23 charged with terrorism in Atlanta ‘Cop City’ protest
 

More than 20 people from around the country faced domestic terrorism charges Monday after dozens in black masks attacked the site of a police training center under construction in a wooded area outside Atlanta where one protester was killed in January.

The site has become the flashpoint of ongoing conflict between authorities and left-leaning protesters who have been drawn together, joining forces to protest a variety of causes. Among them: People against the militarization of police; others who aim to protect the environment; and some who oppose corporations who they see as helping to fund the project through donations to a police foundation.

https://apnews.com/article/atlanta-p...f44283fc72fc56

The use of domestic terrorism charges here appears, at least in many cases, to be an indiscriminate over-reaction.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/03/03/...atlanta-forest

'DOJ arrests its 1,000th rioter — and has plans to arrest hundreds more'

"As of this month, the Justice Department has arrested 1,000 people for their involvement in the January 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, per CBS News — but they are not even close to done finding all the perpetrators.


"A new wave of cases, many of which involve higher-level charges of assaults against police, continues to expand a prosecution that is already the largest in American history," reported Scott MacFarlane. "Twenty-six months into the criminal investigation, the newest cases continue to reveal new details and evidence about alleged criminal activity amid the riotous mob." Raw Story

https://www.rawstory.com/capitol-rio...ts-2659513470/

Now here's some real criminals. :rolleyes:

Oops, my bad. Wrong team. (rolls eyes)

Long think piece in The Atlantic says we're in for a long period of anarchic political violence. Generational long.Decivilization they call it. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...uary-6/673088/.

Whataboutism? Typical. :rolleyes:

There are many still fighting the Civil War or the one of Northern Aggression....:rolleyes:

Sadly blood will be spilled, much sorrow before this is settled.
If ever!

The Atlantic writer doesn't expect another civil war. MTG aside, neither the masses nor the powers want to break up the country. Smaller more ad-hoc groups will go after their enemies, out of hate and/or seeking revenge. The current rash of mass shootings is a taste. We may never go back to being as reliably peaceful as we were.

With the hints being dropped of things to come.
Such as in Georgia, https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/05/u...eys-trump.html
""The proposals are part of a broader push by conservative lawmakers around the country to rein in district attorneys whom they consider too liberal.""

Moving to control the courts, having already shown willing to cheat to win.

Little doubt they will push and push until the oppressed will lash out. Right now the oppressed just want justice, when it becomes retribution the real trouble starts.

Pot>Kettle.

Sad (for you) that no one here will defend them. I think, however, that a domestic terrorist group could scare up more than twenty-three people https://www.audiokarma.org/forums/st...lies/dunno.gif

Exactly why you started this thread, and every one of your hateful threads. You’re a sick puppy.

An interesting aspect of this is that while there is a state law against "domestic terrorism" in Georgia, there is no such federal law because of opposition to it by Congressional Republicans, largely because the vast majority of incidents that would qualify as domestic terrorism are perpetrated by the GOP base (e.g., Jan. 6). Moreover, Congressional Republicans went ballistic after a 2009 DHS report (correctly) identified the threat of right-wing extremism.

Meanwhile, just last night Tucker Carlson spent his show again trying to portray the Jan. 6 insurrection (in which over 1,000 people have been arrested) as peaceful and supported by the Capitol Police.

What this teaches us is that conservatives believe that criminal activity is domestic terrorism if it involves liberal causes, but it's normal, patriotic tourist activity if perpetrated by Republicans and investigation thereof is treasonous.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqoJHSeW...png&name=small

Of course the FAUX/tRump faithful refuse to watch real journalism so they'll believe Fucker Carlson's propaganda (lies) hook line and sinker.

So, you do recognize it when you see it, you hypocrite. Figgers.

^^^ bam!

..says the Doxxer in Chief! :rolleyes:

Nice try Bobby. Keep it up. You just might find a squirrel, you blind nut. :p

23 charged with terrorism in Atlanta ‘Cop City’ protest
 

Watching you criticize anyone for whataboutism is like watching Trump criticizing others for lying. Whataboutism and projection are your (and other conservatives) two most frequently used debate techniques. Without them, you are effectively rendered speechless.

Sez the idjit who posts under his real name. :rolleyes:

Let me guess: you didn't actually watch Carlson's report. (If you didn't, you're not alone. I didn't see it either). You just read what someone else said about it. Is that right?

I know you would probably have some retort like: "I wouldn't piss on Carlson if he was on fire, much less watch his show or anything on Fox News."

While I didn't watch his show, the video elements are available to view. There is a compelling counter-story to be considered. It is even possible to consider it if you're willing to:

- drop the preconception and Dem/media narrative that Jan 6th was an "insurrection". I know, that's a lot to ask of this group.
- assume that neither the Dems nor Repubs are going to provide the objective facts of what actually occurred on Jan 6th. Both will try to shape the narrative about that day for their own purposes.
- No question, folks who entered the Capital building that day should not have been there. However, when the protesters did enter the building, why were there Capitol Police shown on video waving them forward into the building?
- If it was an insurrection, then why did the vast majority of individuals who entered the Capital armed with nothing more dangerous than a cell phone?
- Why are the Capital Police seen escorting protestors around the building - particularly the bull horn hat guy - and not restraining, detaining or arresting them?

I don't know the answers to all of these questions. They do, however, run counter to the narratives that we've heard and seen for 2 years. The additional video provides some interesting context not present in the video clips we've seen ad nauseum since Jan 6th 2020.

...which anyone can look up on LinkedIn. :rolleyes:

23 charged with terrorism in Atlanta ‘Cop City’ protest
 

From whataboutism to projection to just asking questions - the trifecta of bad faith conservative discourse. Personally, I am content to let the court proceedings from J6 trials (and the 500 convictions thus far), sworn testimony of Trump staff to the J6 committee, and my own two eyes (I was glued to the TV all day on Jan 6) tell the story of that day. I do not need an admitted liar like Carlson to falsely characterize it for me.

What's puzzling is that you frequently rail against taking things out of context. Carlson's show from last night might well represent the absolute epitome of this practice. He extracted a few select snippets from 44,000 hours of footage of the Capitol riots to support his concocted story about how peaceful and respectful the MAGAMorons were that day. Even though you claim not to have watched it, the message sure seems to have resonated with you.

whell you may not have seen the show but I'm sure you've seen Tuckers highlights and are overjoyed that it's reinforced the narrative you choose to believe. On this board you've got as much credibility as Carlson. I had a much longer post but I deleted most of it. You and your bullshit ain't worth the bandwidth.

He should be ignored. He's just doing his usual trolling for his personal entertainment. The last paragraph reads like it came right out of Fucker Carlson's mouth.

This needs go be asked seriously, is why there seems to be a drive to militarize the police from one side? The need now?

What has changed in our country to warrant these steps?

Looking foreword, planning ahead?

Planning for a future where we are partitioned? Segregated by race, ethnic, religious and the biggie....... political parties!


Becoming a country like Israel, South Africa, China, Russia..... Having whole populations in camps.

Whell has 'watched' or 'not watched' and 'believes' or 'doesn't believe' whatever best serves his trolling purposes of the second. No such testimony can be taken to have any strict relationship to his actual behavior or beliefs. He is here to troll us, and only to troll us. It's his way of striking back!

and finnbow had to go and mention that Fucker Carlson propaganda piece :rolleyes: I think he about made w****'s day when he saw that https://www.audiokarma.org/forums/st...ilies/lmao.gif

Here is my take on this.

Nancy was throwing a consolation party for Trump's supporters and to make it a fun event, she encourages them to wear costumes. Sadly the party got out of hand when they found out the Trump was not invited and they proceeded to trash the place. Nancy called 911 and no one answered because its was a day off for the Capitol Police. In desperation she called the White House to ask Trump to come over, but Trump was busy packing the classified documents for his trip to Florida, so he said no can do.

So in the end who caused the storming of the Capitol? Nancy for throwing her party.

Why did the place the trashed? Capitol Police were off duty that day.

See this was all a big misunderstanding form a party gone wild. :D

I wasn't about revealing my name...

As I said in my post, I didn't watch the show, but the video elements are available online. It's not even hard to find them. And it figures coming from the left that asking questions is evidence of bad faith. :rolleyes:

You're talking out of both sides of your mouth - as usual - with your post above. You complain that Fox only aired "snippets" of January 6th video, yet the fact that we've seen the same short video segments from Jan 6th on national news played over and over again for 2 years doesn't seem to register with you.

You claim that these segments somehow "resonated with me", yet you've not watched any of it and feel comfortable categorically claiming that the video supports a "concocted" story....I guess because that's how some other media outlet characterized it for you?

Among other things that are funny, you've chided me for citing a CBS news story in a prior post, but there you go citing CBS News in post 13 in this thread. That's hilarious.

Nothing particularly "resonated" with me from the video segments I've watched. Some of the questions in my prior post - the questions you don't like - I've actually posted about before. I'm sorry asking legitimate questions bugs you. You must have hated the Socratic method of learning. :rolleyes:

You have no idea what I believe, regardless of your spurious "assumption" above.

Leave it to you to call Tucker Carlson's "just asking questions" sophistry the Socratic method.:rolleyes:

The Socratic Method "is a dialogue between teacher and students, instigated by the continual probing questions of the teacher, in a concerted effort to explore the underlying beliefs that shape the students views and opinions." To buy into your idiotic premise, one would have to belief that Carlson (and you) are the teachers and I'm the student (and that I actually have something to learn from either of you). Moreover, it presumes Carlson's (and your) questions are genuinely probing and not bad faith rhetorical bullshit.

Unless you're taking after Fox News and spewing shit you know full well to be lies, your many posts on this board reveal quite a bit about what you believe. In short, you either faithfully believe all the dishonest bullshit spewed by the GOP and its captive media sources or feel duty-bound to defend what you know to be their dishonest bullshit.

Makes about as much sense as the shit F. Carlson threw against the wall.

Fascinating. This corresponds exactly with my observations in message 27 above. It's rather sad, though, the thought that a person can post on a board for years and years and never give any reliable indications of what they believe.

Amusing that Whell “knows” with certainty that we’re a bunch of “lefties”, but we’re not permitted to make any assumptions about his idiotic beliefs. You’re Always a laughingstock, Whell! :D

From Wiki:

So the lefties by definition are revolutionaries while the righties are sheeple.
No wonder they coronated Trump as their king, believes what he tells them and sends him money when he asks (a form of taxation).

When running into a member of this cult of sheeple who are so upset and use the terms like "Woke" as a insult. Or spew unfounded facts as truth. Saying they are entitled to their beliefs.

Where they themselves are in a cult with the requirement of complete adherence to the cult. Have to be politically correct to stay in the the party! Or to be then shunned ostracized and attached endlessly.

Everything bad they say is happening to or in the country now, is what they believe whole heartily. Willing to make it happen just to be right. They are the very ones who watch or listen to the propaganda broadcasted with the suspended use of the prefrontal cortex!:rolleyes:

Little hope getting through.

In your post, were you referring to the questions I had asked in the post you were responding to, or Carlson's questions? Either way, its interesting that you object to someone asking questions about your chosen narrative.