Does Beck = MLK?
 

Enjoy,

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_uMrWYoxreA...final-thin.jpg

Dave

I always wondered where Beck got his moral superiority. Now I know.

Regards,

D-Ray

That is truly scary! It's almost like they're twins separated at birth!

John

That's good stuff, never seen anything about his early days before. Kinda supports my personal belief that he was out of his mind on acid one day watching the movie Network when he came up with his current persona....of course he might have wandered out of the room before seeing how it ended, but i'm sure the fox execs can remind him.

Beck to Palin; "Do you think they (Liberals) oppose us----------because they fear God?"
Palin to Beck; "Yes, absolutely."

Oh, "God" is it? Now we think we're Gods personal envoy?

I think Timshelcaleb is right. It must be acid.

Dave

where did this come from?

Fox Interview. I'll see if I can find it.

Well......my quote is a bit inaccurate, but that's how I take this. Your milage may vary.

Dave

I think you've got it very close if not exactly. I remember that conversation. I think it occurred when Palin was making the rounds of Fox shows after they signed her up as a commentator.

John

Yes.

The question, broken down to a basic level is this;

How do you govern under specific religious principles, with a bias toward a certain religion that is, without treading on the rights of others?

To my mind, you can't. I believe this is the problem that arises in every Theocracy.
They have Christins in Iran, but their lives are miserable, as they are forced to live under Sharia law right along with everone else. And this is what I fear, yes that's right I said fear, from the religious right in America. That they will say it's okay to hold other beliefs, but holding them will be "socially unacceptable". Kind of like what it must be like to be gay or involved in an interracial relationship in America. We are told we are free to choose our own path in life from the day we're born. But if you choose ceratin paths, you might "have a little problem". Put the muscle of the government behind it to make sure the courts look the other way and LOOK OUT. You choice is not illegal, but watch what happens when you choose it...............

See what I'm sayin'?

Dave

Quotes from the reverend Glenn Beck:

“We must restore America and restore her honor,’’

“Something beyond imagination is happening,America today begins to turn back to God.’’

“recognize your place to the creator. Realize that he is our king. He is the one who guides and directs our life and protects us.’’

“I ask, not only if you would pray on your knees, but pray on your knees but with your door open for your children to see,’’


:rolleyes:

let me understand this, if I call this guy a "nut job" I am a hater?

The man has no honour, all of this religious moralizing is simply to increase his income.

Elmer Gantry?

We need another Sinclair Lewis.

Regards,

D-Ray

Oh, I have no problem with people having religious beliefs, I just don't think it belongs in the political arena. It becomes a tool for people like--------Beck. Or politicians with even more nefarious agendas.

Dave

It was not a political rally :p

Seems it was a religious rally.

I have to look, I wonder if Sarah brought her witch doctor?

It sounds to me like it was both. And that's why I have a problem with it.

When you mix politics with religion and politics become your religion,
and that's when it gets crazy.

Dave

The crowd estimates
 

"Early reports indicate that so large is the crowd that attendees were having difficulty hearing the speakers. A quick scan of mainstream news outlets that have done actual estimates this morning indicates that attendance at this point is between 300,000 and 500,000 people."
"Reporters on the ground, however, state that the claim of 500,000 attendees is grossly underestimated. A more accurate assessment of the crowd may well turn out to be between 500,000 and 1 million."


http://www.examiner.com/conservative...ng-honor-rally

or was it 87,000?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...html?tag=strip

We need another Marjoe Gortner to blow the lid off all these demagogues from the inside.

John

It gets even crazier when religion becomes your politics.

John

Things are so polarized now that internal exposés will have no impact other than causing the accused to circle their wagons against the onslaught of liberals, God-haters, the MSM, ........

We're not liberals any more. We're Progressives.

I wonder if Mr. Beck read the portion of the Bible where Jesus instructs believers to pray in private. Please, please, please, quit using my religion to advance an unkind agenda!

Funny how right-wingers can be so bitter against the corporate media. I suppose if you convince all or your audience that the other media outlets are lying, they have to come to you for the "truth."

Regards,

D-Ray

Beyond the term MSM, Boss Limbaugh uses the term "State-Owned Media" as if the MSM were a political arm of the Democrats. What I don't get (among many other things) is if it were "state-owned," why did they criticize Dubya (when he "owned" it)? Their assertion about having a monopoly on the truth is troubling, to say the least.

Rush said that America is not anti Muslim and as proof he offered the election of Obama.

and his audience shakes their heads in agreement, never even understanding how he just made them saps

Mega-dittos.

That such a significant number of our fellow citizens can embrace the identity of being "Dittoheads" is a constant source of puzzlement and sadness to me.

John

Blame it in part on the educational system failing to demand that the students master critical thinking. Blame the rest of it on the charlatans in talk radio.

Regards,

D-Ray

Why does stuff like this only happen in the US and the middle east?
The only places I can think of (apart from france to a lesser degree in recent times) that have this whole flag/idol waving mantra going on are the united states and middle east states.

From the other side of the world it looks idiotic. Sorry, I don't mean to put anyone here down, but with due respect all countries that have fundamentalist christian and muslim populations and media need to sort themselves out before this gets too far out of control.

Nationalism, exceptionalism, and fundamentalism are funny things: especially when entertwined...

I don't feel put down but if certain folks who take their marching orders from our current crop of demagogues do I'm okay with that. ;)

Seriously, though, we're primates. That means we evolved living in troops ruled by fairly autocratic and despotic alphas. It also means that we have a high degree of territoriality and a strong antipathy to outsiders, including those of our own species. As a result we're pretty hard wired for xenophobia and prejudice, especially when encouraged in that direction by charismatic figures.

It's our job as "evolved" primates to overcome the parts of our programming that work against us in our new environment. Trouble is we've mastered science and technology to such an extent that we can't evolve or adapt fast enough to keep up with the changes we ourselves have made and continue to make.

Oh, and welcome!

John

Dezcor, welcome and thanks for bringing in some perspective.

John, one thing about your post made me shudder. I had never really thought of Beck and Limaugh as charismatic figures, but I guess that is right. I recognized that Reagan had some charisma. Hearing Obama on the campaign trial, I thought his eloquence carried its own type of charisma. But Rush and Beck (and Palin)- to me they have as much charisma as Lucretia McEvil.

Regards,

D-Ray

Take a look at that aerial photo.

There is nowhere near a million people in that photo.

Dave

They make my skin crawl, and I mean that literally, but one can't escape the fact that for many people they possess a power that can only be described as charismatic. You know, history is replete with examples of thoroughly odious people whose influence over others was mind-boggling. Off the top of my head, Rasputin, Hitler and Jim Jones come to mind.

Now, lest you wonder whether I might be comparing these three to the current "trinity" of Limbaugh, Beck and Palin, let me assure you that I am.

John

Kind of funny that amid all of this O'Reilly almost sounds like the voice of reason. If we needed any more evidence about how low public discourse has sunk, that is it.

Regards,

D-Ray

No kidding.

The last time I tuned in to Limbaughs show, there was a man who claimed to have been a longtime supporter, screaming at him. I didn't catch the entire conversation, but I did catch the sentence, "I've finally realized what you and your kind are all about." Then he launched into a tyrade about the "devaluation of work", declining wages and lack of health coverage for "people who DO work", vanishing pensions, etc., etc. Of course Limbaugh cut him off and denounced him as an "imposter" and a "union nutbag" then went on to angrily spew his usual bullshit about "...rediculous hourly wages and lavish benefits going to people who barely show up for work..."

What world does he live in? Why, a world where one gets $50,000,000 a year to sit on his fat ass and bitch at a microphone, of course. Maybe he's "projecting"?:p

Right wingers have long complained that American workers are not incentivized because "they have everything handed to them".

Where will the incentive be when they are done making sure work isn't worth the bother?:confused:

Dave

The workers retire in their late fifties, early sixties, because they have carpal tunnel syndrome, degenerative disk disease, bad knees, and have generally used their bodies up with years of demanding labor. The execs might retire in their fifties, however, because they have a golden parachute when they are sacked. Or maybe, they put that in the bank and get hired by cronies on boards where they have served. They can keep working late in life as long as their cunning is intact. In their minds their talent is "unique" while the workers are fungible. Parts get worn out, you discard and replace them. No need for those entitlements (gasp) for worn out parts is there?

Why do the people, who are at risk for losing what they contributed toward their retirement, so enamored by those who would balance the budget on their already tired backs.

Regards,

D-Ray

Overpaid and underworked my arse, ten hour days are the norm here, two weeks vacation if you are lucky. The only difference from the plantation days is that you are now an economic slave.

My 4 years of work in a union shop wer the worst I ever had. I went 97 days in a row once without a day off. These were days up to 14 hours long. I averaged 27 days a yar that I had off(this was holidays, weekends and vacations combined). Yeah, I made unbelievable ampounts of money, but nearly at the cost of my health and my family.
Union couldn't protect us, in fact, that is why they worked us so hard, to bust us.

What a mess.

Oh, back to beck,
I am feeling violently ill about now.
What irks me are the folks who I have heard talk about him They are all up in praise, they have done little to no research on him. He is just another overpaid face and voice(an actor) to lead the mindless.
I told my mother(extreme right winger) taht everything tha comes out of his mouth is written and orchestrated by a huge team of workers behind the scene. Fox dictates to him what he says. We all know this(more or less).

Whooo, she blew a few gaskets at that. Hope she feels better now.

Same story here with one exception I was in management to I was not compensated for all the extra hours.

Corporate America is a bad system for the American worker. IMHO

QFT

Regards,

D-Ray

QFT? means what?
sorry, i am way behind