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Ike Bana 05-25-2023 08:00 AM

DeSantis primary strategy...
 
On NPR yesterday an analysis found DeSantis, in fear of annoying the 25% of hardcore MAGA republicans, staying away from any negative comments about Donald. Preferring to stick with "issue related" statements. Reckon how long this will last as we have already witnessed the following...

TREMENDOUS CONTENT UPDATED MAR. 22, 2023
Donald Trump’s Nasty Ron DeSantis Nicknames, Ranked


1. "Meatball Ron" (so far off the record, casual conversations only)
2. "Tiny D" (Trump toxic masculinity disorder)
3. " Ron DeEstablishment"
4. "Shutdown Ron" (never enough Covid death for Donald)
5. "Ron Disonest" (Latest in the Lyin Ted, Lyin Hillary, Lyin Comey line)
6. "DeSoros" ???
7. "Ron DeSanctimonious"
8. "Ron DeSanctus" (Meaningless but easer to remember than Sanctimonious)

Well...Cruz never went back at Trump over his "your ugly wife" comment either...so maybe DeSantis is "Tiny D" after all...it appears to run in the party.

DeSantis is working from the 25-25-50 strategy of Republican primaries. 25% of Republican voters are hardcore MAGA, 25% hardcore anti-MAGA, 50% undecided (but will never vote for any Democrat). He figures he can win the alleged "independent" Repubican voters and he already has the "never Trumpers."

It's a leap.

Rajoo 05-25-2023 09:01 AM

^^Musk is much more important to DeSantis now for his 140M Twitter followers. Risk he is taking is that Musk is flakier than a croissant.

RickeyM 05-25-2023 11:41 AM

What nickname did tRump have for Pence before he vanquished him then named his as his VP.

Dondilion 05-25-2023 10:54 PM

Desantis has pissed off the Hispanic vote. Trying to stop people jumping the border is one thing but harassing people who are making an honest living is just a no, no.

There is great fear in the immigrant community of Florida regarding proposed new laws relating to the transportation and employment of undocumented immigrants.
Some construction sites are empty as immigrants move to other states, go on strike, stay at home.

RickeyM 05-26-2023 09:40 AM

Ronny Doo-doo feels he doesn't need the Hispanic vote, the LGTPQ+(?) vote, the "woke" vote, the Dem vote, or the Black vote. If he was running to be president of The Villages he'd be a shoo-in.

Rajoo 05-26-2023 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 419323)
Ronny Doo-doo feels he doesn't need the Hispanic vote, the LGTPQ+(?) vote, the "woke" vote, the Dem vote, or the Black vote. If he was running to be president of The Villages he'd be a shoo-in.

Quote:

“I may have earned 51 percent of the vote, but that entitled me to wield 100 percent of the executive power, and I resolved to use it to advance conservative principles,” DeSantis said at an event in Wisconsin on May 6.
DeFascism will creep into our lives if he is elected. I am putting my money on DJT to Desanctimoniously oust DeSatan.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/25/polit...egy/index.html

RickeyM 05-26-2023 01:21 PM

Being opposed to and by the previously mentioned groups make him a VP natural.

Oerets 05-26-2023 03:48 PM

The GQP Reps want to win, so so bad. They have already made a deal with the devil and sold their souls.
So putting together a ticket in all reality matters little.
The are all in!

Got them votes!

Rajoo 05-26-2023 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 419332)
Being opposed to and by the previously mentioned groups make him a VP natural.

Just don't see a DJT & RD ticket in 2024.
Note, DeFascist has his own mother in the shadows, Casey who I have read is the brains behind his rise to power. Cannot see her saying yes to playing second fiddle.

Ike Bana 05-26-2023 05:19 PM

In the OP I pondered how long it would take DeSantis to begin to retaliate...well here's the answer...

DeSantis is going after Trump like never before

Quote:

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, now officially a candidate for president, is no longer tiptoeing around former President Donald Trump – nor is he being shy about his plans to flex the powers of the presidency like never before if he wins the White House.

bobabode 05-26-2023 06:26 PM

'Ron DeSantis’s Antiscience Agenda Is Dangerous' Scientific American

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-is-dangerous/

Good on them for speaking out against this tin horn fascist.

RickeyM 05-27-2023 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 419339)
Just don't see a DJT & RD ticket in 2024.
Note, DeFascist has his own mother in the shadows, Casey who I have read is the brains behind his rise to power. Cannot see her saying yes to playing second fiddle.

Strategic move. While tRump may hope it garners him more votes. If he were unable to serve heaven forbid if elected) that would leave DeSanctis in the driver's seat. If tRump were to be prevented from running DeSanctis would hope to assume the mantle of Republican leader. Sounds crazy but stranger things have happened.

RickeyM 05-27-2023 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 419343)
'Ron DeSantis’s Antiscience Agenda Is Dangerous' Scientific American

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-is-dangerous/

Good on them for speaking out against this tin horn fascist.

Understand this, no matter what he's said or done if by some magic Meatball gets nominated the GOP/GQP will do anything to get him elected.

Rajoo 05-27-2023 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 419347)
Strategic move. While tRump may hope it garners him more votes. If he were unable to serve heaven forbid if elected) that would leave DeSanctis in the driver's seat. If tRump were to be prevented from running DeSanctis would hope to assume the mantle of Republican leader. Sounds crazy but stranger things have happened.

I still don't buy it, but of course only my gut feel.

With Casey running the show, she would not want Ron to be associated with Trump, a certified loser. What can Trump do for DeSantis? Nothing. Getting featured on Twitter is a huge leg up for him unless Trump also takes his act there.

DeSantis already has the national stage and he can raise his profile further by standing up to Trump. But of course, the MAGAts will hate him for it and I still believe that DeSantis cannot beat Trump in the primaries. Trump branded Koolaid has a long shelf life.

The uncertainty is how will the three pending lawsuits (GA and the two by Smith) impact Trump's campaign. If I were DeSantis, I will be playing this up loud and clear and take my chances with the MAGAts. In reality, DeFascist is more MAGA than the MAGAman himself and as you have said, they will come around if he is the nominee and DeSantist can also pull in the never Trumpers in the GOP.

Should turn out to be a entertaining cage fight. and if he does opt to become Trump's running mate, hope we don't get cheated out of a mano a mano battle between Ron and Don.

finnbow 06-05-2023 05:40 PM

DeSantis better have a campaign strategy to deal with this:

A Texas sheriff’s department has recommended that the district attorney in Bexar County bring criminal charges over the first iteration of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ so-called migrant relocation program. Those flights last September sent 49 asylum seekers, most of them Venezuelans, from San Antonio to Martha’s Vineyard, Massachusetts.

According to a statement provided to the Miami Herald, the Bexar County sheriff completed its criminal investigation into the on-the-ground operation that allegedly lured migrants onto the flights with false promises of jobs and opportunities on the other end.

“The case filed includes both felony and misdemeanor charges of Unlawful Restraint,” according to the statement. “At this time, the case is being reviewed by the DA’s office. Once an update is available, it will be provided to the public.”

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...276114271.html

He's also now being investigated in CA for kidnapping in the recent case of him flying 2 planes of migrants to Sacramento in similar fashion.

Mark B 06-06-2023 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 419703)
DeSantis better have a campaign strategy to deal with this:

A Texas sheriff’s department has recommended that the district attorney in Bexar County bring criminal charges over the first iteration of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ so-called migrant relocation program. Those flights last September sent 49 asylum seekers, most of them Venezuelans, from San Antonio to Martha’s Vineyard, Massachusetts.

According to a statement provided to the Miami Herald, the Bexar County sheriff completed its criminal investigation into the on-the-ground operation that allegedly lured migrants onto the flights with false promises of jobs and opportunities on the other end.

“The case filed includes both felony and misdemeanor charges of Unlawful Restraint,” according to the statement. “At this time, the case is being reviewed by the DA’s office. Once an update is available, it will be provided to the public.”

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...276114271.html

He's also now being investigated in CA for kidnapping in the recent case of him flying 2 planes of migrants to Sacramento in similar fashion.

Yet DeSantis's assholeishness (criminal or not) doesn't appear to have dissuaded Repubs from supporting him.

Rajoo 06-06-2023 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark B (Post 419721)
Yet DeSantis's assholeishness (criminal or not) doesn't appear to have dissuaded Repubs from supporting him.

I am not sure that the Republicans are all in for DeSantis. For now a backup option just in case Trump gets charged by DOJ or Fani Willis and is unable to conduct an effective campaign. I do expect Trump to destroy Meatball very soon since he is getting too much attention and Trump will not put up with it. Still thinks DeFascist is being disloyal.

If Trump did not have these serious legal issues, he would again run practically unopposed. Doubt if Pence would have made a squeak.

Oerets 06-06-2023 11:12 AM

My money is on him being the first to announce the first thing he will do as President, declassifying all the files Trump kept after leaving as President. Pardon Trump at the same time for any and all crimes past and future.

RickeyM 06-06-2023 03:07 PM

That would leave Donny free to continue running the Republican party. That'd be a problem for Meatball with him being president but tRump still pulling the party's strings.

Rajoo 06-07-2023 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 419755)
That would leave Donny free to continue running the Republican party. That'd be a problem for Meatball with him being president but tRump still pulling the party's strings.

Unless Don & Ron form an allegiance as you had previously proposed, they need to destroy each other, Trump more so than Defascist. Unlike the previous era, doubt if their party has any influence on either candidate. DeFascit has now co-opted Trump's MAGA mantra as the Great American Comeback, but of course his plan also requires destruction of America before he can orchestrate a comeback. Trump is peddling snake oil while DeSantis is promising Fascism.

Ike Bana 06-08-2023 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 419782)
Unless Don & Ron form an allegiance as you had previously proposed, they need to destroy each other, Trump more so than Defascist. Unlike the previous era, doubt if their party has any influence on either candidate. DeFascit has now co-opted Trump's MAGA mantra as the Great American Comeback, but of course his plan also requires destruction of America before he can orchestrate a comeback. Trump is peddling snake oil while DeSantis is promising Fascism.

One of us coerces somebody into our Piper Twin Comanche, flys them off to another state against their will, pushes them out on to the tarmac and takes off. We are looking at kidnapping.

Chicks 06-11-2023 07:39 PM

A Calvinesque and Hobbesian look at Meatball Ron
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/202...t-Meatball-Ron


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