This was not right..
 

Last weekend was the Woodward Dream Cruise in Michigan. For the past 5 plus years we have seen vehicles like this driving up and down Woodward. I have no problem with freedom of speech, but, when you are at a "Family Friendly" event, this is something that I do not want any child to see.

As a society we have ratings on many things from video games, to movies that we see in a theater. To me this is grossly offensive and scary to small children.

In the past these people have been taken to court to prevent them from participating. The court ruled that this was freedom of speech. This isn't speech, this is just plain offensive.

I agree.

Yes, it is both offensive and tasteless. Luckily, this dreck probably doesn't register with small children otherwise enjoying themselves. And those who are old enough to understand the message may be repelled by these unsavory tactics and align themselves against those sending the message.

It's a little ironic that those wingnuts who feel the need to assault people's sensitivities with such grotesque displays are the same type of folks bitching about their sensitivities being assaulted by the "Ground Zero Mosque."

:cool:

the mosque is not at ground zero

(they have really sold this image haven't they)

Nor is it a mosque. Don't let the facts get in the way of a good argument (or partisan propaganda).

We had the same issue with protesters at abortion clinics 'round here, and the same results. In time they went away, but it was because of ordinary citizens confronting them, not the police.

Dave

While I was going through the pictures I realized that this picture is taken in front of a church and it's school. Shrine of the little flower, I think is the name.

It amazes me that these people drive this vehicle from another state, cause we have enough of the abortion protesters in Michigan.

I find pro-life types to be the biggest hypocrits around, once the infant is born they lose all interest and it can bloody well starve for all they care.

On top of that, a large number of them are also pro-death penalty. Go figure.:confused:

To borrow a phrase from Julian Bond, the abortion protesters believe that live begins at conception and ends at birth.

Regards,

D-Ray

Including being in favor of "extra-judicial enforcement" ad hoc of the death penalty.

John

Indeed. I starve and beat babies every day. For fun. The dog doesn't seem to mind as much.

Of course I would never be as insulting as driving that truck around. I would simply hold up a enlarged copy of the baby parts price list from the local non profit Planned Parenthood.

Pete

Want to back that up with some evidence?

John

It was in the Plain Dealer a couple of years ago. Feel free to contact them if you wish, or ignore me.

Pete

I got a minute, this does back up what the PD said:

http://www.lifeissues.org/connector/99jul.html

Pete

I've been finding references to it too, all from 1999 like yours. It seems that most of the information came from a single "whistle blower" going by the pseudonym of "Kelly". Maybe all of it since nobody else is referred to directly. There are just mentions of other people who were "recruited" to spy on clinics.

I also see where the House passed a resolution by voice vote to investigate the "trafficking" of fetal tissue but I don't see anything about those hearings. They apparently went nowhere, probably because there was nowhere to go. Also, a similar bill was introduced in the then Republican controlled (55-45) Senate but failed.

I also found this. Among other things, you'll see that Planned Parenthood wasn't one of the abortion providers accused and you'll also see that what you accused them of is and was at the time a violation of Federal law.

Seriously, Pete, can you not conceive of organizations who believe that organizations which believe that murdering abortion providers and blowing up clinics would draw the line at making up stories about selling body parts?

John

Once again, believe it or not, I first read this story in my local paper, an old Dem rag, and the reporter said he had a copy of their price list.

Pete

Maybe but it really does look like a hoax, doesn't it?

John

If it was the Inquirer I'd be with you. The Plain Dealer is pretty good, for a leftie front :D

Pete

Not a hoax pulled by the PD but on it and on other papers who ran with it.

John

Ok......

Pete

This is interesting:

http://books.google.com/books?id=A1l...haren)&f=false

Pete

It's just Smith's speech on the floor in support of H. Res. 350. Along with Tom Tancredo and Joseph Pitts, he was a cosponsor of the resolution. It doesn't really add to anything posted yesterday except perhaps the fact that this was all based on an article in the Washington Times, apparently without any effort at independent confirmation of the alleged facts in the article.

Also, the article, really a column, not reportage, was by a Mona Charen, best known as the author of these edifying tomes:

"Useful Idiots: How Liberals Got it Wrong in the Cold War and Still Blame America First"

"Do-Gooders: How Liberals Harm Those They Claim to Help — and the Rest of Us"

So, you have a Right Wing hack, fronting for a Right Wing anti-abortion group, who writes a column in the Right Wing rag, the Washington Times. Then three Right Wing congressmen in a Republican controlled House under the leadership of Dick Armey get this thing on the floor for a vote and it passes. But, apparently, the thing stunk so badly that the Republican-controlled Senate failed to pass a similar resolution.

John

Let's not all be so naive, what kind document would you like to damage your opponents? I have three computers and can print standard letter, business, 11 x 17 or all the way up to 36 x 48.

Let's also consider that this "scandal" arose 11 years ago and quickly disappeared. That's several lifetimes in politics. Does anyone think for one moment that if there was any substance to this at all the Right Wing and the anti-abortion crowd would have let go of it? Really?

John

A lot of this reminds me of the guy who made counterfiet bill, he figured everyone suspected twenties so he made sixteen dollar bill, as in $16.00.:D

Lolol! Must've used it on Libs :eek: :D

I like that lady now, good job! :thumpsup: ;)

Pete

Sounds like Rep. Smith's source is about as good as Rep. Goober's source for the Terror Babies story.

Regards,

D-Ray

Be careful in underestimating the brutality of man.

http://www.smallvictoriesusa.com/ima...%20(front).JPG

I have verified that the company existed. It is mentioned here:

http://supreme.lp.findlaw.com/suprem...r.ami.usjf.pdf

Pete

And that looks so official! any idiot with a PC could have cooked that up.

Obama exists. Does that make him a Muslim terrorist?

Do you think someone would have concocted a hoax like this about a non-existent company?

As I said, Pete, this came up 11 years ago and quickly and quietly disappeared. Do you really think that would have happened if there were any truth to it?

John

:eek: Are you denying Obie is a terrorist now?

What next from the left?:rolleyes:

I agree that it's sketchy, however the harder and harder I look into it it becomes more real. I recommend doing so.

Consider - Why no denial?

Pete

Heck now that I think about it, what would be the lefts' problem with it anyway? It's no different than partial birth abortion or perhaps harvesting stem cells anyway.

Pete

It's quite a bit different, Pete, and, if you wanted to construct a continuum, partial birth abortion is way up at the top of the list and the harvesting of stem cells from embryos and blastocysts (not fetuses) would be at the bottom. Harvesting organs from already aborted fetuses isn't even on that continuum since it's not a form of abortion.

Of course, I recognize that to some people all of the various procedures constitute distinctions without a difference. To them all abortion, no matter how or when it's done, amounts to murder. I'm just not one of those people.

Personally, I find the idea of harvesting aborted fetuses for parts to be grotesque but I recognize that, as unsavory as it is, there are potential benefits to mankind that can result from it. On the other hand, as long as abortion is legal, the existence of fetal remains will be a reality. What possible benefit to the species can be derived from incinerating them as "medical waste"?

Of course, this is all moot since it's illegal and has been since before this "scandal" surfaced in 1999.

John