Egypt has been primed for years
 

The turmoil in Egypt didn't magically erupt just a week ago, it had been heavily primed for 2 or 3 years.

The Muslin Brotherhood's de-facto spiritual leader is Yusuf Qaradawi and he has a following of about 80 million Muslims.

Qaradawi has been spewing rhetoric like this since 2009 or earlier (SCARY STUFF):

"Oh Allah, take this oppressive, tyrannical band of people. Oh Allah, take this oppressive, Jewish, Zionist band of people. Oh Allah, do not spare a single one of them. Oh, Allah, count their numbers and kill them, down to the very last one." http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/01/mu...t-spare-a.html

"Throughout history, Allah has imposed upon the (Jews) people who would punish them for their corruption. The last punishment was carried out by Hitler. By means of all the things he did to them - even though they exaggerated this issue - he managed to put them in their place. This was divine punishment for them. Allah willing, the next time will be at the hand of the believers." http://sheikyermami.com/2009/02/02/s...o-punish-them/

80,000,000 followers is a lot of people! Why is Obama apaprently in support of the Muslim Brotherhood's bid to assume power in Egypt if Mubarak steps down?

This last one is long, but you really need to watch it in its entirity . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BH5S...eature=related

#####################################

populations to put 80,000,000 in perspective

China --- 1,330,141,295
India --- 1,173,108,018
United States --- 310,232,863
Indonesia --- 242,968,342
Brazil --- 201,103,330
Pakistan --- 184,404,791
Bangladesh --- 156,118,464
Nigeria --- 152,217,341
Russia --- 139,390,205
Japan --- 126,804,433
Mexico --- 112,468,855
Philippines --- 99,900,177
Vietnam --- 89,571,130
Ethiopia --- 88,013,491
Germany --- 82,282,988
Egypt --- 80,000,000

#####################################

Well, if you really want to trace the rift between Judeo-Christian and Muslim culture you can go a lot further than 2-3 years.

Is this an attempt to blame all of this on one man? Nice try. Won't work.

Dave

Much of what the MB believes comes from the writings of one man Qtob (or Q-tip) who was a flaming misogynist, racist, anti-semite who hated everyone.

Damn. That guy sounds like a nut. He must be a graduate of the Pat Robertson School of Theology.

It is not Obama supporting the MB, the guy Mubarak appointed as prime minister is saying he will only talk to the MB, he refuses to talk to elBaradi or any of the other leaders. Fortunately the MB will not talk to him while Mubarak remains in office.

It's not just a matter of blame, if someone eloquent enough tells people with a grievance what they want to hear, he'll get a following. A following can be like a wart. Left to its own devices it may fall away, but if you worry at it without killing it, it'll only get bigger. It's a hell of a generalization, but in the main followers don't think, they let the man in the front do their thinking for them. then turn on anyone who questions "the leader".

Sounds like Limbaugh and Beck.


Carl

Pretty much.

Dave

It will definitely work. The region is now in week one of dramatic change beyond anything that preceded it. This guy, and quite singularly, is the catalyst.

Funny, the NeoCons are trying to give Dubya credit for it. Really.

They can spin anything anyway they want. The problem is who is waiting in the wings when a power shift occurs, and the MB is poised.

Maybe, maybe not. I've just heard that they have no intention of running if democratic elections go through. Bottom line - this isn't about us.

Damn, not another Conservative talk show host?!:mad:

Dave

And it's Obama that's backing them, right? Beck was alluding to FEMA camps and mass murder at the behest of Bill Ayers, the Janitors Union and the Weather Underground again last night, or something along those lines. Showing old filmclips from the early '70s and all. Scary shit.

I think it's time for you to do the brave thing and go hide in a cave somewhere. Take plenty of Vienna Sausages and Twinkies, they have a long shelf life. Don't forget the tinfoil, I hear al-Queda is perfecting brainwashing ray guns.

Dave

Another bit of great writing by Finn's heartthrob, Kathleen Parker. In today's column, she gives credit to the "lamestream" media for the courage its members have shown in continuing to report despite the organized attacks against them by the Moubarak government.

Regards,

D-Ray

Watching Washington Week one of the talking heads noted thet the revolution in Egypt was due to the wide disparity between the rich and poor. I turned to my wife and said "I wonder when the riots will start here?"

You've married a very astute woman there, sir.

The last 3 minutes are particularly interesting . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56AuHGBscac

"kill the bastard", "cut off their toes and feed them to them", "revolution now, just like in Egypt!", "string him up, and his wife too", "hang 'em". Those progressives are some real nice folks!

What comes around goes around. When your idiots shut up, ours might consider it.
Until then just get used to it. And don't give any "Ours wouldn't do that, they're Christians." BS either.

Dave

I don't think anyone is denying The Crusades, but there sure do seem to be a whole lot of Holocaust deniers out there.

What?:confused:

Are you referring to the very real and horrific tragedy perpetrated by Nazi Germany, or the one occurring solely between your (And Becks) ears?

Dave

I think you're missing the point there. There ARE Holocoust deniers out there. I know they are wrong (my Dad was in the RAF) but the longer the gap between then and now the more deniers we'll get. There are people who 'admit' that yes, the Jews were persecuted, but not as badly as they say they were. Going back to my Dad, although he was in the RAF he was with ground forces when they went into Germany just after the war. He saw the camps, or what remained of them. But my Dad's dead now and his memories died with him. Now, weak minded people (or worse, those with their own agenda) can believe that film reports were rigged by "The Zionist Conspiracy" and all that shit.

It's the same damn thing starting again. A lot of countries heading into recession and a lot of people looking for someone else to blame. The Jews, the gypsies, the queers and the towelheads, it's all 'their' fault...... 'We' are blameless, 'we' are just the victims.

Quick, someone be foolish enough to compare this to the Christian right!

Oh, darn, too late.

Ike knew it would be denied. He had all kinds of folks flown in, for witnesses.

Pete

I think you're missing the point, Combwork. We have Glenn Beck inspired loons here in the States that think "Obama" is preparing to perpetrate another holocaust against Conservatives. Especially the Caucasian Judeo-Christian type. And I suspect that our friend may be one of them.:rolleyes:

The bolded part of the above quote speaks volumes about who these nuts typically are. If you're not sure to whom I refer, my fellow Americans most likely will.

Just to give you one example; I work with a man who, on the week of the presidential election, barricaded himself and his family, heavily armed, in their home. Why? "Because", he said, "if Obama wins the niggers are gonna go crazy, and they're not getting at MY kids!"

Yeah. That's right. We have an abundance of those here. It's true.

And, of course, NOTHING HAPPENED. But, my coworker is still buying ammunition and talking about buying a cabin in the mountains.:rolleyes:

Dave

That is genuinely unbelievable. Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting for one moment it's not true, just unbelievable. It's his kids I feel sorry for; God help them if one falls in love with someone Papa disproves of.

The have chapters, sometimes multiples in nearly every state and Yusuf Qaradawi is their leader, here, in the US.

The sponsor community organizers, here, on the ground in the US.


http://muslimamericansociety.org/mai...local-chapters

See?

Dave

You might want to actually watch Glenn Beck. He has an interesting take on what's going on in the world. If he's wrong you can have a good laugh and say, "I told you so." If he's right (as he has been for a quite a while), if you're not both a Muslim male and independently wealthy, there might be some tough sledding ahead in every country on the planet.

And by the way, how's that gas price per gallon treating you today?

That's probably the single most stupid thing I've read in years.

So are you a Muslim male, independently wealthy, or both?

Neither, and my sledding is just fine.

Today. But what about tomorrow? Do you have any idea what's going on in the Middle East?

Yep. I've been there many times. While no one can claim to know where this is going (except Glenn Beck, of course :rolleyes:), there's only so much we can do to influence the outcome. I guess that's the price you pay for installing/propping up despots.

Who's responsible for cutting them down is the real question. Where is this unrest coming from?



P.S.: If you were Lara Logan, which mid-eastern country would you visit tomorrow?

Let's hear your Fox-inspired view first. I first need to grasp your delusions before I dispel them.

That made me chortle.

Come on man, dude lives in Damascus! lol

Can I convert? How much do I have to have to be considered "independently wealthy?" Do I get any break for voting for the Muslin, radical Christian President?

Where is this unrest coming from? . . . . I wish I knew for sure.

I'm convinced that it's global, well orchestrated and well funded.

A small piece of the puzzle is the Google/Facebook connection of Wael Ghonim who openly offers "I helped spark Egypt revolt."

Excerpting, but entirely IN CONTEXT, he said, "I didn't want anyone to know that I am the administrator," he said. "There are no heroes; we are all heroes on the street. And no one is on their horse and fighting with the sword."

more at http://www.jpost.com/International/A...id=207292&R=R4

As powerful as he is within the context of his position at google, I don't believe he is the source. His own word was "administrator". He's young and idealistic, so he I believe he was probably "played" because of his ability to wield the incredible power of Google/Facebook.

I further believe someone else wrote the script he "adminstered".

The other fact to understand is that those who initially act as pawns rarely ascend to the top. Some other entity already has those aspirations.

Dispel away.

It's the work of the Illuminati. And the guy why wrote Revelations. And George Soros.

Now you might actually have something there in that third sentence.