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Rajoo 04-21-2023 07:11 PM

Warrior, Savior and Judge
 
Vision of Trump if he wins in 2024.

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“In 2016, I declared I am your voice,” Trump said in a speech last month at the Conservative Political Action Conference and repeated at his first 2024 campaign rally in Waco a few weeks later. “Today, I add: I am your warrior. I am your justice. And for those who have been wronged and betrayed, I am your retribution.”
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Where he earlier changed border policies to reduce refugees and people seeking asylum, he’s now promising to conduct an unprecedented deportation operation. Where he previously moved to make it easier to fire federal workers, he’s now proposing a new civil service exam. After urging state and local officials to take harsher measures on crime and homelessness, Trump says he is now determined to take more direct federal action.
The Trump promise:

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“Together, we are going to finish what we started,” Trump said at the Waco rally last month. “With you at my side, we will totally obliterate the deep state, we will banish the warmongers from our government, we will drive out the globalists, and we will cast out the communists and Marxists, we will throw off the corrupt political class, we will beat the Democrats, we will rout the fake news media, we will stand up to the RINOs, and we will defeat Joe Biden and every single Democrat.
Trump the wannabe Dictator of a land of only MAGAts.

He did not mention that he also plans to rob the US treasury while fixes America. Now if only we could get a sneak peek at his administration. But wait, he probably is not going have one or a VP for that matter.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/elect...policies-2024/

RickeyM 04-21-2023 07:58 PM

That right there ought to send every non-MAGA voter straight to any Democrat running for president. Knowing that any third party candidate vote makes tRump's path to the WH easier.

Mark B 04-21-2023 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 417831)
That right there ought to send every non-MAGA voter straight to any Democrat running for president. Knowing that any third party candidate vote makes tRump's path to the WH easier.

This is going to put Independents on the spot.

Rajoo 04-21-2023 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 417831)
That right there ought to send every non-MAGA voter straight to any Democrat running for president. Knowing that any third party candidate vote makes tRump's path to the WH easier.

Why I started this thread earlier. Once Trump has his nomination locked up and he has for all practical purposes, a third party will hand him the WH on a silver platter, especially in all the swing states.

How any of the lawsuits impacts his candidacy is an unknown or perhaps too late to have any effect.

http://politicalchat.org/showthread.php?t=13858

RickeyM 04-22-2023 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 417841)
Why I started this thread earlier. Once Trump has his nomination locked up and he has for all practical purposes, a third party will hand him the WH on a silver platter, especially in all the swing states.

How any of the lawsuits impacts his candidacy is an unknown or perhaps too late to have any effect.

http://politicalchat.org/showthread.php?t=13858

A spate or reasonable thinking can prevent this. The chances of that happening?

ZeroJunk 04-22-2023 08:23 AM

Does the fact that Joe Biden's entire family is a bunch of know grifters not bother any of you at all ?

Hell, Biden even admitted in public that he would have Obama hold back money from Ukraine if the investigation of Hunter's corruption wasn't stopped.

What is wrong with you people ?

donquixote99 04-22-2023 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 417851)
Does the fact that Joe Biden's entire family is a bunch of know grifters not bother any of you at all ?

Hell, Biden even admitted in public that he would have Obama hold back money from Ukraine if the investigation of Hunter's corruption wasn't stopped.

What is wrong with you people ?


Start with we never believe a word you say.

bobabode 04-22-2023 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 417851)
Does the fact that Joe Biden's entire family is a bunch of know grifters not bother any of you at all ?

Hell, Biden even admitted in public that he would have Obama hold back money from Ukraine if the investigation of Hunter's corruption wasn't stopped.

What is wrong with you people ?

Where is your proof, Sparky?

finnbow 04-22-2023 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 417851)
Does the fact that Joe Biden's entire family is a bunch of know grifters not bother any of you at all ?

Hell, Biden even admitted in public that he would have Obama hold back money from Ukraine if the investigation of Hunter's corruption wasn't stopped.

What is wrong with you people ?

Bullshit. Biden, implementing the policy of both the US and EU, told Ukraine that our aid was dependent upon them getting serious about investigating and rooting out corruption.

Pro tip: Don't believe anything on Wingnut News. A court case this week made that perfectly clear to anyone with half a brain (this apparently excludes you).

Rajoo 04-22-2023 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 417851)
Does the fact that Joe Biden's entire family is a bunch of know grifters not bother any of you at all ?

Hell, Biden even admitted in public that he would have Obama hold back money from Ukraine if the investigation of Hunter's corruption wasn't stopped.

What is wrong with you people ?

What is wrong with you people?

Can you tell us what Hunter Biden is being investigated for? I do not have clue. Words like China, laptop and corruption are just fighting words for the GOP to rile up their base.

And if there is something here, why didn't the 45th administration go looking for it while he was using the JD as his Gestapo.

Frightwing is desperate to get something to stick in order to deflect the criminal acts committed by Trump, both in office and out of office, especially now that he is the flag bearer for the GOP.

Another Benghazi is all this is except the people running this scam are totally inept beginning with Gym Jordan. Or perhaps the GOP is sensing that Ms. Willis or Smith are getting ready for action.

ZeroJunk 04-22-2023 11:39 AM

I'll bet you the $5 that Bob owes me over the 2016 election that Hunter is charged even if just for tax evasion.

Rajoo 04-22-2023 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 417860)
I'll bet you the $5 that Bob owes me over the 2016 election that Hunter is charged even if just for tax evasion.

That's all you got, tax evasion?

A while back I was talking to a CPA friend and he told me that he will never take a contractor as a client because "they even want to deduct cost of dog food from their taxes".

Any idea how many small construction companies and independent trades people operate strictly on cash basis? Or Ma & Pa restaurants who open the cash register but do not ring in the amount if one pays with cash? This could run into hundreds of billions, but of course the GOP is looking to defund IRS and the FBI.

finnbow 04-22-2023 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 417860)
I'll bet you the $5 that Bob owes me over the 2016 election that Hunter is charged even if just for tax evasion.

What you wingnuts fail to understand is that Democrats, unlike MAGAMorons with their Dear Leader, don't actually care, one way or the other, if Hunter Biden is prosecuted for crimes he actually committed.

That said, wingnuts have spewed so many ridiculous conspiracy theories about their political adversaries that until an actual indictment is handed down, we're highly skeptical of your breathless accusations. Watching Gym Jordan, James Comer, MTG and even John Durham has, until now, has revealed a lot of sound and fury, signifying nothing other than right wing projection.

Meanwhile, Dear Leader has been indicted on 34 felonies and the he's likely to be indicted for several more state and federal felonies soon enough. Hunter Biden's guilt or innocence won't change that one iota.

RickeyM 04-22-2023 12:54 PM

The thing is, the wing nuts so desperately want to wound Biden to damage him enough to give TFG a better chance of defeating him in the Biden/tRump rematch. Unable to link Biden to shady dealings they want to associate him with Hunter Bidens (real or imagined) shady dealings. Long used to tRump & Co. shady dealings they assume everyone operates that way. No flame but where's there's smoke there must be fire right? Look really, really, really hard and you can just make out a tinge of smoke.

RickeyM 04-22-2023 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 417851)
Does the fact that Joe Biden's entire family is a bunch of know grifters not bother any of you at all ?

Hell, Biden even admitted in public that he would have Obama hold back money from Ukraine if the investigation of Hunter's corruption wasn't stopped.

What is wrong with you people ?

Oh wow, that was debunked so long ago it's probably in history books by now, LOL. That stuff still flies with fans of angertainment TV but regular folk insist on facts and truth

BigElCat 04-22-2023 01:27 PM

There is a fairly strong body of evidence that Hunter Biden was loosely involved in a company deal regarding defense spending in the Ukraine.

It more like he introduced certain people together, and they made a deal about something...it was not Uranium as reported (IIRC), but some kind of defense contract.

It's said that Hunter purchased a house for his family; a house that President Biden has stayed in, in the past. It's owned by Hunter.

BigElCat 04-22-2023 01:32 PM

Now let me propose an even more bleak scenario.

What if the Right Wing has 40% of the population under it's spell, along with imbedded operatives in the media ? What if these embbed operatives are also in Law Enforcement, at every level ?

ZeroJunk 04-22-2023 02:19 PM

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don't actually care, one way or the other, if Hunter Biden is prosecuted for crimes he actually committed.
So, why don't they.

ZeroJunk 04-22-2023 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 417872)
Oh wow, that was debunked so long ago it's probably in history books by now, LOL. That stuff still flies with fans of angertainment TV but regular folk insist on facts and truth

If you really think the Ukraine oil company was paying Hunter is a lie go watch Rachel Maddow some more.

ZeroJunk 04-22-2023 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 417862)
That's all you got, tax evasion?

A while back I was talking to a CPA friend and he told me that he will never take a contractor as a client because "they even want to deduct cost of dog food from their taxes".

Any idea how many small construction companies and independent trades people operate strictly on cash basis? Or Ma & Pa restaurants who open the cash register but do not ring in the amount if one pays with cash? This could run into hundreds of billions, but of course the GOP is looking to defund IRS and the FBI.

Somewhat different than $85,000 per month, with Joe getting his 10% of course.

Mark B 04-22-2023 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 417881)
Somewhat different than $85,000 per month, with Joe getting his 10% of course.

You're pathetic if you believe that.

If you're so eager to uncover/reveal misconduct start with Donald Trump or other documented wrong doer.

Chicks 04-22-2023 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 417881)
Somewhat different than $85,000 per month, with Joe getting his 10% of course.

Your source? (A reliable source, not your wingnut media "source"). You must be extremely upset with Uncle Thomas then, for his 20 years of "friendship" with his billionaire patron, no?

finnbow 04-22-2023 03:12 PM

Warrior, Savior and Judge
 
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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 417879)
So, why don't they.


Maybe because he has not done what you say he has done. Not everything you hear on wingnut media is true. Indeed most of it is not. Have you ever considered that?

Rajoo 04-22-2023 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 417879)
So, why don't they.

Now I am going to step into it, who is the they?

The way it works in our country of law and order (or used to) is, first present evidence like Dominion did against their lawsuit with Fox. Then sue or prosecute. The Dotard and his consigliere Barr had two years to do this if they had any sort of credible evidence, but all we got was tweets and rants.

In reality what happened? Trump got caught running an extorsion campaign with our tax money and got caught. Senate declined to judge him, not same as being exonerated, since the House had presented copious amounts of evidence. Otherwise there will not be any articles for impeachment.

As part of this Trump's deflection campaign, conspiracies and innuendos arose, first in order to throw up a smoke screen and then later an attempt to damage Joe Biden's candidacy (Benghazi).

So first try and offer credible proof.

And if I am not mistaken Hunter Biden is either contemplating or actually is bringing legal action on his 'laptop' mystery.

ZeroJunk 04-22-2023 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 417889)
Now I am going to step into it, who is the they?

The way it works in our country of law and order (or used to) is, first present evidence like Dominion did against their lawsuit with Fox. Then sue or prosecute. The Dotard and his consigliere Barr had two years to do this if they had any sort of credible evidence, but all we got was tweets and rants.

In reality what happened? Trump got caught running an extorsion campaign with our tax money and got caught. Senate declined to judge him, not same as being exonerated, since the House had presented copious amounts of evidence. Otherwise there will not be any articles for impeachment.

As part of this Trump's deflection campaign, conspiracies and innuendos arose, first in order to throw up a smoke screen and then later an attempt to damage Joe Biden's candidacy (Benghazi).

So first try and offer credible proof.

And if I am not mistaken Hunter Biden is either contemplating or actually is bringing legal action on his 'laptop' mystery.


I'm thinking Merrick Garland , or however you spell his name.


The proof is overwhelming.

Really, once you decide right and wrong by who you want to be President ?

Have you ever considered that Hunter Biden is absolutely useless to anybody without his father's name you will understand grifting.

Rajoo 04-22-2023 04:12 PM

Getting back to Trump's proclamation:
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“In 2016, I declared I am your voice,” Trump said in a speech last month at the Conservative Political Action Conference and repeated at his first 2024 campaign rally in Waco a few weeks later. “Today, I add: I am your warrior. I am your justice. And for those who have been wronged and betrayed, I am your retribution.”
What he really means by that is "I am your Avenger" (I will settle all of your grievances). As for his 'retribution", what punishment has he suffered other than worldwide mockery?

ZeroJunk 04-22-2023 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 417894)
Getting back to Trump's proclamation:


What he really means by that is "I am your Avenger" (I will settle all of your grievances). As for his 'retribution", what punishment has he suffered other than worldwide mockery?


Maybe the name of this site should be The Sandpile.

Joe admitted to it in a well televised interview where he said the Ukraine prosecutor had to be fired in order to get U.S. assistance.

Rajoo 04-22-2023 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 417893)
I'm thinking Merrick Garland , or however you spell his name.


The proof is overwhelming.

Really, once you decide right and wrong by who you want to be President ?

Have you ever considered that Hunter Biden is absolutely useless to anybody without his father's name you will understand grifting.

There is no overwhelming proof.

If someone has overwhelming proof, why is that not being presented by the GOP House? Congressional hearing is another way to air out misdeeds if the JD is stonewalling (like Barr did with Mueller report), but so far all Gym Jordan has done is fart through his mouth.

In reality, conspiracies are what are overwhelming and there has been no proof of any wrongdoing.

ZeroJunk 04-22-2023 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 417897)
There is no overwhelming proof.

If someone has overwhelming proof, why is that not being presented by the GOP House? Congressional hearing is another way to air out misdeeds if the JD is stonewalling (like Barr did with Mueller report), but so far all Gym Jordan has done is fart through his mouth.

In reality, conspiracies are what are overwhelming and there has been no proof of any wrongdoing.

Would you think because Merrick Garland is a Democrat ?

And, Trump threatened the Government Order that plays all of you like a bunch of puppets year end and year out. And, you are so programmed you don't even know it is happening to you.

Rajoo 04-22-2023 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 417896)
Maybe the name of this site should be The Sandpile.

Joe admitted to it in a well televised interview where he said the Ukraine prosecutor had to be fired in order to get U.S. assistance.

We are all chatting here while you provide chatter with rumors, innuendos and conspiracies. This is how I see it. If you want to make a case, provide references and links, if not it did not happen. And presenting RFK Jr. as some sort of an expert is patently asinine.

finnbow 04-22-2023 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 417896)
Joe admitted to it in a well televised interview where he said the Ukraine prosecutor had to be fired in order to get U.S. assistance.

And he did so at the direction of President Obama and in coordination with the State Dept and the EU. The prosecutor in question was in bed with corrupt Russian-backed oligarchs and the US and EU demanded investigation and prosecution of corruption in order for Ukraine to receive aid (something we routinely do with foreign aid).

Wingnut Media, of which you're an obvious fan, has glossed this over and tried to make something nefarious out of routine foreign policy activities and you fell for it (unsurprisingly). This is typical Trumpian misdirection to obfuscate the issue for which he was impeached the first time and Rudy Guiliani (of dildo shop fame) was his bagman. Try to keep up. You're making a fool of yourself.

BigElCat 04-22-2023 05:01 PM

Don't over look the possibility that 'they' use blackmail, and coercion to leverage politicians. And that's why Hunter hasn't been prosecuted within the legal system.

ZeroJunk 04-22-2023 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 417900)
And he did so at the direction of President Obama and in coordination with the State Dept and the EU. The prosecutor in question was in bed with corrupt Russian-backed oligarchs and the US and EU demanded investigation and prosecution of corruption in order for Ukraine to receive aid (something we routinely do with foreign aid).

Wingnut Media, of which you're an obvious fan, has glossed this over and tried to make something nefarious out of routine foreign policy activities and you fell for it (unsurprisingly). This is typical Trumpian misdirection to obfuscate the issue for which he was impeached the first time and Rudy Guiliani (of dildo shop fame) was his bagman. Try to keep up. You're making a fool of yourself.

Scary thing is that you actually believe that.

bobabode 04-22-2023 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BigElCat (Post 417903)
Don't over look the possibility that 'they' use blackmail, and coercion to leverage politicians. And that's why Hunter hasn't been prosecuted within the legal system.

Prosecuted for what? Be specific. I'd love to see just a smidgeon of this so-called proof you all have on Hunter Biden.

Please none of the vacuous conspiracy ridden YouTube videos you are so fond of. Thanks.

ZeroJunk 04-22-2023 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 417905)
Prosecuted for what? Be specific. I'd love to see just a smidgeon of this so-called proof you all have on Hunter Biden.

Please none of the vacuous conspiracy ridden YouTube videos you are so fond of. Thanks.

I'm thinking there is a lap top full of it. Plus his partner whose name I forget.

Must be hard to be stupid Bob.

BigElCat 04-22-2023 05:09 PM

It was agricultural grain that was being sold, China involved, not a defense contract as I said previously.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...2018-rcna29462

ZeroJunk 04-22-2023 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BigElCat (Post 417908)
It was agricultural grain that was being sold, not a defense contract as I said previously.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...2018-rcna29462

And you believe that, LOL.

bobabode 04-22-2023 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 417893)
I'm thinking Merrick Garland , or however you spell his name.


The proof is overwhelming.

Really, once you decide right and wrong by who you want to be President ?

Have you ever considered that Hunter Biden is absolutely useless to anybody without his father's name you will understand grifting.

Most everyone here has asked you for a look at this so-called proof and all you do when asked is come up with insults.

Well where is it? or are you just another garden variety lying, hatefilled, reactionary Trump supporter?

bobabode 04-22-2023 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 417907)
I'm thinking there is a lap top full of it. Plus his partner whose name I forget.

Must be hard to be stupid Bob.

So, simpleminded conjecture is all you have. Pfffft.

finnbow 04-22-2023 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 417904)
Scary thing is that you actually believe that.

While you take the high road and believe Rudy Guiliani.


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