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finnbow 11-18-2022 10:29 AM

"Election integrity"
 
A state senator from West Michigan, who made election integrity a key issue in his reelection campaign, is under criminal investigation after allegations of signature fraud were made against him in late 2016, the Michigan Secretary of State’s Office has confirmed.

On Nov. 7, 2016, Clerk Jennifer Badgero in Newaygo County’s Brooks Township filed a report with Michigan State Police alleging state Sen. Jon Bumstead (R-Newaygo) forged absentee ballots at least twice.


https://www.rawstory.com/state-offic...-gop-lawmaker/

Why is it that the party who has made such a big deal of "election integrity" is the one whose officials are the ones always implicated in election fraud (or whose President and other GOP officials are currently under a serious grand jury investigation in GA for efforts to steal an election)?

donquixote99 11-18-2022 10:46 AM

Dishonest accusations signal general dishonesty.

whell 12-08-2022 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 413322)
A state senator from West Michigan, who made election integrity a key issue in his reelection campaign, is under criminal investigation after allegations of signature fraud were made against him in late 2016, the Michigan Secretary of State’s Office has confirmed.

On Nov. 7, 2016, Clerk Jennifer Badgero in Newaygo County’s Brooks Township filed a report with Michigan State Police alleging state Sen. Jon Bumstead (R-Newaygo) forged absentee ballots at least twice.


https://www.rawstory.com/state-offic...-gop-lawmaker/

Why is it that the party who has made such a big deal of "election integrity" is the one whose officials are the ones always implicated in election fraud (or whose President and other GOP officials are currently under a serious grand jury investigation in GA for efforts to steal an election)?

From your linked article:

“The key language we based this decision on was, “a person who forges a signature…” Case law and the forgery statutes require an intent to defraud,” noted Becker in the email. “There is no intent to defraud here. He is simply attempting to assist his daughter in filling out an absentee ballot when she is unable to and doing so at her direction. The proper thing happened when the ballot was to be counted, it was invalidated, but this does not make it a crime.”

Sure sounds like a someone who deserves 20 years in the state penitentiary. Lock him up now! :rolleyes:

whell 12-08-2022 05:18 PM

I know how you scour the news sites looking for evidence of election fraud, so I'm surprised you missed this one:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/27/polit...ced/index.html

CNN

Expelled former Democratic congressman Michael “Ozzie” Myers has been sentenced to 30 months in prison for federal election fraud dating back to 2014, the Justice Department said Tuesday, and was immediately taken into custody.

Myers, 79, pleaded guilty in June to conspiracy to deprive voters of civil rights, bribery, obstruction of justice, falsification of voting records, and conspiring to illegally vote in a federal election as part of scams to stuff ballot boxes for certain Democratic candidates in Pennsylvania elections between 2014 and 2018, the DOJ said in a news release.

Oerets 12-08-2022 05:19 PM

If it is proven he signed her name.........broke the law!

finnbow 12-08-2022 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 413783)
I know how you scour the news sites looking for evidence of election fraud, so I'm surprised you missed this one:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/27/polit...ced/index.html

....

You do realize that the loudest voice in the whole election integrity debate is Donald Trump, himself under federal and state investigation for conspiracy to defraud America/Georgia in the 2020 election, don't ya? And that virtually his entire legal team who took Trump's election fraud accusations to court is involved in disbarment proceedings?

One would think that you'd realize by now that conservative politicians are noisiest about the very issues that they themselves are the most guilty of (election fraud, profligate spending, fake news, support for the constitution, child sexual abuse ...). Every accusation is a confession.

finnbow 12-09-2022 02:41 PM

The pattern is unmistakable: Cases from Gov. Ron DeSantis’ election crimes office keep ending up in court, and as The Miami Herald reported, they keep collapsing.

A Miami judge has tossed out another voter fraud case brought by Gov. Ron DeSantis’ elections police, the third case to fall apart since the governor announced the arrests. On Wednesday, Circuit Judge Laura Anne Stuzin reached the same conclusion as another Miami judge did in a different voter’s case, saying that statewide prosecutors didn’t have the ability to bring charges against Ronald Lee Miller.


https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...part-rcna60937

It seems to me that the real fraud here is DeSantis himself. He had claimed “mission accomplished” for his “election integrity” campaign back in August.

RickeyM 12-09-2022 03:14 PM

It's all part ot the doing something without doing something campaign. A suitable campaign when seeking the local or federal office of your choice.

finnbow 03-13-2023 01:46 PM

Jury selection started today in the trial of 33-year-old Douglass Mackey, a man who prolifically spread hate and politically charged disinformation under the pseudonym “Ricky Vaughn” during Donald Trump’s political rise.

The Department of Justice (DOJ) charged Mackey with election interference in January 2021, accusing him of a conspiracy to spread “misinformation designed to deprive individuals of their constitutional right to vote.” The DOJ leveled these charges in connection with a November 2016 stunt in which Mackey encouraged people to vote for Hillary Clinton by text message by disseminating an online flyer.

The online flyer Mackey distributed featured images of a Black person in front of an “African Americans for [Hillary Clinton]” sign, urging voters to text in their votes. Nearly 5,000 people fell for Mackey’s detailed ploy, according to the DOJ’s press release.


https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/...ng-faces-trial

RickeyM 03-14-2023 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 416177)
Jury selection started today in the trial of 33-year-old Douglass Mackey, a man who prolifically spread hate and politically charged disinformation under the pseudonym “Ricky Vaughn” during Donald Trump’s political rise.

The Department of Justice (DOJ) charged Mackey with election interference in January 2021, accusing him of a conspiracy to spread “misinformation designed to deprive individuals of their constitutional right to vote.” The DOJ leveled these charges in connection with a November 2016 stunt in which Mackey encouraged people to vote for Hillary Clinton by text message by disseminating an online flyer.

The online flyer Mackey distributed featured images of a Black person in front of an “African Americans for [Hillary Clinton]” sign, urging voters to text in their votes. Nearly 5,000 people fell for Mackey’s detailed ploy, according to the DOJ’s press release.


https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/...ng-faces-trial

Waiting for someone around here to say those people that fell for Mackey’s detailed ploy should've known better. Selectively forgetting about the sheep who believed the lies FAUX news* (that isn't news) told them.

finnbow 06-20-2023 02:28 PM

Colorado AG has charged six people with forging signatures -- including using several dead voters -- in an attempt to get a GOP congressional candidate on the primary ballot last year.

https://www.denverpost.com/2023/06/2...investigation/

It seems that whenever an actual case of voter or election fraud comes up, it is always Republicans. Always.

donquixote99 06-20-2023 05:12 PM

It's because the Republican party has become the radicalized party of the "paranoid style of American politics" first described in the seminal paper by Richard Hofstadter in 1964. Belief in conspiracy is a primary facet; the paranoid believe their opponents are indeed rigging everything. This justifies 'counter-rigging' whenever possible. See this write up of the modern paranoids in this piece from last year in The Hill. A quote from that:
Quote:

Hofstadter saw evidence of the paranoid style in radical movements, mostly on the political right, throughout American history — the Anti-Masonic Party, the Know Nothing Party, the Populist Party, nativist, anti-Catholic, anti-Mormon and anti-Semitic movements, investigations in the 1930s of “merchants of death” (munitions makers and bankers who had supplied and financed World War I), McCarthyism, the John Birch Society. Add to that white supremacists, MAGA enthusiasts who see a gigantic conspiracy to steal the 2020 election, and QAnon adherents who believe Satan-worshipping child sex traffickers are the sinister force controlling U.S. government and world affairs.

Oerets 06-20-2023 05:30 PM

I can see it now, the Reps will have a come to Jesus and bail on Trump. Look like hero's and cleanup in 2024.
Then the real fun begins.....

The never letting go again!!

RickeyM 06-20-2023 09:35 PM

Not gonna happen. The MAGA base that's been radicalized won't abandon tRump. The GOP politicians won't do a thing unless the base moves them. tRump's election deniers took a drubbing last election. They can have a come to Jesus all they want but there's a MAGA candidate waiting in the wings to campaign against them.

Mark B 06-21-2023 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 420226)
Not gonna happen. The MAGA base that's been radicalized won't abandon tRump. The GOP politicians won't do a thing unless the base moves them. tRump's election deniers took a drubbing last election. They can have a come to Jesus all they want but there's a MAGA candidate waiting in the wings to campaign against them.

Truth!

finnbow 10-02-2023 12:11 PM

More legal fallout from "2,000 Mules," the ridiculous "documentary" that MAGAWorld has cited as prove of election fraud:

A federal judge ruled that the defamation and voting rights lawsuit against Dinesh D'Souza, True the Vote, Salem Media, and Regnery can move forward, albeit with some counts dismissed.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/re...8676.106.0.pdf


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