Who Bumped Off the CEO?
 

With all the press coverage surely others around here have heard about it. IMO the "evidence" the police have found is what he's wanted them to find and the image they have is what he wanted them to see. After the hit the shooter made his way into Central Park and from there to who knows where. My bet is he's long gone by now.

Who Bumped Off the CEO?
 

I agree he is long gone but I am sure law enforcement knows much more than they are telling us. I suspect they will catch him soon.

They say they tracked him as far as a mass transit junction where he could have got an interstate bus.

He made mistakes and was sloppy IMHO.

What I see is just how much we are being watched now.
On camera everywhere 24/7 by whom?

How did he know the where and when??? Helper or helpers....

I'm also curious about that part. I still question was he sloppy or just using misdirection? If he had help, a bus ride to somewhere, then to a waiting vehicle then on to where? I also question if law enforcement knows more than they're saying? Forget about not spooking the guy, he's got to know they have a facial image and they're looking hard to find him.
On a related note, why so much attention to this one particular homicide?

Reuters reports that the gunman has been identified, but the report is behind a paywall.

As to multiple images (surveillance), I believe that most if not all of them are from private security cameras facing the front. Police usually canvas door to door for images.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/nyc...ts-2024-12-07/

I wonder if he might escape the clutches of law enforcement. I'm sensing a groundswell of public support cheering on his escape. How many people do you suppose have seen him, shrugged their shoulders and looked the other way?

Sooner or later someone will want that fifty thousand dollar reward.

Reuters:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ny...63a4ad68&ei=13

I still don't see what good witholding the guy's name is.

From the article: "[NYC Mayor] Adams was quoted by the Post as saying the police were withholding the suspect's name for now to deny him any advantage."

The article says this info came from a comment Eric Adams made to the NY Post. While it may be true, neither are credible.

Adams is bluffing. Releasing the man's name at this point would only aid in his capture. It only take one person who knows him that wants to claim the reward.

I can answer this one.......

Because the guy was filthy stinkin rich :mad:

Poor commoners like us can get offed every day and twice on Sundays, and not even make the 4AM Monday news :rolleyes:

While it's hard to actually condone any killing, it's even harder to condemn the killing of one who became so rich preying on the sick. Just rewards.....

Oh, and, yeah Eric Adams ifs full of shit. MAJOR full of shit! If they had the guy's name screw announcing it on only one news source, it'd be a "special report" breaking into every single TV network and annoying alerts on our cellphones.

Adams' ploy is as transparent as a new window on a sunny day..... :p

When people know this man's name, they will know who their new hero is.

Not for everyone; some still have a big 'violence without sanction' is wrong value, and are not strongly anti-establishment in attitude. But these are not majority values now, I don't think. Many who hate big institutions they see as selfish, rapacious, and harmful, and hate the way they act with impunity, are applauding.

Expect some politicians to notice and start a rhetorical crusade against big insurance.

What surprises me the most is how long it has taken for shooting like this happen. The insurance companies have been pushing the limits of human patience for years for insane profits.

Revolutions, wars have started with such a event.

The old torches and pitchforks coming to get the rich along with the elites.

This is the most detailed report of events I have read yet, not that I have spent a lot of time on this either.

NYPD releases 2 new photos of man sought in killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO

But the report did not mention that Eric Adams is a lying sack of shit.

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/08/g-s1-...healthcare-ceo

This sure sounds like they have located and arrested the shooter. They would not have released his name otherwise.

Live Updates: Investigators of C.E.O.’s Killing Are Questioning a Man in Pennsylvania

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12...murder-suspect

Yeah, that's him all right. It'll be interesting to see where the media goes with this: mentally disturbed Unabomber-type, new folk hero or just a common criminal?

Most of my relatives on my father's side of the family live in the neighborhood of the McDonald's in question and my wife is from the neighborhood where the suspect went to high school. Small world.

OK. Hanging out in a McDonalds packing all the evidence? He wanted to be caught.

Can't be famous if nobody knows your name. Interestingly enough he has a lot of connections to the Maryland area.
Another question. Who plays him in the movie?

According to news reports, the shooter used a "ghost gun". Not knowing what that was, i googled it and found out it was a gun that a person puts together rather than a gun from a manufacturer.......right?
So my question is, where or how does someone get gun parts to put together a gun? Any information to educate me would be appreciated.

This is a parody of the marketing concept, as I recalled seeing in Mad Magaziine in my youth (this dates back to 1963!)....

https://www.politicalchat.org/attach...1&d=1733854532

I have also read that ghost guns can be made by 3D printing and that plans are readily available. Back in the mid 1990's there were junk guns called Saturday Night Specials assembled from junk parts that were of poor quality.

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/10/nx-s1...-ceo-ghost-gun

According to the people on this site, it's not entirely easy. You need to be handy with tools, because you can't buy receivers, the part that holds the bullet and fires it, ready to go, unless you have a Federal Firearms License. What you can buy is receivers "80 %" finished. You have to do some metalwork on them to make them able to work.

https://thegunclub.quora.com/What-gu...ped-to-my-home

;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturd...ial%20strength.


The term "Saturday night special" refers to cheap guns used in poor neighborhoods. They are usually small, of small caliber, and often unreliable or inaccurate. A single definition is not easy to come by; while legislation in the United States has tried to define them as either "unsafe" or "of no legitimate purpose", these attempts to define are problematic.[1]

The earliest known use of the term "Saturday night special" in print is in the September 29, 1917, issue of The Coffeyville Daily Journal, referring to a "cheap revolver".[3] In its August 17, 1968, issue, The New York Times printed a front-page article titled "Handgun Imports Held Up by U.S.", author Fred Graham wrote, "... cheap, small-caliber 'Saturday night specials' that are a favorite of holdup men..."[4]

The term "Saturday night special" came into wider use with the passing of the Gun Control Act of 1968 because the act banned the importation and manufacture of many inexpensive firearms, including a large number of revolvers made by Röhm Gesellschaft. With importation banned, Röhm opened a factory in Miami, Florida, and a number of companies in the United States began production of inexpensive handguns, including Raven Arms, Jennings Firearms, Phoenix Arms, Lorcin Engineering Company, Davis Industries, and Sundance Industries, which collectively came to be known as the "Ring of Fire companies".[5]

Gun ownership advocates describe legislation restricting inexpensive firearms as possibly discriminatory in origin, designed to target low income and black gun owners.[6][7][2][8] In his book Restricting Handguns: The Liberal Skeptics Speak Out, gun rights advocate Don Kates found racial overtones in the focus on the Saturday night special.[9]

I posted the above wiki description not to be a wiseass, but because in the 1960s I well remember a "Saturday Night Special" being a cheap gun that was far more likely to hit some innocent bystander VS the intended target. I never know the term went as far back as 1917......... ;)

Thanks to all for the information.

Makes sense. Smart move would have been to get as far away as possible as fast as possible.

Or, simply entitled arrogance.

I am still waiting to hear how the shooter was personally harmed by United Healthcare.

Nothing definitive, but here is some background story.

https://apnews.com/article/unitedhea...3d3fed4ea2f70d

He is in the age bracket where some highly intelligent young men slip into delusional paranoid schizophrenia.
There is no other rational reason for this situation, a decent defense could plead insanity.

And now this. Apparently the SFPD (San Fran) identified him a few days ago since he was on a missing person list. No wonder the person who identified him at McD was shortchanged from receiving the reward, not that I am certain as this being the reason. But a PD to PD/FBI notification is irrefutable.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/ar...n-19976578.php

Well, we knew it went back to at least 1975 because of the Lynyrd Skynyrd song.

Luigi hails from a wealthy family, received an enviable education at private prep schools and an Ivy League university. Not taking anything away from him, he did have the smarts to get an MS in Computer Science, an extremely difficult engineering field.

But if his family is wealthy (not just rich), wouldn't they spring for his legal defense?

Unfortunately, the intent here it seems is to make Luigi into a martyr and not surprising with health insurance companies being universally hated in the US.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2664403.html

I remembered it as a young city dweller in the 1960s as I mentioned in the rest of my post ;)

So yeah, I'm not all that surprised of Skynyrd's use of it in 75, , , it was that it went as far back as 1917 that surprised me :)