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Ike Bana 07-10-2023 07:56 AM

DeSantis the Fascist Strategy
 
DeSantis has decided that the only chance he has of grabbing the GOP nomination is to pitch himself as the most ridiculous fascist homophobic/transphobic asshole in the history of American politics.

Ron DeSantis’s Only Hope Is to Beat Trump From the Hard Right: A theory of the governor’s ever-more-radical positions
By Yair Rosenberg

RickeyM 07-10-2023 08:14 AM

Right now Meatball is a big fish in a small gerrymandered pond. If by some happenstance he got the nomination does he really think he can take his show nationwide?

Ike Bana 07-10-2023 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 421090)
Right now Meatball is a big fish in a small gerrymandered pond. If by some happenstance he got the nomination does he really think he can take his show nationwide?

Unless the GOP can be successful at voter supression to an extreme degree, presidential election history over the last three decades
says they will never win another popular vote. Regardless of who might be the Democratic nominee. If Hillary Clinton could win the popular vote with so much "Hillary Hate" in this country...what Democrat is going to lose the popular vote? And...

These 6 states will determine the 2024 presidential election

The Democratic candidate has won seven of the last eight popular presidential votes. Bush won in 2004 because his people were able to stoke Islamic fear in the ignorant electorate and...the Democrats gave the nomination to Lerch.

finnbow 07-11-2023 07:58 AM

A growing number of conventions and conferences are refusing to hold events in Florida in response to the state’s political climate, as Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis and state lawmakers’ controversial policies involving LGBTQ rights and race have prompted a backlash that could hurt a key part of Florida's economy—adding to a broader slowdown in tourism sectors like theme parks.

...Ft Lauderdale projected to the Wall Street Journal the cancellations would cost the county’s economy more than $20 million, taking into account lost revenue from hotel bookings, transportation, food and other travel costs”


https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisond...ns-of-slowing/

finnbow 07-16-2023 01:21 PM

And now DeSantis is firing a dozen of his staffers as donations dry up and Florida continues to crumble with fleeing insurance companies, teacher and doctor shortages, rent hikes, book bans, abortion bans, attacks on the LGBTQ community, an anti-business environment, clampdowns on free speech, and the highest inflation in the nation.

I guess Fascism is not as popular as he had hoped.

BlueStreak 07-16-2023 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 421350)
And now DeSantis is firing a dozen of his staffers as donations dry up and Florida continues to crumble with fleeing insurance companies, teacher and doctor shortages, rent hikes, book bans, abortion bans, attacks on the LGBTQ community, an anti-business environment, clampdowns on free speech, and the highest inflation in the nation.

I guess Fascism is not as popular as he had hoped.

What is the GOP to do without Florida to point at as a premier red state that everybody wants to move to? Or Texas for that matter? Read an article recently about people becoming disillusioned with life in those states. Apparently, living in a state where the government brags about refusing to do what you pay them to do isn't so great after all. "Grandma froze to death in her apartment because we refuse to winterize our grid? Well, that hag was old and sick anyways. Suck it up and take it like a man, Snowflake.".....

Rajoo 07-16-2023 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 421353)
What is the GOP to do without Florida to point at as a premier red state that everybody wants to move to? Or Texas for that matter? Read an article recently about people becoming disillusioned with life in those states. Apparently, living in a state where the government brags about refusing to do what you pay them to do isn't so great after all. "Grandma froze to death in her apartment because we refuse to winterize our grid? Well, that hag was old and sick anyways. Suck it up and take it like a man, Snowflake.".....

Not too far from truth. A Texas Republican made a similar claim during the pandemic, to keep the economy going (read no masks, no vax), grand parents need to die since the elderly were at a higher risk to die from Covid.

I recall reading this then and looked for it, though had forgotten it was none other then the Lt. Governor.

Texas' lieutenant governor suggests grandparents are willing to die for US economy

Quote:

“No one reached out to me and said, ‘as a senior citizen, are you willing to take a chance on your survival in exchange for keeping the America that all America loves for your children and grandchildren?’” Patrick said. “And if that’s the exchange, I’m all in.”
Guess he did not check with the other grandparents.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...my/2905990001/

finnbow 08-03-2023 02:00 PM

DeSantis vows to "start slitting throats" of federal employees "on day one."

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...ts-on-day-one/

Nah, not a fascist. Nope.

finnbow 08-07-2023 09:18 AM

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — Former New Jersey Gov. Christine Todd Whitman and former Rep. Christopher Shays (R-Conn.) are among a group of former elected officials and government staff siding with Disney in its battle with Gov. Ron DeSantis.

Whitman and Shays are part of a group that also includes former Minnesota Gov. Arne Carlson and commentator Bill Kristol that filed a legal brief late Wednesday in federal court. The legal brief tears into the moves of the Republican presidential candidate as “anti-democratic” and said that the high-profile lawsuit is a “case that squarely implicates some of the country’s most cherished freedoms.”

Those who signed onto the brief represent “different political parties, different regions of the country” who agree that “no administration should seek to retaliate, legislatively or otherwise, against its constituents simply for expressing a disfavored viewpoint. To do so is anathema to the First Amendment and severely damaging to the political, social and economic fabric of the country.”


https://subscriber.politicopro.com/a...isney-00109769

Rajoo 08-08-2023 11:16 AM

DeFascist has replaced his campaign manager and we all know what this means. It ain't going all too well for Mr. Wokeless.

Conventions pulling out, teachers leaving, tourists staying away and unobtanium home insurances are all making the winter magic wonderland no so magical anymore. His campaign is broke and soon his state will be broke too. All it will take is a few more hurricanes.

Quote:

Ron DeSantis has replaced his campaign manager Generra Peck, in what is the third major reshuffling of his operations, a campaign spokesperson and a person familiar with the move confirmed to POLITICO.

Peck will be shifted to a role of chief strategist as part of the new order. Taking her place atop the campaign will be James Uthmeier, who has served as chief of staff in DeSantis’ governor’s office. In a text message, Uthmeier said the change was happening “ASAP.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...nager-00110253

Ike Bana 08-09-2023 07:34 AM

From The Guardian US...

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“Trump is the mainstream,” said Allan Lichtman, distinguished professor of history at American University, pointing out that “so-called mainstream Republicans” such as Liz Cheney are now out of office.

Lichtman, who wrote The Keys to the White House, which breaks down a prediction system for determining the outcome of presidential elections, said there was no polarization within the Republican party and denied Trump is not a real conservative. Trump’s policies are an “absolute culmination of 100 years of Republican tradition”, he said. Lichtman compared Trump’s demonization of Muslims with the Republican party’s demonization of Catholics and Jews during the 1920s. Trump’s base wants him to be a bully, he said: they don’t care about his infidelities or sexual assault allegations.
Or as I've been saying, the country is half full of assholes.

RickeyM 08-09-2023 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 422364)
From The Guardian US...



Or as I've been saying, the country is half full of assholes.

... and tRump got them riled up enough to vote. Which is why "the party" is deathly afraid of crossing him.

Ike Bana 08-09-2023 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 422370)
... and tRump got them riled up enough to vote. Which is why "the party" is deathly afraid of crossing him.

Understood, but the point being made in the quote by Professor Lichtman above is...they're not afraid of him...Trump, his attitudes, and the behavior of the rest of the GOP, and the Republican voting electorate are Republican Party mainstream. Going way back in the history of the party. Lichtman highlights the 1920's, with hate directed at non-christians. But plenty of us saw plenty of this during the Vietnam war. Kent State, Jackson State, the NY City hard hat riots. It's nothing new with American conservatives.

Rajoo 08-09-2023 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 422370)
... and tRump got them riled up enough to vote. Which is why "the party" is deathly afraid of crossing him.

Which also hampers the Democratic Party to some extent, best to let a sleeping dog lie since we cannot have an intelligent discourse on policy with the MAGAts, most if not all of them are ignorant to fault and dumb as a rock.

Rajoo 08-10-2023 06:44 PM

DeFascist campaign is flailing according to this opinion piece and here is my reasoning. DeFsacist is anti-woke, but just imagine if he was actually woke as in well informed. But someone should have told him that his anti-woke message which resonated in Florida, which is turning redder every day, will not work in rest of the country. Even Trump himself admitted that he does not know what woke means.

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Yes, it’s too early to definitively write him off. But, no, his poll numbers are not encouraging, except to his opponents; his strident “anti-woke” messaging has not resonated with voters; his affectless campaign style does not make him seem any more human than the animatronic characters created by his nemesis, the Walt Disney Co.; and his successive campaign resets have not been enough to reassure some of his biggest donors that he has any idea what he’s doing.
His donors have closed their wallets and some have even criticized his campaign. Three reboots and the screen still says "Wake Up".

Quote:

How badly is it going for DeSantis? On Jan. 20, he was supported by 31.3 percent of Republican voters, according to the RealClearPolitics average of polls, and he trailed Donald Trump by just 13 points. By Thursday, however, Trump’s lead over DeSantis had tripled, to 39 points — and DeSantis’s support among GOP primary voters had been halved, to just 15.1 percent.
Poor SOB cannot even win his own home state.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...-rebrand-flop/

Chicks 08-13-2023 02:51 PM

https://scontent.fmcc1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...Sw&oe=64DEE586

Rajoo 08-14-2023 04:53 PM

‘Fully expected the downfall’: Inside DeSantis’s brawls with Fla. Republicans

It is still possible that he will be the 2024 candidate of the GOP should Trump were to falter from his four (GA pending) felony cases, or heaven forbid, the Repugnants decide they have had enough Trumpery.

I believe now that jack Smith may be better off with DA Fani Willis leading off to shut off Trump's election interference crap by the Biden administration, come in with bases loaded and hit a home run.

Yes wishful thinking, but why not.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...2024-election/

RickeyM 08-14-2023 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 422687)
‘Fully expected the downfall’: Inside DeSantis’s brawls with Fla. Republicans

It is still possible that he will be the 2024 candidate of the GOP should Trump were to falter from his four (GA pending) felony cases, or heaven forbid, the Repugnants decide they have had enough Trumpery.

I believe now that jack Smith may be better off with DA Fani Willis leading off to shut off Trump's election interference crap by the Biden administration, come in with bases loaded and hit a home run.

Yes wishful thinking, but why not.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...2024-election/

If tRump is bumped Meatball may move up to the GOP pole positions but they won't like it. The likely ensuing knife fight might be entertaining tho'.

Rajoo 08-14-2023 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 422688)
If tRump is bumped Meatball may move up to the GOP pole positions but they won't like it. The likely ensuing knife fight might be entertaining tho'.

Even more, the cult will only vote for Trump and no one else, I am sure of this. Its their divine commitment to their savior.

Mark B 08-15-2023 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 422695)
Even more, the cult will only vote for Trump and no one else, I am sure of this. Its their divine commitment to their savior.

Trump is the embodiment of what MAGA Repubs desire in a Leader and they will remain loyal to him.

Chicks 08-17-2023 11:08 AM

By Trying To 'Move On,' DeSantis Admits His Fight With Disney Was a Political Stunt All Along
https://reason.com/2023/08/15/by-try...ce=parsely-api

DeSatan = LOSER!

RickeyM 08-17-2023 12:18 PM

Mickey Mouse = 1
Ron DeSantis = 0

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/24/cb/b2/2...ey-tattoos.jpg

Rajoo 08-17-2023 03:32 PM

Now his advisors are telling him to dump on Ramaswami and defend Trump at their debate next week. Note to Meatball: MAGAts only love Trump, no one else. If he is not on the ticket, they will not vote. And you defend a crook who is indicted in four of the five MLB East states, wait till you get into the general election, then you better be Woke.


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