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finnbow 12-06-2010 02:49 PM

Tax Breaks for a Noah's Ark Theme Park in Kentucky
 
Now, Kentucky won't only have a Creation Museum, but a Noah's Ark theme park subsidized by the taxpayer. They are indeed exceptional.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/06/us...e&ref=homepage

Friggin' Hillwilliams.:rolleyes:

Charles 12-06-2010 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 46461)
Now, Kentucky won't only have a Creation Museum, but a Noah's Ark theme park subsidized by the taxpayer. They are indeed exceptional.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/06/us...e&ref=homepage

Friggin' Hillwilliams.:rolleyes:

Easy now, a REAL Hillwilliam wouldn't spend a nickle on something like that.

You must be thinking of rednecks.

Chas

noonereal 12-06-2010 03:17 PM

"plan to construct a full-size replica of Noah’s ark"

How can someone construct a full sized replica if it never existed and even if it did how would we know what the original was like so that they could be a replica? :confused:

piece-itpete 12-06-2010 03:22 PM

'What's a cubit?'

:D

Pete

Charles 12-06-2010 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 46468)
"plan to construct a full-size replica of Noah’s ark"

How can someone construct a full sized replica if it never existed and even if it did how would we know what the original was like so that they could be a replica? :confused:

You would be amazed at what can be created with fiberglass encapsulated extruded foam.

Is it live, or is it Memorex?

Chas

Charles 12-06-2010 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 46471)
'What's a cubit?'

:D

Pete

It's a lot like an arshin.

Chas

merrylander 12-06-2010 03:30 PM

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...8RL_9JqD9qtI-g

finnbow 12-06-2010 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 46477)

Damn. I didn't know they had Hillwilliams in Holland (much less hills).:D

merrylander 12-06-2010 03:38 PM

I recalled seeing that years back, t'was easy enough to find with Google. Funny though why does everyone assume Noah would have collected mature animals. Pre puberty ones would have been smaller and easier to handle. Now how he got African Elephants and Giraffe I will leave to you to solve.:D


"Oh there were green alligators and humped back geese"

Charles 12-06-2010 03:51 PM

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1166/...0bb7e8.jpg?v=0

Chas

JJIII 12-06-2010 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 46480)

"Oh there were green alligators and long-necked geese"

"Humpty-back Camels and Chimpanzees":)

d-ray657 12-06-2010 06:58 PM

Hey JJ. Isn't Tennessee's financial picture the same as most other states. Can it afford to be giving this type of money to a theme park?

Regards,

D-Ray

noonereal 12-06-2010 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 46490)
Hey JJ. Isn't Tennessee's financial picture the same as most other states. Can it afford to be giving this type of money to a theme park?

Regards,

D-Ray

Isn't Tennessee one of the welfare states? As such they will fund this with my money rather than their own taxpayers.

I hope I at lest get a free admission ticket as a thank you.

Deczor 12-06-2010 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 46492)
I hope I at lest get a free admission ticket as a thank you.


Why?



...

noonereal 12-06-2010 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Deczor (Post 46493)
Why?



...

I want to see the animals. Especially the extinct ones.

BlueStreak 12-06-2010 11:18 PM

Wonder if they'll erect statues of The Good Reverend Jim Jones and Marshall Applewhite riding a comets tail at the entrance?

Dave

Combwork 12-07-2010 02:41 AM

How Big?????
 
I'm curious. Assuming that all the animals were young and as small as possible, and given that the only material available was wood, was there any way a boat big enough to carry all the animals plus food and strong enough to cope with waves without falling apart could have been built?

JJIII 12-07-2010 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 46490)
Hey JJ. Isn't Tennessee's financial picture the same as most other states. Can it afford to be giving this type of money to a theme park?

Regards,

D-Ray

I'm no expert on the states financial picture but I am (and always have been) against states, counties, or cities funding or giving tax breaks to things like this. If an organization can't make it on it's own... so be it.

Charles 12-07-2010 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 46492)
Isn't Tennessee one of the welfare states? As such they will fund this with my money rather than their own taxpayers.

I hope I at lest get a free admission ticket as a thank you.

Missouri is. If you go to Branson, they'll give you fifty bucks.

And if that's too lowbrow for you, I think I can get you onto the artillery range at Lost in the Woods.

I would think that would be exciting for even the most jaded.

Chas

noonereal 12-07-2010 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Charles (Post 46523)
Missouri is. If you go to Branson, they'll give you fifty bucks.

And if that's too lowbrow for you, I think I can get you onto the artillery range at Lost in the Woods.

I would think that would be exciting for even the most jaded.

Chas

so I get to paly dodge bullet on the artillery range rather than tour the zoo on the arch?:rolleyes:

Charles 12-07-2010 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 46526)
so I get to paly dodge bullet on the artillery range rather than tour the zoo on the arch?:rolleyes:

Be careful at the zoo...the apes will throw turds at you.

Crews here, time to go to work.

Chas

merrylander 12-07-2010 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Combwork (Post 46521)
I'm curious. Assuming that all the animals were young and as small as possible, and given that the only material available was wood, was there any way a boat big enough to carry all the animals plus food and strong enough to cope with waves without falling apart could have been built?


Looking at the pictures of the 3/4 sized one in The Netherlands could one man have ever built such a craft and finished it in a single lifetime?:rolleyes:

d-ray657 12-07-2010 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 46532)
Looking at the pictures of the 3/4 sized one in The Netherlands could one man have ever built such a craft and finished it in a single lifetime?:rolleyes:

His sons and sons in law helped him.:rolleyes:

Regards,

D-Ray

noonereal 12-07-2010 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles (Post 46530)
Be careful at the zoo...the apes will throw turds at you.

Crews here, time to go to work.

Chas

What do I care, I'll throw them right back.

merrylander 12-07-2010 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 46533)
His sons and sons in law helped him.:rolleyes:

Regards,

D-Ray

Must have been a bloody large family.:rolleyes:

piece-itpete 12-07-2010 12:17 PM

Noah lived many hundreds of years.

Pete

Charles 12-07-2010 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 46533)
His sons and sons in law helped him.:rolleyes:

Regards,

D-Ray

In other words, he did it by himself while they drank his beer.

Chas

Combwork 12-08-2010 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 46532)
Looking at the pictures of the 3/4 sized one in The Netherlands could one man have ever built such a craft and finished it in a single lifetime?:rolleyes:

I doubt he could, but unless you take the old testament literally word for word (despite it being written centuries after the 'event') and that there could have been no possible mistakes in translation, what's to say Noah didn't have a little help? I'm more curious as to whether anything that size could have floated for long enough to go anywhere. "It grounded on Mount Ararat". Without it falling apart and drowning the animals? Maybe they all had wings;) Or were lifted up by the choir celestial to be dropped unceremoniously on the nearest bit of fertile ground. Except that it would have been under several fathoms of water so there they were, stuck on top of a rocky mountain with nothing to eat or drink (Noah wonders if God would miss the odd animal or two). Bored, pissed off; wondering if this was all a practical joke.

Going off on a tangent, if the garden of Eden story was true, the whole human race started with an act of incest.

merrylander 12-08-2010 07:52 AM

Some cats and rats and ellyphunts, but sure as you are born
you're never going to see no unicorn.


That is all

piece-itpete 12-08-2010 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Charles (Post 46601)
In other words, he did it by himself while they drank his beer.

Chas

Good old Dad and his free beer!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Combwork (Post 46621)
I doubt he could, but unless you take the old testament literally word for word (despite it being written centuries after the 'event') and that there could have been no possible mistakes in translation, what's to say Noah didn't have a little help? I'm more curious as to whether anything that size could have floated for long enough to go anywhere. "It grounded on Mount Ararat". Without it falling apart and drowning the animals? Maybe they all had wings;) Or were lifted up by the choir celestial to be dropped unceremoniously on the nearest bit of fertile ground. Except that it would have been under several fathoms of water so there they were, stuck on top of a rocky mountain with nothing to eat or drink (Noah wonders if God would miss the odd animal or two). Bored, pissed off; wondering if this was all a practical joke.

Going off on a tangent, if the garden of Eden story was true, the whole human race started with an act of incest.

Humans became accomplished sailors early on.

And yeah, not only Adam and Eve but also Noah and family :)

Pete

Combwork 12-08-2010 10:11 AM

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Humans became accomplished sailors early on.

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I guess they had to be, but had anything close to the size of the Ark been built before? If you scale the model in Norway up to full size the ship must have been huge.

I'm neither for nor against religious stuff (unless their militants start trouble) so I'm not knocking anyone's beliefs, just curious. Using nothing but wood fur and leather, could anything that size be built; strong enough to hold together and light enough to be fully loaded and still float?

Combwork 12-08-2010 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 46633)

And yeah, not only Adam and Eve but also Noah and family :)

Pete

Reminds me of an OZ comic from the 1960's. "The family that lays together stays together":eek:

piece-itpete 12-08-2010 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Combwork (Post 46643)
Reminds me of an OZ comic from the 1960's. "The family that lays together stays together":eek:

Lmao! That reminds me of the Mad magazine takeoff of the tv show 'Bonanza', because the dad of the show used to use that format saying.

The Ark, looking at it though a Christians' eyes, if God wanted it to float, it would float. And consider that he got divine guidance in construction.

Plus, as we learn more and more about history some of the things done with ancient 'technology' was amazing, astounding even by todays' standards.

Pete

BlueStreak 12-08-2010 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Combwork (Post 46641)
I guess they had to be, but had anything close to the size of the Ark been built before? If you scale the model in Norway up to full size the ship must have been huge.

I'm neither for nor against religious stuff (unless their militants start trouble) so I'm not knocking anyone's beliefs, just curious. Using nothing but wood fur and leather, could anything that size be built; strong enough to hold together and light enough to be fully loaded and still float?

Some would say, "With God all things are possible."

I would say, "Of course not, it's just another one of their silly fairy-tales."

Dave

piece-itpete 12-08-2010 10:46 AM

Thanks Blue, I love you too :p

Pete

BlueStreak 12-08-2010 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 46659)
Thanks Blue, I love you too :p

Pete

Likewise.:p:p

Dave

merrylander 12-08-2010 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Combwork (Post 46643)
Reminds me of an OZ comic from the 1960's. "The family that lays together stays together":eek:

Was that "Incest, the game the whole family can play"?


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