The Biggest Blunder in the History of American Politics
 

I've been avoiding this site since the election because I'm not really a fan of schadenfreude any more. I'm not into making fun of people that simply went all in believing the wrong people. Most of them will mature and see where they had erred. Heck, it happened to me in my mid-20's. Some people figure it out sooner, some later, and some never.

But I'm less forgiving if the Joy Rieds, Jack Smiths, etc. of the world. Some of them need to be prosecuted. But only a very few.

But the reason for this thread is this unbelieveably fantastic article. Of course, it may be because he's saying everything I've believed for the last 8 years, only he covers it a LOT better. He hits every single point. I recommend reading the whole thing. It is from my favorite text opinion site. And yes, I know you can only lead a horse to water. This is sort of an "integrity" check.

The Biggest Blunder in the History of American Politics

An important footnote: The very beginning has a hyperlink to the author's article from after the election of 2020, to which he sometimes refers. It's a hum-dinger as well. ;)

This should make for some good laughs, it starts out with the "stolen" election BS lol

Get Real
"overtly stealing the 2020 election", "manufactured Covid pandemonium, "thanks entirely to mail-in ballots" ???
Do you work for Mike Lindel? I don't, nor will I buy his products.
Anyone in your family die from Covid? I had a death in my family from Covid.
Trump was the one who stated that mail in ballots were fraught with fraud, convincing his crowd to vote in person.
American Thinker? More like American Stinker.

And a more "fun" take on things from another Youtube favorite of mine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cvwzY9riU0

This guy is deceptively good.

Not Insane is Not All There.
Conversing with him will drive you insane.

Exactly. Many believe it was stolen, and there is evidence to support that position. Lots of it. But Proof? little evidence is "proof". That is a horribly misused word. In a court of law, the search is not for "proof". It is for evidence.

And not much evidence is "proof".

Well, like I said, you can lead a horse to water...

Strong, with this one, the ad-hominem attack is. - Yoda.;)

I am glad I read the link. I was looking for a long time a word to fully describe Kamala and found it in the article. The word is vacuous.

Anyhow it is time you leave the bullshit about stolen election. It deprives any other argument you may have.

And yet again, the Insane Clown proves he's very much insane. Such a fool.

Its not just ad-hominem and your overuse of it reeks of insecurity.
So how about an FU to you and the mule you rode in.

Anytime you lose Dondi... https://audiokarma.org/forums/styles...ilies/lmao.gif

Well you saved me from wasting my time reading it.

Sounds like BS, 60 court case losses indicate there was zero evidence of election fraud.

It appears you have no understanding of what evidence is and is not.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...GdO/giphy.webp

Who knew Idiocracy had a young RFK in it.

See what we got to look foreword to.


They (Cult) will never learn and interacting with them only feeds their need to improve self esteem.

I only call it out when I see it. i.e. it's not MY over-use.

I'm really trying to have a discussion on the issues. I keep throwing things out there that might prime the pump, but it just never really gets any traction. Nobody want's to do any more than insult "the opposition".

And it is not lost on me that whenever a "thinking Democrat" or conservative tries to have a discussion here, they just end up walking away, leaving the same, tired circle Jerk, with me as the "loyal opposition". But even I get my fill of it sometimes. I have hope in my fellow man and I expect that the young guys here will eventually mature, as I did when I was one. I thought that article (and other things I've referenced, will sink in at least a little bit. But I suspect few people actually read any of those articles or watch any of the videos. But "few" is more than "none". So here I am.

Didja ever wonder why I'm right so often? It's not me. It's the quality of my news sources. As I've mentioned before, I dumped TV in 1997. I have news sources from all over the world with a myriad of takes on each issue, allowing me to determine the "truth" from all the facts from all the diverse sources.

Plus, way back in 1964 my 4th grade teacher taught us about press bias with an excellent exercise. It was a simple story about a man breaking into a bakery and stealing a loaf of bread. One news story was sympathetic to the bakery, and the other was sympathetic to the thief. It was a solid lesson, that a fourth grader could understand, regarding bias in the press, and how you can clean it away from the facts in a news story, regardless of the source.

And, as I used to tell my daughters when they were kids (they are all over 40 now), the press is not only biased in how they present news stories, but also in what stories they choose to report. And I, as a news consumer, get to choose what stories are important and what stories are fluff.

I love that movie! I bought it when it first came out as a testimony/reminder of where we are headed. It was very prophetic. It even seems to have a bit of DEI in it. And, "Welcome to Costco. I love you."

I talk to a couple of these gullible people everyday at work. It amazes me how intelligent people, and the ones I know are, fall for this BS.

Oh well, the cult needs to have a base I guess.

Maybe when you come here with some reasoned subject for discussion that is not misinformation and outright fantasy, you will get some reasonable discussion.

I won't hold my breath waiting for it.

It does not work. Like I mentioned "we" try to have these discussion at work, they bring it up as they know I will listen to their positions.

The civil discussion is their POV and myself and others debunking, they do not want to hear it and it always ends with us being "brain washed woke people" or something similar.

They both often site the same source and its articles as in the OP, its a very hard right leaning site for grooming disciples, it is working with the 2 guys I have known for 17 yrs. I have watched there slide down the crazy rabbit hole.

Not many of the Trump voters I lnow believe 2020 was stolen, it was all about their wallet for them.

The Biggest Blunder in the History of American Politics
 

You're a poster child for the Dunning-Kruger Effect. In summary, you're too stupid to know you're stupid. Or better yet, too insane to know you are insane.

Are you actually imagining this stuff impresses anyone? The same tired group here sees right through you, that's why you lost all the traction you gained initially here.

You try to put fascism over with a sea-lion tactics, just going a bit over the line. But if you can prosecute Jack Smith, you can do anything, and you will.

Sorry I spoke to you half-way reasonably just now. You are a shill for political murder, and worse.

Are you right so often? Last I checked you were still peddling the 2020 stolen election theory, yet could not respond as to why then 60 lawsuits filed were lost.

If you keep repeating to yourself "I am smart", or better yet "I am the smartest", who is to argue against you since only you can hear what you are saying. Eventually you believe this to be true since you hear it so often.

Same goes for your being right all the time, its not your news sources since we all have access to information in general, its you talking to yourself.

Just go back and look at any of the threads started by this moron, like his idiot Ivermectin one (though he still believes the nonsense he spouted there). They've all come to nothing, and he's been shown to be full of BS every time. His "quality" news sources must include InfoWars.

I know, I have had the same with a few here, It's impossible the reason with the unreasonable.

"Trump will Fix It", believe that was one of his campaign slogans. Wonder what he will fix and how.

Economy was recovering nicely, needed more time to stabilize before the interest rates came down. Even the when the rates came down a bit, mortgage rates did not make a move. So what is Trump going to do to "fix' the economy which did not need any fixing?

Tariffs! Unfortunately he will be forced to impose even more tariffs if only to balance the tax cuts that the most fortunate among us are anticipating. Inflation and high interest rates will persist. So much for fixing the economy.

Illegal immigration from the southern border and this is something the Congress and presidents have been kicking around since the 80's. Remember Reagan's Amnesty program, which in effect increased the traffic until it became unmanageable. Even deportations could not keep up with the inflow. What is Trump going to do? Deport every illegal living in this country and can someone tell me how? Panic and chaos will ensue, but the problem will still persist because most if not all of them get somehow gainfully employed.

I pretty much swore off cable news a couple of years back, so I haven't seen any of their post-mortems of the election. But I just watched Bill Maher's show from last night and his "New Rules" segment nails it perfectly IMO. It's worth 8 minutes of your time. Enjoy a good laugh (and cry).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtCK-dMb-F8

Whatever the felon wrecks he'll blame someone else and his worshipper's will believe it. We've all seen this before.

Geeze you still have this idea about a great economy. It greatness is inflation masquerading as growth. The compliant Civil servants over the years have been revising and manipulating the CPI in favor of the corporate and stock market class. They have been massaging the jobs report.
The markers to look for are the real price to access education, transportation and shelter. Symptoms are pervasive massive debts. Trump realized the angst and played to it. But he is just noise. I remember the first time he was running he complained that the economic numbers were bogus. However as soon as he got power he claimed the said numbers...WTF.
Tariff as a method is inevitable largely because of China's ever increasing efficiency. However this large deportation proposed is nonesense and will be made impractical by employers. Trump’s immigration proposals operate from racist impulse and are not based on common sense economics. There are 10 million working age Americans who have voluntarily withdrawn from the workforce; immigrants are needed.

It is not yet clear to me whose century this is, but what IS clear is that it ain't the American one anymore.

I did not claim a great economy, only that it was recovering nicely post pandemic supply chain issues which is what contributed to our inflation beginning 2021. Also there was significant price gouging going on which no one seemed to know what to do. If I as a businessperson can sit on a six month back log for a handful of years, why would I increase output? Guaranteed business at high profit margins, this is a wet dream for businesses. Unfortunately Biden got blamed as if he could have done a damn thing.

And you have been harping on their job numbers report for quite a while. Are you claiming that Biden's administration is cooking job numbers to make themselves look good and this will go unchallenged. I don't mean MAGA noise makers, but statisticians and financial analysts.

And what do you think the next round of Oligarch tax cuts is going to do to our deficits while making the previous ones permanent? How can you lower taxes without matching tax revenues?

Ah, enter the tariffs which the goobers believe China will pay for like Mexico paying for the wall. No country can or will replace China in the short term as the world's supplier and doubt America wants to bring back manufacturing to our shores. Cost and labor shortages are the main impediments. So all this is lip service. Tariffs are to pay for the tax cuts, nothing to do with damaging China's economy or dominance. This is why I believe Biden had to keep the Trump tariffs in place for four years.

In the interim I predict that Trump, his cronies or worse, Vance and his cronies will rob the treasury to their hearts content and nothing can or will be done. The rest of the country will suffer including those who put them in the drivers seat.

We can't even do a two year plan it seems. Where China Russia along with pretty much every other country planning for the next 50 to 100 years.

The US companies are planning ahead, getting prepared for the years to follow. Will they show loyalty to this country? I doubt it, have not shown to be interested in anything but taking.....

I am not just referring to the Biden admin but admins of whatever Stripe. The civil servants over the years have been f**king with the methodologies to determine unemployment and CPI. Why do they behave in such a manner? I guess to curry favor with the incumbent and also to appease the corporate and stock market class.
Of late abetted by msm there were huge fanfares on the job numbers which were quietly and consistently revised downwards- hardly upwards. And notice I used the term - massage.

Note: The post below is one I formatted a few days ago but somehow had never posted. It may be dated at this point, but here you go...
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Here is some evidence. https://thenewamerican.com/us/crime/...th-or-reality/

What you will find if you google it is tons and tons of MSM sources "debunking" voter fraud claims. But then, they are also the sources that were pushing for Kamala in this last election cycle. In fact, as the article I posted points out. The biggest loser in this last election cycle is the reputation of the MSM. And it's about time.

There are many other sources of evidence, but they are hard to find, because they typically don't have the following of the MSM, but that is obviously changing.

Thing is, if you can "fudge" the CPI to a lower level and then apply any increases in things like Social Security on that, over time you can significantly reduce social security benefits - relative to the REAL cost of living. That is why my main "plan" for retirement was not to have a lot of money, but to have zero debt, own my own home, and live in a place where property taxes are low.

So here I am on 32 acres of beautiful forest and lawns and streams, with a home and large insulated shop/mancave, four cars, and my monthly cost of
living is half my monthly SS checks.

And we have only four hens that produce three times the eggs we need, and we split a beef with our neighbors as needed for all the beef we can eat at about $5 a pound, and they are all about as organic as you can get. And our property taxes are the price of a loaded medium pizza every month.

BTW, we pay zero income tax because our "taxable" income is so low. The utter freedom and sense of control over your own life that that brings is something I never saw coming. I feel more free than I have my entire life. It's almost tangible.

And if we need a few thousand here or there, we just sell a few trees to local lumber mills and they take them down and cart them away. And the last time we did that we ened up with some really excellent trails on our property that can handle a side-by-side.

And our state has nice, strict voter ID laws so naturally the area is about as red as you can get. :D

i.e. we're prepared for SS checks to continue to effectively decline, but we're 70, so we only have to hold out for so long...:cool:

In what state do you live?

Clearly he lives in the state of Denial.

A state of delusion most likely aka Floriduh or nearby.:rolleyes:

His profile sez lower Kentuckistan...

Oklahoma Opens Office of Religious Liberty and Patriotism
The taxpayer-funded office will investigate cases where religious freedom is trampled on while the state implements biblical study into the curriculum.
https://reason.com/2024/11/15/oklaho...nd-patriotism/

Completely unconstitutional, of course, but would be paradise for morons like the Insane Clown.

Meanwhile here in Ohio, an award-winning HS principal and President of Ohio Association of Secondary School Administrators, no less, has been put on leave for putting out a careful statement after the election that dared to say that diversity would be supported and all students would be safe.

Spurred-on by the usual right-wing media feeding frenzy, some in the district want the head of the 'crazy liberal.'

https://www.dispatch.com/story/opini...r/76308039007/