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Chicks 12-28-2023 06:18 PM

Maine’s top election official removes Trump from 2024 ballot
 
Maine’s top election official removes Trump from 2024 ballot
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/28/polit...lot/index.html

Just say "NO!" to insurrectionists.

bobabode 12-28-2023 08:25 PM

That's two, now. We're going to need a lot more dominoes falling before this'll stick, though.

RickeyM 12-28-2023 10:24 PM

Even if Diaper Don had not loosed the mob on the Capitol with the intent of stopping or preventing the certification had he not told them to, let alone come to the capitol that day to "stop the steal", they would not have marched on the Capitol and rioted.
PS, I want to know who's responsible for the gallows being there?

Oerets 12-29-2023 06:07 AM

Having decided to accept that the SCOTUS will be the final word on this issue. Weeks months away now from being decided.
Is not a clear turning point.
My prediction is from October to this time next year going into January will be a time filed with extreme turmoil. The smelly former guy will be getting his minions fired up and out in mass. Knowing full well that for him and his enabling henchman it is do or go to jail time.

finnbow 12-29-2023 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 426851)
Even if Diaper Don had not loosed the mob on the Capitol with the intent of stopping or preventing the certification had he not told them to, let alone come to the capitol that day to "stop the steal", they would not have marched on the Capitol and rioted.
PS, I want to know who's responsible for the gallows being there?

I'm more interested in who placed the two bombs outside of both National Committee headquarters.

Chicks 12-29-2023 09:32 AM

John Dean: ‘Trump’s in trouble’ after Maine ruling
https://thehill.com/regulation/court...ng-in-trouble/

Quote:

Dean said he doesn’t think the Supreme Court would go against either decision, citing a plain reading of the amendment’s text.

“I want to see those strict constructionist and originalists get around that language,” he said. “How are they going to do it? I don’t know. It looks so applicable. I don’t know what they can do with it other than take [Trump] off the ballot.”
Well, it all depends on just how loyal Thomas and Alito are to their billionaire enablers vs the Constitution, and whether those billionaire enablers are finally done with Donny. Fingers crossed...

donquixote99 12-29-2023 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 426851)
Even if Diaper Don had not loosed the mob on the Capitol with the intent of stopping or preventing the certification had he not told them to, let alone come to the capitol that day to "stop the steal", they would not have marched on the Capitol and rioted.
PS, I want to know who's responsible for the gallows being there?

Agree. The gallows were planned and transported and set-up, and there was buzz about executing various targets. Points to a particularly sharp branch of the conspiracy, including conspiracy to committ murder. Should have been a priority investigative target.

donquixote99 12-29-2023 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 426854)
I'm more interested in who placed the two bombs outside of both National Committee headquarters.

Another very serious matter.

Rajoo 12-29-2023 11:33 AM

Arguments I have read elsewhere is that the Maine SoS Bellows made her decision based on the J6 committee hearings, not on evidence gathered by AG Jack Smith. This then could be used as an excuse by the current GOP House members on their impeachment quest to bar Biden from red states. What happens then? Supreme court has to weigh in again as the clock keeps ticking and Trump will still be on the ballot since the decisions are stayed?

Do committee hearings have legal standing? No, since they make referrals to the AG for action.

Oerets 12-29-2023 11:42 AM

Without a final ruling from the court on a federal level. Allowing a state by state decision will only increase the divisions in the country.

RickeyM 12-30-2023 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 426854)
I'm more interested in who placed the two bombs outside of both National Committee headquarters.

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 426858)
Another very serious matter.

Had the explosives detonated each party would have been pointing fingers at the other. As they say in mysteries, who benefits the most? Someone that wishes both sides remain hostile to each other but who?
Something else was afoot. Something other than the mob sic'd on the House members at the Capitol.

finnbow 12-30-2023 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 426865)
Had the explosives detonated each party would have been pointing fingers at the other. As they say in mysteries, who benefits the most? Someone that wishes both sides remain hostile to each other but who?
Something else was afoot. Something other than the mob sic'd on the House members at the Capitol.

Unclear. What is clear is that the MAGA bunch hates the "establishment" and the two national committees definitely represent what they consider to be the "establishment."

donquixote99 12-30-2023 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 426865)
Had the explosives detonated each party would have been pointing fingers at the other. As they say in mysteries, who benefits the most? Someone that wishes both sides remain hostile to each other but who?
Something else was afoot. Something other than the mob sic'd on the House members at the Capitol.

Don't necessarily think the game was that deep. These guys aren't as clever as they think they are, and are biased toward violence. Distraction and confusion were the main ideas here I think. Tie up police assets and muddy the narrative about who was behind it.

Rajoo 12-30-2023 12:28 PM

With Trump getting booted out in both Colorado and Maine, the SCOTUS needs to hand down a ruling on the following.

1. Was the second impeachment of Trump for causing an insurrection and found not guilty legally the last word? An impeachment is a political action, not a judicial one so I do not see how this will pass muster. But McConnel thought otherwise.

2. Do presidents have absolute immunity, which amounts to unlimited power? And if so, can't they pardon themselves to avoid any legal culpability?

Perhaps an oversimplification, but that's the way I see it.

And as Ricky has mentioned, a favorable decision in either for Trump will then grant the same power to Biden. If they do, I will advise Biden to dissolve the SCOTUS first. In an autocracy, who needs them.

RickeyM 12-30-2023 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 426869)
With Trump getting booted out in both Colorado and Maine, the SCOTUS needs to hand down a ruling on the following.

1. Was the second impeachment of Trump for causing an insurrection and found not guilty legally the last word? An impeachment is a political action, not a judicial one so I do not see how this will pass muster. But McConnel thought otherwise.

2. Do presidents have absolute immunity, which amounts to unlimited power? And if so, can't they pardon themselves to avoid any legal culpability?

Perhaps an oversimplification, but that's the way I see it.

And as Ricky has mentioned, a favorable decision in either for Trump will then grant the same power to Biden. If they do, I will advise Biden to dissolve the SCOTUS first. In an autocracy, who needs them.

Sounds like a plan https://audiokarma.org/forums/styles...es/beatnik.gif

RickeyM 01-03-2024 11:55 PM

Anyone else notice that none of Donny's enablers will say he's not guilty of an insurrection just that he shouldn't be removed from any states ballots because of it.

Oerets 01-04-2024 05:35 AM

How would the arguments go if Obama was to announce he is running again?
The 14th amendment verses the 22nd.....

One is overlooked what of the other?


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