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CNN town hall shows the network still doesn't know how to handle Donald Trump

CNN doesn't know how to handle Trump? Bullshit...CNN has turned itself into a MAGA outlet like FOX hasnt been since the Dominion verdict...and done it for the ratings, and the ad money that goes with the ratings. CNN CEO Chris Licht is a whore.

Bullshit. This is what happens when the Chief's middle of the road bullshit takes hold. There is no middle anymore. The internet killed it. But you can either go on spewing inane crap that there are the "extremes" and there is also a vast undecided America in the middle or... I got some beachfront property in Arizona to show you.

I've gotta say I applaud CNN for airing this.

1) Put the unvarnished facts out there and let the audience decide for themselves. The town hall format was predicated on no questions were off the table and no "pre-conditions". Good for both Trump and CNN for setting it up that way.

2) For once, a moderator didn't try to make him/herself the center of attention or the "story" from the town hall.

3) Whether you like Trump or not, Ms. Collins's approach allowed Trump to be Trump (if that was part of CNN's plan) while trying to keep Trump on topic and on-time. I didn't see any "gotcha" questions.

4) Some politicians won't go on particular networks because they deem those outlets as "unfriendly". I hope to see more politicians of both parties avail themselves of all appropriate media outlets.

5) I see the folks on the left are having a fit that CNN - which I guess they regard as "their" network - has the gaul to put Trump on. Some pundits suggest that Trump "won" (not sure how you "win" a town hall) because the audience saw Trump "friendlies" in the audience cheering for him. Kinda sad, actually, that the left thinks so little of people, or maybe they're afraid of the vulnerability of their own positions, that seeing an audience cheer for Trump is something to be concerned about.

Leave it to you to call Trump's firehose of lies "unvarnished facts."

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/10/polit...all/index.html

We do not have cable so this non-affiliated with either team guy may check it out on YouTube later.

Edit: I do foresee a lot of SMDH and sayin "what an idiot" out loud often.

He just says stuff like that to be a shit. He knows better.

After last nights fiasco of facts doubtful CNN will redeem it's credibility in reporting for me to stay a viewer.

I was done with them last night and haven't been back....

CNN was the main reason for me to quit watching TV news in 1997. They were rating whores even before Faux made their own recipe, aka Fake News. But this could also backfire for both Trump and CNN since MAGAts only watch Faux.

Isn't that what Fox is supposed to do, "we report, you decide".

Somehow not even in my wildest dreams do I equate Trump with any fact, let alone unvarnished kind.

I could tell how it was going to go when they announced at the beginning that the audience was made up of Republicans and "undecided" voters. WTF

Trump lost the 2020 election. Even Barr admitted it. After serving up the never ending big lie, there really was no reason to listen to the deranged shitgibbon spewing all the other lies. We've all heard them, over 30,000 times before.

PS...Judge Kaplan didn’t find Trump liable. A unanimous jury of Trump's fellow New Yorker peers found him liable. Trump sniveling once again that it was unfair for him to go to trial where he is so hated. Perhaps he should have sexually assaulted his victim in Cheyenne or Charleston, where he's more popular.

You missed the point.

Trump is a fact. That he's a candidate is a fact. That he has an opinion on (insert your subject of choice here), and whatever that opinion is, is a fact. The way he discusses his opinions become facts, to the extent that they reveal his opinions to the viewers and his understanding (or lack thereof) of the big picture issues associated with those facts. These facts collectively allow the viewer to make their own judgments about whether Trump is / is not an appropriate candidate.

He's presenting his opinion of the 2020 election, his loss of which, as fraudulent or stolen as a fact. His opinion of this as a fact has infected the majority of the Republican party. How can this lie not affect future election losses for him or the Republican party.

So, if that's the audience's takeaway from watching the town hall telecast, then so be it.

I sincerely doubt that his opinion of the 2020 election "infected the majority of the Republican party". More folks I know who would likely vote Repub would rather he just shut up about it.

Frankly, I think the left feels more of a need to bring it up than Trump does. Hell, it was the lead question in last night's town hall, and the moderator continued to press with follow-up questions. They were interviewing the audience members after the program ended. The interviewer asked "Trump keeps talking about how the 2020 election was stolen. Don't you think it's time for him to start talking about other issues? " To which the audience member observed, "Why do you keep asking him about it?"

They are going to ask until he admits he is full of shit. That will never happen so they will keep talking about it.

Words have meaning. If you want to be properly understood, learn to communicate better. The onus is on he who wishes to communicate a point to make that point clear. You didn't.

Wrong again. 61% of Republicans say that Biden won due to voter fraud.

Thanks for refuting that bullshit for me. You just happened to get to it before I did. whell seems to believe if tRump says it and he believes it, it must be true. He seems to think it's alright if people believe tRump's lies. As far as his lie about the election, tRump's been bringing it up every chance he gotten since election day and there have been plenty of Republican politicians going along with it. It seems like ol' whell is just in another shit stirring mood.

So you want us to agree to give a formidable liar who is also promoting the stolen conspiracy a forum to communicate?

Wait till other kooks demand equal time.

Trump's speech needs to be regulated but under our constitution, not possible. Best we can do is to deny him an audience. Besides he keeps repeating the same nonsense of victim hood, grievance or stolen election. So why keep letting him repeat the same lies?

With the forum on CNN yesterday, the anti-Trump GOP is actually bitching about it. CNN by their stupidity (they are going to lose viewership) may have promoted Trump's candidacy further, which we all know will come crashing, when he is indicted of the really serious crimes.

I don't think so. He is saying that Trump must be given a forum since he is now the leading candidate for the GOP and the audience should decide for themselves if he is lying. Obviousle Whell does not believe in the propagation of lies to the general public does any harm which to me is the BS part.

I am of the opinion that with Trump, we need to put a muzzle and MSM can easily accomplish that, but revenues comes first. Damn every one of them but I am immune, no TV programs since 1987, just occasional streamed movies.

The point? Your point is the point on the top of your pointy little head.

Trump is a sociopathic grifter, a sexual assault perp, and a seditionist traitor. His opinions are the opinions of a malignant narcissist. These are facts.

On top of everything else, Mikey doesn't know the difference between opinions and facts. If you're trying to say that it's a fact that Trump has opinions, thats fine, even though it doesnt mean jack shit about anything. Particularly about this subhuman shitbag having the "big picture" on anything besides now to use the legal system to screw innocent, hard working people out of their hard earned money.

Like everybody else, Trump has opinions...and opinions are like assholes, everybodys got one. Trump's stink to high heaven.

The truly amusing thing about Whell is that, as an HR guy, he knows full well that the Orange Buffoon's antics would make him completely ineligible to run even the tiniest publicly-held company, yet he can't seem to shake his absolute loyalty to the ass. It's baffling, but somehow he thinks his bullshit arguments are "reasonable". ROFL.

Once one realizes the way Trump Cultists or even worse the enablers view our country and the world. How closed minded and full of hate, mixed with a ill placed sense of entitlement and superiority.

Then with this, the knowledge that nothing you will say or do will reach them. They have total discuss at any and all not followers.


Makes it very easy to have little to do with them. Life is to short and dealing with them is a waste of time.


""Recognizing a fool is a bold step toward saving you an argument with such people and walking away.

Fools have a fixed mindset
They always bring up stupid logic to support their theory
Despite what you mention or say, they will always try to bring you down to their playing field
They believe their ways to be correct, and they are the only ways that will work for anyone
They are never open to new ideas
They will go to any level to prove their point

If you find yourself in an argument with a fool, it’s prudent you just stop and walk away. Immediately you start arguing with a fool, you’ve already lost. A fool will never make an effort to understand your idea or perspective. They are always right. So why don’t you save yourself at that moment and do something better in your life?""

https://mindblood.com/arguing-with-fools-quotes/



“Never argue with an idiot they’ll drag you down to their level and beat you through experience.” – Mark Twain

Surely you don't think Trump would wait to be asked. But CNN was cynically pandering to Trump for the ratings, even if the actual journalist trying to MC the Town Hall thing was hoping to play it straight.

Leave it to you to be a twerp about it.

Still a twerp. And I don't buy the poll results. Pollster's track record over the last 2 election cycles isn't exactly stellar.

So, let me see if I can distill what you folks are saying:

You believe Trump is a liar, a fraud, a (insert your pejorative of choice here). Therefore, even as a former President, he should not be given any airtime whatsoever. Specifically to last night, even though CNN will be hosting town halls for other candidates, they should not have scheduled a town hall for Trump. In fact, any news outlet that gives Trump airtime is at the very least ethically challenged and at most guilty of journalistic malpractice. Does that sum things up?

Then why does the media - not just CNN - keep bringing it up? Trump didn't bring up the 2020 election yesterday. CNN did.

Uh, no that's not what I said.

1) If Trump or any candidate has an opinion about something in the political realm, it is news.

Example: Obama may have believed that "if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor." Or maybe it was just an opinion. Or maybe he knew it was an outright lie. I tend to believe the latter because - for example - the grandfathering provisions of the ACA would make it damn near impossible to keep an employer's health plan grandfathered. That Omama made this statement is a fact. It might not have been a factual statement, but it is a fact that the statement was made by Obama.

Even if it was a bald-faced pants-on-fire lie, it deserved to be heard so folks could make up their own minds about it. Obama said it and said it in the context of advocating for a major piece of legislation, so it is a fact that Obama and the Dens wanted folks to believe it.

If Trump is stating that the 2020 election was rigged, it's a fact that Trump said it and wants folks to believe it. I don't agree that such things need censoring or need some media talking head to explain people.

Certainly, the media can and should ask challenging questions, and the host did so last night and did it fairly well. To deny folks the opportunity to see a politician respond to tough questions should not be denied to viewers because or or anyone else thinks that politician is a liar. Hell, by that standard, we'd never see another town hall or political debate ever again.

2) I'm not afraid to learn the truth, just like I'm not afraid to hear a politician lie. Both of these things happen to me quite frequently when watching politicians on TV.

You can't be a trumper and not be a racist. Trump said it...those nazis are good people. Trumper = racist.

I don't necessarily believe every trumper is a racist but my opinion agrees with this...

https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Mis...gottrump-M.png

tRump has been proven to be a liar, fact. tRump has been proven to be a fraud, fact. tRump is a convicted sexual assaulter, fact. As such he should be nowhere near any levers of power and holding a position of the leader of the free world. That last part is the fact of my opinion and I don't give a good goddam how popular he is. Media attention is at least partly responsible for him getting elected in the first place. A fact I'll leave you with is that Adolph Hitler was very popular at one point too. Before you go off on a tangent, no I am not comparing tRump to Hitler. Only that Germany at one time was all in on a "popular" leader and we see where that got them.

Biden is a proven liar. Fact. Biden has made racist comments. Fact. A woman has alleged that Biden sexually assaulted her, and multiple women have accused him of inappropriate touching. Fact. Biden has denied the former but admitted to the latter. Fact. There is much evidence to sustain an allegation that the Bidens and their "business partners" took in millions of dollars, in exchange for what is not at all clear. Fact. This included payments from a Romanian fat cat during a time when Biden was Veep, and was also involved in Romanian foreign affairs. Fact.

So, by your standards, Biden should also "be nowhere near any levers of power and holding a position of the leader of the free world", correct?

I'm unsure what CNN's expectation or reasons for staging what was basically an unmoderated interview of DJT in front of a friendly audience, but those questions elicited some very damning responses from Trump.

Funny how your boy Comer showed up at Pox News with nothing but crazy allegations just like yours. Even Doocy called him out on his lack of evidence.
Did you just fall off the turnip truck, Mike?

Fact as you know it or as we know it?

Oh my. It seems that Trump's recent (and future) legal problems have made you more delusional than ever. So, it's a "fact" that Biden did something that is "not at all clear." The horror.

"The worse Trump’s behavior, the more trouble he gets in, and the less he’s tethered to reason and truth, the more intense and loyal his admirers become."

https://www.thebulwark.com/e-jean-ca...ay-still-lose/

How many times has Biden or associates been charged with a crime or crimes?

I've not got all day to count up the former guys total.....

He doubled down on the Big Lie. He called Vladimir Putin a smart guy. He refused to condemn Putin as a war criminal. He equated Russia and Ukraine’s role in the former’s invasion of the latter. He promised to pardon Jan. 6 insurrectionists. He said he had a right to the classified government documents he stole. He said the GOP was right to threaten debt default, which he said might have no effect at all. He gloated about his role in making the Dobbs decision happen. And he once again defamed E Jean Carroll. It was a tour de force of what might be called the art of “Fuck you,” complete with an audience of fawning MAGA zombies and a big old “Get fucked” to fact-checkers in the form of his usual tsunami of lies.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-go...arty-of-fk-you

BWAHAHAHAAAAAAHAH! Want some commentary on the guy you want from somebody who knows better than almost anybody what Trump can and cannot deliver? Here's William Barr, who is a despicable human being, but who does the best job of describing his former boss...better than anybody I've seen so far...

Is Donald Trump fit to be president of the United States?

This insight from Barr, is the reason why so many Democrats want Trump to be the 2024 nominee.

Thank-you Mr. Barr...and now, please excuse me while I go puke.

Your post is a classic example of deflection. Thank you.

This post is a classic example of deflection. Thank you.

Bullshit...you said Biden is not fit to be president, I posted an opinion that the alternative, the deranged animal is unfit.

If you don’t have the capacity to argue your opinion, that shows you to be right and me to be wrong about who is best to lead the country...how's about you just STFU.