hit in the head! Sure looks dangerous out there- hey, let's get a camera and go for a walk!" People like to see the pictures of a crowd in the streets. Once it all kinda calms down and there's no tank to shoot, or guy with a gash in his head, people don't so much care. Evidence PBS. People could watch Charlie Rose or The Newshour, but by and large, they do not. And broadcasting is a business. Doesn't take a brain surgen to say "hey, we might should get some more stuff to get folks to tune in or we'll lose our jobs".

Great journalism is great, but usually not real profitable. News theatre is a lot more profitable. And that means finding real life controversy. No controversy, no story. Overt controversy ended in Egypt - Egypt is over. Where's that cute dog picture!? But it is what it is and pretends to be nothing else. As soon as you see a paid ad, you know you’re looking at a for-profit product, not an objective news outlet. In this country, that seems to be what people want. They chose it over more objective coverage every day. In other countries they do it differently. But we have the choice and we get what we want.

Stratfor's been sending out a lot of newsletters on Egypt, and they show a considerable amount of insight on the subject.

If I turn on the 6:00 news I can't help but wonder if they're even talking about the same thing.

Can't believe Panetta came out and said he was getting his information from CNN (thanks Finn). If I were going to lie about what I knew, I'd come up with a better lie than that.

Scary thing is, he may have been telling the truth.

Chas

finnbow 02-18-2011 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles (Post 55049)
Can't believe Panetta came out and said he was getting his information from CNN (thanks Finn). If I were going to lie about what I knew, I'd come up with a better lie than that.

Scary thing is, he may have been telling the truth.

Chas

The sad thing is that despite its lousy coverage (described perfectly by Ed), CNN has more of a clue than the CIA what's going on in the Arab world.

merrylander 02-19-2011 07:39 AM

Like I wrote earlier - central intelligence is an oxymoron.

d-ray657 02-22-2011 12:35 PM

I heard on the radio yesterday that Murdoch's London Times has made its on-line edition subscription only - about $16 per month. It's readership has dropped by 98%. He also charges for the Wall Street Urinal. If only he would make Fox News pay per view, the world would be a better place.

Regards,

D-Ray


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