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piece-itpete 09-07-2010 02:03 PM

'Bill Jr' interview.
 
AKA Tony Blair :)

Anyone see it? While I don't agree with most of his political outlook, I've learned in general that the Brits have a, um, more developed worldview overall.

"[T]his is actually more like the phenomenon of revolutionary communism. It's the religious or cultural equivalent of it, and its roots are deep, its tentacles are long, and its narrative about Islam stretches far further than we think into even parts of mainstream opinion who abhor the extremism, but sort of buy some of the rhetoric that goes with it,..."

http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/tony-...ry?id=11562892

Just thought it was interesting....

Pete

noonereal 09-07-2010 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 38763)
AKA Tony Blair :)

Anyone see it? While I don't agree with most of his political outlook, I've learned in general that the Brits have a, um, more developed worldview overall.

"[T]his is actually more like the phenomenon of revolutionary communism. It's the religious or cultural equivalent of it, and its roots are deep, its tentacles are long, and its narrative about Islam stretches far further than we think into even parts of mainstream opinion who abhor the extremism, but sort of buy some of the rhetoric that goes with it,..."

http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/tony-...ry?id=11562892

Just thought it was interesting....

Pete

he's full of crap.

Iraq was contained. Saddam was a text book sociopath, a bully/coward. He would have never done anything to cause the US to attack as we did in Afghanistan.

I agree with his view on Iran.

piece-itpete 09-07-2010 03:21 PM

Nah, Saddam NEVER would've opened fire on USAF planes.

Wait a minute...

;)

It appears Europe is serious about a non-nuclear Iran. If they bomb them I will have to reassess them.

Pete

Boreas 09-07-2010 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 38769)
Nah, Saddam NEVER would've opened fire on USAF planes.

You mean the ones overflying his territory and harassing his ground crews?

John

merrylander 09-08-2010 07:47 AM

Actually the were mostly afraid to turn on the SAM5 radars as the missiles would fly down the beam and blow them up.

noonereal 09-08-2010 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 38769)
Nah, Saddam NEVER would've opened fire on USAF planes.

Wait a minute...

;)

It appears Europe is serious about a non-nuclear Iran. If they bomb them I will have to reassess them.

Pete

Pete I love ya but I doubt Europe cares about your assessment of them. I think their assessment of "our" country would preclude them from giving a rats ass about what we think. Frankly, I don't blame them.

piece-itpete 09-08-2010 08:20 AM

They should care, they've been riding on our backs for decades now.

And not the planes that were harrassing them, but the ones who were enforcing the treaty signed after we kicked them out of Kuwait ;)

Pete

noonereal 09-08-2010 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 38821)
They should care, they've been riding on our backs for decades now.

And not the planes that were harrassing them, but the ones who were enforcing the treaty signed after we kicked them out of Kuwait ;)

Pete

we should have been clear to Saddam before he went into Kuwait then we would not have had to kick him out

Boreas 09-08-2010 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 38821)
They should care, they've been riding on our backs for decades now.

Yup! They rode us right into Kuwait, they rode us into Kosovo, they rode us right into Iraq and then they rode us into Afghanistan. Freakin' freeloaders!

Quote:

And not the planes that were harrassing them, but the ones who were enforcing the treaty signed after we kicked them out of Kuwait ;)
And harassing them in the process.

John

Boreas 09-08-2010 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 38827)
we should have been clear to Saddam before he went into Kuwait then we would not have had to kick him out

We were clear. We told him we didn't have a stake in any "arab/arab" disputes.

John

noonereal 09-08-2010 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 38841)
We were clear. We told him we didn't have a stake in any "arab/arab" disputes.

John

exactly

piece-itpete 09-08-2010 09:50 AM

Is there anything America can't do or be responsible for, except anything good? Just curious.

Pete

noonereal 09-08-2010 10:07 AM

I'm not gonna live with my head in the sand.

piece-itpete 09-08-2010 10:26 AM

You mean, there might just be on little thing right with the world that we did, or there might just be one little evil in the world that's not our fault?

I dunno....

Pete

noonereal 09-08-2010 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 38886)
You mean, there might just be on little thing right with the world that we did, or there might just be one little evil in the world that's not our fault?

I dunno....

Pete

Well, we do have a bigger "presence" in the world than any other country.

Interpret that as you like but also look at it from the eyes of other countries.

I remember how people respected the US when I traveled. No more. Ever try to understand why?

piece-itpete 09-08-2010 11:07 AM

Because they're spoiled brats who are happy for us to do the heavy lifting?

I always remember this comment though - 'Dealing with the US is like taking a bath with an elephant. It's uncomfortable, even when the elephant is trying to be nice.'

Pete

noonereal 09-08-2010 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 38908)
Because they're spoiled brats who are happy for us to do the heavy lifting?



Pete

Them or us, depending on how you look at it.

finnbow 09-08-2010 04:58 PM

Blair is simply doing a little "legacy cleanup" here. He's as full of shit as he ever was. English accents do make one seem smart, however.

merrylander 09-09-2010 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 38908)
Because they're spoiled brats who are happy for us to do the heavy lifting?

I always remember this comment though - 'Dealing with the US is like taking a bath with an elephant. It's uncomfortable, even when the elephant is trying to be nice.'

Pete

Ah I see America did it all by its lonesome. Har har.

I think that was Pierre Trudeau, one time Canadian Prime Minister who said "Being a close neighbour of the U.S. is like sleeping with an elephant, you are very careful should the elephant roll over". Or words to that effect.

As regards Tony Blair several of my English cousins referred to him as Pinocchio (see Jcrickets avatar).:D

piece-itpete 09-09-2010 08:05 AM

Yeah, those Libs tend that way :D

How did everyone like his Cheney and Bush comments? :evilgrin:

Pete


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