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Write-in24 09-05-2023 08:35 AM

Write-in Ballots for President
 
The options for US voters are NOT limited to Biden, Trump, or an unelectable 3rd party. A write-in candidate is a viable option!

This website provides information and a collaboration platform:
https://www.write-in24.org

Here is a short (4 questions) poll regarding write-in voting:
https://www.allcounted.com/s?did=goo...491&lang=en_US

RickeyM 09-05-2023 08:40 AM

How to say waste your vote without saying waste your vote.

Human 09-05-2023 08:41 AM

This is a terrible idea.

donquixote99 09-05-2023 08:46 AM

Just another scheme to divert votes from Biden.

Rajoo 09-05-2023 10:16 AM

Bad idea, not every state allows write-in candidates.
Interestingly I could not find any info on the group write-in24.org, though the site is active. Perhaps very new.

Oerets 09-05-2023 10:21 AM

Maybe it a way assure being able to vote for Trump if not on the Ballot?

Pio1980 09-05-2023 10:42 AM

Just, NO!

Write-in24 09-05-2023 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 423502)
Bad idea, not every state allows write-in candidates.
Interestingly I could not find any info on the group write-in24.org, though the site is active. Perhaps very new.

The information on the website acknowledges that 8 states do not permit write-in candidates, however the other 42 states represent more than enough electoral college votes to elect the President.

Write-in24 09-05-2023 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 423504)
Maybe it a way assure being able to vote for Trump if not on the Ballot?

More importantly, it provides a means to elect a President by acclamation, despite having Biden and Trump on the ballot.

Rajoo 09-05-2023 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Write-in24 (Post 423507)
The information on the website acknowledges that 8 states do not permit write-in candidates, however the other 42 states represent more than enough electoral college votes to elect the President.

Nothing new. I wrote in for President in 2016. There is a space in the ballot.
Why do we need to be educated on this now?

Rajoo 09-05-2023 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 423505)
Just, NO!

I second that.

Write-in24 09-05-2023 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 423509)
Nothing new. I wrote in for President in 2016. There is a space in the ballot.
Why do we need to be educated on this now?

You're missing the point completely. (Probably you didn't bother reading anything on the website.) The point is this, the website provides a platform (similar to this discussion board) for voters to caucus with other voters in their own state to write-in the name of a candidate with a significant number of votes. When a few thousand people write in Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, or the names of close friends, then the ballots are wasted. If they all decide to write in the name of a recognized leader, then ...

RickeyM 09-05-2023 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Write-in24 (Post 423508)
More importantly, it provides a means to elect a President by acclamation, despite having Biden and Trump on the ballot.

Yeah, that'll work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 423495)
Just another scheme to divert votes from Biden.

Likely

finnbow 09-05-2023 01:39 PM

Write-in Ballots for President
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Write-in24 (Post 423512)
You're missing the point completely. (Probably you didn't bother reading anything on the website.) The point is this, the website provides a platform (similar to this discussion board) for voters to caucus with other voters in their own state to write-in the name of a candidate with a significant number of votes. When a few thousand people write in Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, or the names of close friends, then the ballots are wasted. If they all decide to write in the name of a recognized leader, then ...

- they are still wasted.

Write-in24 09-05-2023 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 423518)
- they are still wasted.

If a significant number of voters elect a candidate by writing in the name, how exactly are they "wasted"?

RickeyM 09-05-2023 02:40 PM

Because at this time it will never happen. A third party candidate just won't marshal up enough support to win the office. IMO none of the current crop of Repubs should be allowed anywhere near the WH and any vote not for Biden is a vote for tRump, or whomever the Repub candidate turns out to be.

donquixote99 09-05-2023 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Write-in24 (Post 423519)
If a significant number of voters elect a candidate by writing in the name, how exactly are they "wasted"?

Hah. I say they are worse than wasted. The main people attracted to this possibility are Republicans and independents who are not now willing to support Trump, but who don't like Biden either. Some of these voters would decide defeating Trump was important enough that they needed to vote for Biden. Every one of such persons who vote for a third party or a write-in is one less vote for Biden, and that HELPS TRUMP WIN. Which is worse than wasting a vote.

bobabode 09-05-2023 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Write-in24 (Post 423519)
If a significant number of voters elect a candidate by writing in the name, how exactly are they "wasted"?

I'd like to see who is funding this pet project of yours.

Write-in24 09-05-2023 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 423520)
Because at this time it will never happen. A third party candidate just won't marshal up enough support to win the office. IMO none of the current crop of Repubs should be allowed anywhere near the WH and any vote not for Biden is a vote for tRump, or whomever the Repub candidate turns out to be.

Why are you equating a write-in candidate with a third-party candidate?

Write-in24 09-05-2023 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 423522)
I'd like to see who is funding this pet project of yours.

That's an easy one: me. So far I've spent about $200 on the website. I see no additional expenses on the horizon, nor do I see any revenue, since membership is free.

Write-in24 09-05-2023 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 423521)
Hah. I say they are worse than wasted. The main people attracted to this possibility are Republicans and independents who are not now willing to support Trump, but who don't like Biden either. Some of these voters would decide defeating Trump was important enough that they needed to vote for Biden. Every one of such persons who vote for a third party or a write-in is one less vote for Biden, and that HELPS TRUMP WIN. Which is worse than wasting a vote.

I can see you're one of those lesser-of-two-evils voter. You assume either an R or a D must one, and you see the D as preferable. I propose an informed electorate can self-organize around a write-in candidate and consign the national duopoly to the dumpster, where it belongs.

Rajoo 09-05-2023 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Write-in24 (Post 423525)
I can see you're one of those lesser-of-two-evils voter. You assume either an R or a D must one, and you see the D as preferable. I propose an informed electorate can self-organize around a write-in candidate and consign the national duopoly to the dumpster, where it belongs.

It may belong in the dumpster, but it will take serious money to dispatch them there. Ever heard of Citizens United and "Corporations are people too"? Besides the money, it will also require major organization and guess what?

Between the two major parties they have this gamed, Left, Right and Center.
No more Ross Perot's.

Oerets 09-05-2023 03:51 PM

Write In Votes, No Labels ect.....


Pie in the sky, wishful thinking on the part of naive voters into thinking they can change or improve our current system.

Being used by those who wish to grantee a Trump victory.

Any who votes for a Republican or third party choice is just as guilty as those behind the the take over the country. Along with the results to come afterwards.

There will be no safe place saying your a MAGA Christian ect....

donquixote99 09-05-2023 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Write-in24 (Post 423525)
I can see you're one of those lesser-of-two-evils voter. You assume either an R or a D must one, and you see the D as preferable. I propose an informed electorate can self-organize around a write-in candidate and consign the national duopoly to the dumpster, where it belongs.

It's not an assumption, it's a political reality. Basically, in any race it's going to be liberals vs conservatives. If one side sticks together, and the other splits it's votes among two or more candidates, the stick-togethers are going to win. This is why a winner-take-all system is generally going to wind up with two major parties, and it's why third parties in such a system die sooner or later, of win starvation. I can see a goal of replacing the GOP, which has gone fascist, with a reasonable conservative party. We very much need one of those. Maybe you could help identify a good leader for one with your movement. That could make sense.

I am pleased to have your assurance that this is your own grass-roots project, and not a GOP trick. On that basis, I no longer see this doing much harm.

Human 09-05-2023 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Write-in24 (Post 423512)
You're missing the point completely. (Probably you didn't bother reading anything on the website.) The point is this, the website provides a platform (similar to this discussion board) for voters to caucus with other voters in their own state to write-in the name of a candidate with a significant number of votes. When a few thousand people write in Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, or the names of close friends, then the ballots are wasted. If they all decide to write in the name of a recognized leader, then ...

You know, most of us here have been around long enough to know exactly what happens when enough people do what you are proposing (Hint: it isn’t the write in person winning)

So, in short, we know better.

Again, terrible idea.

Oerets 09-05-2023 05:54 PM

It will not be a race of liberals vs conservatives.

Do not fool yourself.

No, rather one of rights and freedom V control and subjugation!

Write-in24 09-05-2023 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 423526)
It may belong in the dumpster, but it will take serious money to dispatch them there. Ever heard of Citizens United and "Corporations are people too"? Besides the money, it will also require major organization and guess what?

Between the two major parties they have this gamed, Left, Right and Center.
bNo more Ross Perot's.

You haven't lost until you've quit trying.

Write-in24 09-05-2023 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 423528)
Write In Votes, No Labels ect.....


Pie in the sky, wishful thinking on the part of naive voters into thinking they can change or improve our current system.

Being used by those who wish to grantee a Trump victory.

Any who votes for a Republican or third party choice is just as guilty as those behind the the take over the country. Along with the results to come afterwards.

There will be no safe place saying your a MAGA Christian ect....

Exactly, don't waste time with third parties... caucus and rally around a write-in!

Write-in24 09-05-2023 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 423529)
It's not an assumption, it's a political reality. Basically, in any race it's going to be liberals vs conservatives. If one side sticks together, and the other splits it's votes among two or more candidates, the stick-togethers are going to win. This is why a winner-take-all system is generally going to wind up with two major parties, and it's why third parties in such a system die sooner or later, of win starvation. I can see a goal of replacing the GOP, which has gone fascist, with a reasonable conservative party. We very much need one of those. Maybe you could help identify a good leader for one with your movement. That could make sense.

I am pleased to have your assurance that this is your own grass-roots project, and not a GOP trick. On that basis, I no longer see this doing much harm.

Correct, I am personally and independent and I am pursuing this "experiment" because all the polling suggests it will be a re-run of 2020 AND the polling indicates the majority of registered voters don't want either of those bums.

Write-in24 09-05-2023 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Human (Post 423530)
You know, most of us here have been around long enough to know exactly what happens when enough people do what you are proposing (Hint: it isn’t the write in person winning)

So, in short, we know better.

Again, terrible idea.

It may be a terrible idea, but it's not nearly as bad as re-electing Biden or Trump!

Write-in24 09-05-2023 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 423536)
It will not be a race of liberals vs conservatives.

Do not fool yourself.

No, rather one of rights and freedom V control and subjugation!

At the moment, all polling suggests it will be d-bag vs d-bag (again).

Rajoo 09-05-2023 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Write-in24 (Post 423539)
Correct, I am personally and independent and I am pursuing this "experiment" because all the polling suggests it will be a re-run of 2020 AND the polling indicates the majority of registered voters don't want either of those bums.

I would not call President a bum, not now not ever.

He has served in Congress for decades and then President Obama's VP and now President. If any of his policies bother you, by all means. But I do resent anyone calling him a bum even after making allowances to your 1A rights.

He has done an exceptional job leading the country under the circumstances with a Catholic SCOTUS, a deadlocked Senate and a totally dysfunctional House.

Rajoo 09-05-2023 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Write-in24 (Post 423541)
At the moment, all polling suggests it will be d-bag vs d-bag (again).

Then why don't you write in whom you want like I did and accept the push back as an idiotic idea that has little to no merit. If the write-ins are not allowed in nine states, then at best your write-in vote counts as 0.8, not 1 vote.

RickeyM 09-05-2023 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Write-in24 (Post 423523)
Why are you equating a write-in candidate with a third-party candidate?

Reply to the rest of my statement and I'll tell you why.

RickeyM 09-05-2023 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Write-in24 (Post 423538)
Exactly, don't waste time with third parties... caucus and rally around a write-in!

So who's name would you chose to "write in"?

Rajoo 09-05-2023 08:52 PM

"Baby Yoda," "Batman," "None of the Above" Among Florida Voters's Presidential Picks

https://s7d2.scene7.com/is/image/TWC...=703&$wide-bg$

donquixote99 09-05-2023 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 423536)
It will not be a race of liberals vs conservatives.

Do not fool yourself.

No, rather one of rights and freedom V control and subjugation!

Yes, 'liberals vs conservatives' way overnormalizes things this time. I accept your correction.

donquixote99 09-05-2023 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Write-in24 (Post 423539)
Correct, I am personally and independent and I am pursuing this "experiment" because all the polling suggests it will be a re-run of 2020 AND the polling indicates the majority of registered voters don't want either of those bums.

Don't know what about Biden turns you off so strongly that you cannot prefer him overwhelmingly to a ignorant dishonest lying narcissist racist asshole. Can you tell me?

Write-in24 09-06-2023 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 423543)
I would not call President a bum, not now not ever.

He has served in Congress for decades and then President Obama's VP and now President. If any of his policies bother you, by all means. But I do resent anyone calling him a bum even after making allowances to your 1A rights.

He has done an exceptional job leading the country under the circumstances with a Catholic SCOTUS, a deadlocked Senate and a totally dysfunctional House.

Yeah, but he's still a bum.

Write-in24 09-06-2023 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 423544)
Then why don't you write in whom you want like I did and accept the push back as an idiotic idea that has little to no merit. If the write-ins are not allowed in nine states, then at best your write-in vote counts as 0.8, not 1 vote.

Dude, you need to get educated. The write-in ballot option is available to voters in forty-one states. Those states account for 484 of the total 538 electoral college votes. A candidate for US President must receive at least 270 electoral college votes in order to be elected. A write-in candidate chosen by the American voters, rather than by a political party, is therefore capable of being elected President.


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