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noonereal 01-19-2011 01:17 PM

vitriol
 
The most overused word in the dictionary the last two weeks.

Every Dick and Jane learned it's meaning and uses it in every political sentence now.


Well, at least our great leaders learned something.

finnbow 01-19-2011 01:19 PM

Yep. It describes the nature of the other party's dialogue (by definition, it seems).:rolleyes:

I think something is being lost in the past week's discussion, however. American political discourse has always had its share of vitriol. Nothing new here (or even necessarily bad). Calling out the other party as an enemy of the state/constitution who is worthy of elimination, by firearms if necessary, takes the customary vitriol too far IMHO. There are people who are screwy enough to belive this (whether or not Loughner was).

Charles 01-19-2011 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 51825)
The most overused word in the dictionary the last two weeks.

Every Dick and Jane learned it's meaning and uses it in every political sentence now.


Well, at least our great leaders learned something.

It pays to increase your word power.

Chas

piece-itpete 01-19-2011 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 51826)
Yep. It describes the nature of the other party's dialogue

I agree 100%.

:D

Vitriol? Isn't that a type of Geritiol?

You know, for the CRANKY old folks lol.

Pete

merrylander 01-19-2011 02:49 PM

According to the WaPo poll the public is tired of it.

Charles 01-19-2011 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 51831)
According to the WaPo poll the public is tired of it.

According to me I'm tired of it.

Chas

djv8ga 01-19-2011 04:12 PM

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Lot's of it on the House floor today. The left just can't stop calling people who don't support their view Nazis, killers, and every other lefty favorite.

CarlV 01-19-2011 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by djv8ga (Post 51836)
Lot's of it on the House floor today. The left just can't stop calling people who don't support their view Nazis, killers, and every other lefty favorite.

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Carl

mossbacked 01-19-2011 04:55 PM

[QUOTE=finnbow;51826]Yep. It describes the nature of the other party's dialogue (by definition, it seems).:rolleyes:

I think something is being lost in the past week's discussion, however. American political discourse has always had its share of vitriol. Nothing new here (or even necessarily bad). Calling out the other party as an enemy of the state/constitution who is worthy of elimination, by firearms if necessary, takes the customary vitriol too far IMHO. There are people who are screwy enough to belive this (whether or not Loughner was).[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah, right, there must be millions of them out there shooting any politician that moves because there are hundreds and hundreds of perfect examples that you cited, right? :rolleyes:

djv8ga 01-19-2011 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 51825)
The most overused word in the dictionary the last two weeks.

Every Dick and Jane learned it's meaning and uses it in every political sentence now.

Ain't that the truth.

doucanoe 01-19-2011 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by djv8ga (Post 51836)
Lot's of it on the House floor today. The left just can't stop calling people who don't support their view Nazis, killers, and every other lefty favorite.



I guess one persons "vitriol" is just another's passing along common knowledge of course. I just love the referral to the opposition saying things enough times it will eventually become truth in the eyes of the public and calling out the Nazi's in the same breath :rolleyes:

Upon further investigation of this Palin and the cross hairs deal, I really wish she and her people would have explained it as I assume it was intended personally. I assume the cross hairs being a metaphor for intent focus. Crazy people don't do what they do because of shite like that. They do so because they are crazy.

djv8ga 01-19-2011 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by doucanoe (Post 51852)
I guess one persons "vitriol" is just another's passing along common knowledge of course. I just love the referral to the opposition saying things enough times it will eventually become truth in the eyes of the public and calling out the Nazi's in the same breath :rolleyes:

Upon further investigation of this Palin and the cross hairs deal, I really wish she and her people would have explained it as I assume it was intended personally. I assume the cross hairs being a metaphor for intent focus. Crazy people don't do what they do because of shite like that. They do so because they are crazy.

So true. The public knows it and the Dems will just pay a higher price at the polls.

mossbacked 01-19-2011 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 51829)
I agree 100%.

:D

Vitriol? Isn't that a type of Geritiol?

You know, for the CRANKY old folks lol.

Pete

Vitriol is Viagara spiked Geritol (pronounced Vye-Tree-All)

doucanoe 01-19-2011 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by djv8ga (Post 51853)
So true. The public knows it and the Dems will just pay a higher price at the polls.


You know, I honestly don't believe this will have much impact on many people when it's all said and done. The Dems will do well if they can effectively motivate the young voters to get up by crack of noon to cast a vote. The Rep's will do equally well if they can sway the fence sitters and "disgusted with the lot of em" vote.

djv8ga 01-19-2011 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by doucanoe (Post 51860)
You know, I honestly don't believe this will have much impact on many people when it's all said and done. The Dems will do well if they can effectively motivate the young voters to get up by crack of noon to cast a vote. The Rep's will do equally well if they can sway the fence sitters and "disgusted with the lot of em" vote.

Maybe, but the Dems are losing a lot of the college kids. They
(kids) just can't find work and with every graduating class (and student loan), it's going to get worse.

doucanoe 01-19-2011 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by djv8ga (Post 51864)
Maybe, but the Dems are losing a lot of the college kids. They
(kids) just can't find work and with every graduating class (and student loan), it's going to get worse.


True that. Speaking of college ( I have one still in and the other graduated two years ago), I wonder why you don't hear much conversation about more vocational leaning after graduation alternatives.

I think that half of these kids could do much better pursuing something that would take half as long and cost not anywhere near as much. Maybe it's time for individuals to start looking at something that may actually ability to do something and at the same time, not bury themselves in unmanageable debt.

djv8ga 01-19-2011 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by doucanoe (Post 51867)
True that. Speaking of college ( I have one still in and the other graduated two years ago), I wonder why you don't hear much conversation about more vocational leaning after graduation alternatives.

I think that half of these kids could do much better pursuing something that would take half as long and cost not anywhere near as much. Maybe it's time for individuals to start looking at something that may actually ability to do something and at the same time, not bury themselves in unmanageable debt.

I agree. If you can bend and weld metal real good, a fortune awaits you in the car/bike hobby. Gets chicks too and you can't overlook that when you're young!

d-ray657 01-19-2011 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by doucanoe (Post 51852)
I guess one persons "vitriol" is just another's passing along common knowledge of course. I just love the referral to the opposition saying things enough times it will eventually become truth in the eyes of the public and calling out the Nazi's in the same breath :rolleyes:

Upon further investigation of this Palin and the cross hairs deal, I really wish she and her people would have explained it as I assume it was intended personally. I assume the cross hairs being a metaphor for intent focus. Crazy people don't do what they do because of shite like that. They do so because they are crazy.

Oh, that's just sooo last week.:rolleyes:

Regards,

D-Ray

Charles 01-19-2011 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 51871)
Oh, that's just sooo last week.:rolleyes:

Regards,

D-Ray

What happened this week?

Other than it's snowing again.

Chas

doucanoe 01-19-2011 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 51871)
Oh, that's just sooo last week.:rolleyes:

Regards,

D-Ray


Unlike the rest of you mugs, I try to avoid listening to and reading the ever present political white noise that passes for news these days ;)

BlueStreak 01-20-2011 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by djv8ga (Post 51836)
Lot's of it on the House floor today. The left just can't stop calling people who don't support their view Nazis, killers, and every other lefty favorite.

Yeah. Lord knows no one on the right would ever dream of calling someone a Nazi. Why, that wouldn't be moral.:rolleyes:

Dave

BlueStreak 01-20-2011 02:21 AM

I think to say that politicians overuse such words as "vitriol" or phrases like "job killing" would be "disingenuos".

Dave

Charles 01-20-2011 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by doucanoe (Post 51875)
Unlike the rest of you mugs, I try to avoid listening to and reading the ever present political white noise that passes for news these days ;)

Bet you don't watch wrasslin' either!!!

Chas

doucanoe 01-20-2011 08:51 PM

Ha! I haven't keep up with the wrasslin' for about 40 years.

I'll tell you what, missing a Saturday morning viewing of the AWA would ruin your whole weekend when I was a kid, though.

There was some similar sounding "vitriol" being spewed there also. Now that I think about it, the similarities were frighteningly similar in some regard. They even had foaming at the mouth minions that would defend to the death their favorites virtue and rightness despite the obvious vice and wrongness.

Kinda like here ;)

finnbow 01-20-2011 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles (Post 51931)
Bet you don't watch wrasslin' either!!!

Chas

Wrasslin' was show business, but wrestlers were ugly. And it has been famously said that politics is show business for ugly people.

Therefore, by the transitive property, wrasslin' = politics.;)

Charles 01-20-2011 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by doucanoe (Post 52094)
Ha! I haven't keep up with the wrasslin' for about 40 years.

I'll tell you what, missing a Saturday morning viewing of the AWA would ruin your whole weekend when I was a kid, though.

There was some similar sounding "vitriol" being spewed there also. Now that I think about it, the similarities were frighteningly similar in some regard. They even had foaming at the mouth minions that would defend to the death their favorites virtue and rightness despite the obvious vice and wrongness.

Kinda like here ;)

We had "All Star Wrasslin" around here, us kid wouldn't miss it for the world. Bunch of fat guys kinda looked like me only they had hair, my all time favorite "hero" was a black guy who called himself "Porkchop Jones".

The bad guys were always cheating, poor dumb blind ref who musta just got fired by the SEC couldn't catch 'em to save his life.

Now the great thing about Porkchop was the every week, the bad guys would always stoop to low as to pull a slapper, or some knucks, or get a folding chair, sneak up behind him and hit him it the head. Mr. ex-SEC never did catch on.

And bashin' Porkchop in the head was like givin' him an eight ball of coke. He'd start struttin' around the ring, then he'd start grabbin' the bad guys and bouncin' their fat asses off of the floor, the height of entertainment.

The only times there was any realism at all was when some drunken peckerwood would come charging out of the stands to make things right.

Pretty much sums up the current political situation, 'cept with wrasslin' it only cost 5 bux to get in the door, and you can leave at any time.

We're on the same page.

Chas

d-ray657 01-20-2011 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by doucanoe (Post 52094)
Ha! I haven't keep up with the wrasslin' for about 40 years.

I'll tell you what, missing a Saturday morning viewing of the AWA would ruin your whole weekend when I was a kid, though.

There was some similar sounding "vitriol" being spewed there also. Now that I think about it, the similarities were frighteningly similar in some regard. They even had foaming at the mouth minions that would defend to the death their favorites virtue and rightness despite the obvious vice and wrongness.

Kinda like here ;)

I mentioned rasslin in another thread recently. When I was a kid, it was a true morality play - almost like the westerns with their white hats and black hats. No question about who the bad guys were and who the good guys were - depending on what town you were in. And there was plenty of posturing in the pre-match festivities. Unlike our current politics however, when the rasslin was over and the crowd was gone, they all had a beer or six together.

It always struck me as funny that they regularly ran an ad for the Local Ballet Company during the matches. Finally figured out that it made sense, because of the intricate choreography that was taking place inside the ropes.

Regards,

D-Ray

Charles 01-20-2011 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 52099)
Wrasslin' was show business, but wrestlers were ugly. And it has been famously said that politics is show business for ugly people.

Therefore, by the transitive property, wrasslin' = politics.;)

Gotta admit, "Handsome" Harley Race woulda looked a lot better in a three piece suit than in speedo's and wearin' a belt buckle that woulda shocked a Texan.

I will admit, those wrasslers were pretty good athletes for a bunch of fat guys. If I did a belly flop off of the top rope, even when I weighed 135, it would have killed me.

Chas

finnbow 01-20-2011 09:48 PM

I still remember a few names: Bruno Sammartino, Argentina Apollo and Haystacks Calhoun.

Charles 01-20-2011 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 52101)
I mentioned rasslin in another thread recently. When I was a kid, it was a true morality play - almost like the westerns with their white hats and black hats. No question about who the bad guys were and who the good guys were - depending on what town you were in. And there was plenty of posturing in the pre-match festivities. Unlike our current politics however, when the rasslin was over and the crowd was gone, they all had a beer or six together.

It always struck me as funny that they regularly ran an ad for the Local Ballet Company during the matches. Finally figured out that it made sense, because of the intricate choreography that was taking place inside the ropes.

Regards,

D-Ray

I guess some fat guy in tights and wearing one of those "Pulp Fiction" zipper head masks never really had a shot at the NYCB.

Chas

Charles 01-20-2011 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 52103)
I still remember a few names: Bruno Sammartino, Argentina Apollo and Haystacks Calhoun.

Amazing how localized wrasslin was.

Handsome Harley won two or three World Championships and I don't think he ever left central Missouri.

He still runs a wrasslin skool down around the Lake of the Ozarks.

And people pay to go there!!!

It was in the paper.

Chas

d-ray657 01-20-2011 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 52103)
I still remember a few names: Bruno Sammartino, Argentina Apollo and Haystacks Calhoun.

Cowboy Bill Watts

We had Pork Chop and Haystacks

Our Apollo just went with the one name, and did all sorts of jumps and acrobatics in the ring.

Gorgeous George Jr.

Andre the Giant

They had all of the masked guys as well. One was the Assasin

The brought in a guy with an Arab name in the early seventies, cause people were seeing them as villains at the time. His name will probably come to me at 2 tomorrow morning

A super-heavyweight from OU's wrestling team, an NCAA finalist, gave pro rasslin a try. He didn't last long. Knew too much real rasslin to fake it.

My wife and I carried one term from pro rasslin into our lexicon. When we were trying to coordinate rides to all of the school/sports events we always said we were tag-teaming.

Regards,

D-Ray

piece-itpete 01-21-2011 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 52099)
Wrasslin' was show business, but wrestlers were ugly. And it has been famously said that politics is show business for ugly people.

Therefore, by the transitive property, wrasslin' = politics.;)

LOL!

The onliest name I recognize is Andre the Giant. Hulk Hogan was big when I was a kid. Macho Man Randy Savage was a bad guy, until he was rehabilitated :)

My dad says pro wrestling was fake even when he was a kid.

Pete

merrylander 01-21-2011 09:23 AM

Anyone remember Dan Dunphy of boxing announcing fame? TV killed pro boxing because Dunphy kept the speil he always used for radio "He throws a left, then a right, and another left" meanwhile you could see the two fighters in a close embrace in the middle of the ring.:D

finnbow 01-21-2011 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 52136)
Anyone remember Dan Dunphy of boxing announcing fame? TV killed pro boxing because Dunphy kept the speil he always used for radio "He throws a left, then a right, and another left" meanwhile you could see the two fighters in a close embrace in the middle of the ring.:D

He now develops "talking points" for the GOP.:D

Charles 01-21-2011 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 52136)
Anyone remember Dan Dunphy of boxing announcing fame? TV killed pro boxing because Dunphy kept the speil he always used for radio "He throws a left, then a right, and another left" meanwhile you could see the two fighters in a close embrace in the middle of the ring.:D

Teevee killed a lot of things, starting with people's imagination.

Chas

noonereal 02-09-2011 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles (Post 52147)
Teevee killed a lot of things, starting with people's imagination.

Chas

not mine man, it fine "tuned" it.


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