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Noogies 05-30-2024 04:47 PM

Guilty, guilty, guilty ... !
 
Guilty × 34!

Oerets 05-30-2024 04:54 PM

And they will still vote for him!

Noogies 05-30-2024 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 429249)
And they will still vote for him!

Yep. Might actually improve his chances.

Oerets 05-30-2024 05:03 PM

I gave up thinking the cult will see the light long ago.

RickeyM 05-30-2024 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Noogies (Post 429251)
Yep. Might actually improve his chances.

Because most voters think he was guilty as charged? Rumpy said Black voters would identify with him because he as indicted. I guess he thinks they love him now because he's convicted.

RickeyM 05-30-2024 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 429249)
And they will still vote for him!

He said he could stand on a corner of 5th ave., shoot someone and not lose any voters so what's a little felony conviction among the faithful?

NipperDog 05-30-2024 06:32 PM

I finally have a reason to use the word comeuppance in a sentence.

Noogies 05-30-2024 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NipperDog (Post 429259)
I finally have a reason to use the word comeuppance in a sentence.

Yes, Trump gets his now; we'll get ours in November.

Pio1980 05-30-2024 08:44 PM

Time to break out the bubbly?

Noogies 05-30-2024 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 429264)
Time to break out the bubbly?

Too early. Keep it until November. Regardless of what happens , you'll probably want a drink.

Oerets 05-31-2024 06:05 AM

https://media1.tenor.com/m/XHuLACz-J...ock-him-up.gif

GChief 05-31-2024 06:56 AM

Unfortunately felonies are not a disqualifier.

RickeyM 05-31-2024 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 429268)

If Joe were to even simply nominate Hillary for a seat on the bench MAGA heads would explode. The Mt. Saint Helens eruption/explosion would in comparison seem like a cork pop.

Rajoo 05-31-2024 09:30 AM

Its prudent not to energize the deplorables now just before the elections. The electorate is extremely ill informed, mega donors have lined up behind the Felon and Biden is not helping his own cause any.

But 34 Guilty verdicts did sound very soothing, but short lived.

Noogies 05-31-2024 09:34 AM

Talk about energizing: apparently the campaign website crashed due to "an influx of contributors".

Noogies 05-31-2024 10:05 AM

34 million and change so far since yesterday from "small contributors". $1 million for each count he was convicted on.

RickeyM 05-31-2024 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 429276)
Its prudent not to energize the deplorables now just before the elections. The electorate is extremely ill informed, mega donors have lined up behind the Felon and Biden is not helping his own cause any.

But 34 Guilty verdicts did sound very soothing, but short lived.

The deplorables are already about as energized as they can get. Any more and they're liable to stroke out. Some of them could however resort to violence which wouldn't do the cause any good. The first presidential debate just got a whole lot more interesting tho'.

BlueStreak 05-31-2024 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 429252)
I gave up thinking the cult will see the light long ago.

A man recently told me he HATES Trump "with a passion" but, intends to vote for him, "...no matter what..." because............ "....gays, pedophiles and other sex perverts are tearing this country apart.".

WTF? I don't get how he comes to that conclusion.

BlueStreak 05-31-2024 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Noogies (Post 429278)
34 million and change so far since yesterday from "small contributors". $1 million for each count he was convicted on.

I thought he was a billionaire who needed financial help from no one?
Interesting.

BlueStreak 05-31-2024 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 429280)
The deplorables are already about as energized as they can get. Any more and they're liable to stroke out. Some of them could however resort to violence which wouldn't do the cause any good. The first presidential debate just got a whole lot more interesting tho'.

I'm hoping they will off themselves in a mass suicide. Sure, the mess and the stench will be horrendous for a while, but will we even miss them? I won't, that's for sure.

GChief 05-31-2024 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 429283)
A man recently told me he HATES Trump "with a passion" but, intends to vote for him, "...no matter what..." because............ "....gays, pedophiles and other sex perverts are tearing this country apart.".

WTF? I don't get how he comes to that conclusion.

Being a fellow Buckeye, now that you are back there, you will be hearing more of that crap.

Oerets 05-31-2024 02:01 PM

These idiots will not stop willingly by themselves.

They relish blowing it up never thinking the consequences. Like no milk eggs gas meds SS checks .......jobs... ATM working.... Radio TV .... internet cell phone!!!

Nihilism runs strong in them!

BlueStreak 05-31-2024 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GChief (Post 429287)
Being a fellow Buckeye, now that you are back there, you will be hearing more of that crap.

Oh, yes, I know and I have been. What is really annoying is that people think Ohio is a blue state. It's not and it never really has been. Ohio has produced more presidents than any other state and all of them Republicans, some of them horrendously corrupt and/or incompetent. But, anyhow... I'm sure you already know this.

If you truly want to ruin everything, let Ohio Republicans run the show. Fu**ing up everything they touch and blaming others is the only thing they truly excel at.

Noogies 05-31-2024 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 429285)
I thought he was a billionaire who needed financial help from no one?

That was before the deep state conspired to smear his good name and drain all his fortune into the lawyers' pockets.

Noogies 05-31-2024 07:04 PM

The alarming thing to consider, at least for me, is the possibility that by November all the sane people will be so fatigued by Trump saturation and its attendant political overload that many of them will be too apathetic to show up at the polls, leaving the fate of the country to an enthusiastic but deranged MAGA crowd.

Chicks 06-01-2024 09:40 AM

https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...og&oe=6660F17B

donquixote99 06-01-2024 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 429283)
A man recently told me he HATES Trump "with a passion" but, intends to vote for him, "...no matter what..." because............ "....gays, pedophiles and other sex perverts are tearing this country apart.".

WTF? I don't get how he comes to that conclusion.

Moral panic, induced by propaganda.

Oerets 06-01-2024 10:16 AM

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Love this one.

RickeyM 06-01-2024 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 429302)
Moral panic, induced by propaganda.

The Reich-wing propaganda apparatus is second to none.

bobabode 06-01-2024 01:09 PM

Adam Kinzinger weighs in. https://www.thebulwark.com/p/trump-c...ad-day-america

RickeyM 06-02-2024 11:13 AM

First Don-the-Con tries to destroy our faith in our elections. Now he's trying to destroy our faith in the judicial system.

https://i.imgflip.com/29a5br.jpg

Pio1980 06-03-2024 06:51 AM

Martha Stewart got prison time on her first fraud conviction for much less.
"It's sooo unfair!!!"
Worn-out whiny baby-man one liner on replay.

Rajoo 06-03-2024 11:13 AM

My concern is that this conviction may be overturned on appeal on the grounds that AG Bragg's felony indictment based on "another crime" is an overreach. Whether this is done at the appellate level or by the Scotus is unknown. But if I am betting, the Scotus will overturn the felony conviction. Question remains, will Trump make an emergency appeal to the Catholic Court and will they take it up?

finnbow 06-03-2024 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 429316)
My concern is that this conviction may be overturned on appeal on the grounds that AG Bragg's felony indictment based on "another crime" is an overreach. Whether this is done at the appellate level or by the Scotus is unknown. But if I am betting, the Scotus will overturn the felony conviction. Question remains, will Trump make an emergency appeal to the Catholic Court and will they take it up?

I think the conviction is solid. NY law is clear that one does not need to prosecute the predicate crime, only that the fraudulent bookkeeping is done with the intent of concealing or committing another crime. Similarly, in order to charge/prosecute assault with intent to kill, the victim need not have been killed by the assailant, only that he intended (unsuccessfully) to do so.

Chicks 06-03-2024 02:21 PM

I wouldn't be too sure. The Federalists / Libertarians are really, really pissed, and there are several of their ilk, unfortunately, sitting at SCOTUS. They are interpreting this as a violation of federal law...

https://reason.com/volokh/2024/06/03...s-convictions/

RickeyM 06-03-2024 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 429318)
I wouldn't be too sure. The Federalists / Libertarians are really, really pissed, and there are several of their ilk, unfortunately, sitting at SCOTUS. They are interpreting this as a violation of federal law...

https://reason.com/volokh/2024/06/03...s-convictions/

Say Conald loses the election and faces (at least) three more court (felony) cases. Will the SC put their fingers on the scale of justice in all three. Two cases if Judge "Loose" Cannon finds a way to scuttle the documents case in FL.

donquixote99 06-03-2024 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 429316)
My concern is that this conviction may be overturned on appeal on the grounds that AG Bragg's felony indictment based on "another crime" is an overreach. Whether this is done at the appellate level or by the Scotus is unknown. But if I am betting, the Scotus will overturn the felony conviction. Question remains, will Trump make an emergency appeal to the Catholic Court and will they take it up?

To get to the Supreme court on the case, one needs a federal constitutional issue. Or a federal constitutional pretext, anyway. I'd be very surprised if there was one that a non-corrupt court would entertain for one minute, but they can appeal up to the Supreme Court anyway....

Rajoo 06-04-2024 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 429321)
To get to the Supreme court on the case, one needs a federal constitutional issue. Or a federal constitutional pretext, anyway. I'd be very surprised if there was one that a non-corrupt court would entertain for one minute, but they can appeal up to the Supreme Court anyway....

The fact that the Alito-Thomas court took up Trump's executive immunity case is what makes me suspicious that they can and will meddle. Its not just the MAGA cult who wants Trump to be #47, its also the 0.1%'ers, aka the mega billionaires.

Rajoo 06-04-2024 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 429317)
I think the conviction is solid. NY law is clear that one does not need to prosecute the predicate crime, only that the fraudulent bookkeeping is done with the intent of concealing or committing another crime. Similarly, in order to charge/prosecute assault with intent to kill, the victim need not have been killed by the assailant, only that he intended (unsuccessfully) to do so.

There was no earthly reason for the S-Court to take up Trump's immunity claim either, but they did. Was it just a stalling tactic or will there be a watered down executive immunity granted just for show, a power trip. Its due by end of this month. This court is extremely political and not even trying to hide it. Mrs. Alito seems to be just as much a basket case and a loose cannon as Ginny Thomas.

Noogies 06-04-2024 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 429316)
My concern is that this conviction may be overturned on appeal on the grounds that AG Bragg's felony indictment based on "another crime" is an overreach. Whether this is done at the appellate level or by the Scotus is unknown. But if I am betting, the Scotus will overturn the felony conviction.

I have assumed all along that's what will happen.


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