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bobabode 10-03-2022 06:56 PM

Herschel Walker - Forced Birther, Actual Liar
 
Old Herschel Walker caught in a big fat lie. She kept the receipts.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/pro-li...georgia-senate

finnbow 10-03-2022 08:30 PM

And now his son is unloading on him.:eek:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeMFeBQW...jpg&name=small

finnbow 10-03-2022 08:31 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeMD7hwW...g&name=900x900

bobabode 10-03-2022 09:50 PM

All I can do is shake my head in wonder and disgust, Finn.

On a better note, spinning Spirit of '76 by Randy California and Ed Cassidy. Even drove out to Annapolis to see the concert. :)

finnbow 10-04-2022 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 411443)
All I can do is shake my head in wonder and disgust, Finn.

On a better note, spinning Spirit of '76 by Randy California and Ed Cassidy. Even drove out to Annapolis to see the concert. :)

Twelve Dreams ... and The Family that Plays Together have always been big favorites at Chez Finnbow and still get time in the rotation.

finnbow 10-04-2022 07:56 AM

Georgia Democratic Senator Raphael Warnock and former NFL player Herschel Walker, the Trump-endorsed Republican candidate, have a debate scheduled for Oct. 14 in Savannah, Ga. However, Warnock and Libertarian candidate Chase Oliver also agreed to a debate in Macon, Georgia, but Walker has not confirmed. The debate is now canceled.

https://www.bet.com/article/xp352e/r...ebate-canceled

Chickenshit.

Rajoo 10-04-2022 12:06 PM

Well a chickenshit with a disclaimer.

Quote:

"I'm not that smart. He's a preacher. (Warnock) is smart and wears these nice suits. So, he is going to show up and embarrass me at the debate Oct. 14th, and I'm just waiting to show up and I will do my best," Walker told reporters.
He does not debate to embarrass himself, just be himself.

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/her...not-that-smart

Rajoo 10-04-2022 01:28 PM

Herschel Walker is now 'pledging' to sue whomever for the report on aborting his own child while Trump has sued CNN for telling the truth. Trump and the Trumpee, both clueless since it all in the discovery phase and if you are a public figure of ill repute, last place to go to is the courts. Unintended consequences is like karma, a bitch to deal with since you started it.

Edit: found this on NYT.

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Mr. Walker has already been found to have embellished or misrepresented key elements of his life story, including claiming he worked in law enforcement (he did not). For years, his food-distribution company said it would donate a portion of its earnings to charity, but there is little evidence that it did so.
Sounds like another charity which got shut down. :D
Republicans are going full speed ahead like a Herschel Walker rush, head first.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/04/u...ia-senate.html

RickeyM 10-04-2022 09:58 PM

The GOP in supporting Walker has said he has denied it in the strongest of terms. Which means they know he lied but they don't care. Unfortunately for HW and the GOP the girlfriend in question has a receipt from the abortion clinic, a deposit receipt for the money covering the procedure and a signed get well card. Desperate to take the Senate the Repubs will excuse anything negative about Walker. To Republican voters, being convinced by their elected officials that unless the Dems are defeated all America is lost, will do the same.

Chicks 10-04-2022 10:35 PM

Herschel Walker Is Demonstrating the New Law of Politics
Scandals once sunk campaigns. Now, for many voters, winning isn’t everything—it’s the only thing.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...matter/671649/

After Trump, the MAGAMorons don't care if their guy is lying. They want to "win" at any cost. Just ask our village idiot.

RickeyM 10-05-2022 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 411487)
Herschel Walker Is Demonstrating the New Law of Politics
Scandals once sunk campaigns. Now, for many voters, winning isn’t everything—it’s the only thing.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...matter/671649/

After Trump, the MAGAMorons don't care if their guy is lying. They want to "win" at any cost. Just ask our village idiot.

As I've said before, the Reich has so demonized the Left, has so pitched them as the enemy that anything against them is A-OK. Cheating to win, violence to achieve their aims, no-problemo. The Repub base used to just hold their noses and go along with it. Now the uncover their noses, and breath in deeply.

Rajoo 10-05-2022 08:06 AM

Left ---> Free thinking people
Right ---> Group thinking people, aka Sheeple.

QED

Rajoo 10-05-2022 08:21 AM

Here is a clip from the always obnoxious (to me) Henry Olsen whose opinions are made after he has twisted himself into knots.

Quote:

The choice between Warnock and Walker isn’t a hard one for Republicans or pro-lifers. Warnock is a solidly progressive Democrat who has largely backed his party’s agenda. That’s disqualifying for any partisan Republican. Warnock also unreservedly supports abortion rights, even reiterating his support for them in responding to Monday’s bombshell report. Walker could be a major disappointment to his voters as a senator, but he couldn’t possibly be as problematic to them as Warnock.
This in short is group think.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ill-it-matter/

Rajoo 10-05-2022 09:04 AM

OPINION: Herschel Walker’s family values

https://www.ajc.com/politics/opinion...KUL2Y5XBEJMRY/

RickeyM 10-06-2022 07:50 AM

So that's that.
 
According to Herschel Walker if the people of Georgia don't elect him they're doomed to an eternity in hell.

https://www.alternet.org/2022/10/herschel-walker/

In addition
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Walker served up a confusing claim, suggesting his popular right wing social media influencer son is actually a liberal.
Don't worry about his son though, Herschel still says he loves his son unconditionally.

GChief 10-06-2022 08:00 AM

I am glad I started lurking here. Being a Purple hat wearer, I get to see how the wackos on both teams act and think. I see the slant is for a blue hat, which is all good, but some do reinforce the fact that both blue and red hats have people that act exactly the same, my observation on here is the edge goes to the blue team for name calling and ridicule, some obviously angry people that seem to have no self-control.

Pio1980 10-06-2022 08:18 AM

A fair amount of the blue venom here is venting from blues in red zones where their opinions and votes have no influence.
I came here for discussions of different perspectives, and to occasionally rant into the void to relieve the pressure of frustration with the fringe right crazies defining the opposition. I never anticipated things getting this bad with two visions of the "original intent" of the FFs being divided between those that seek domination of a white Christian culture theocracy, and everyone else who sees an inclusive dynamic adaptive democracy under law sliding toward open confict and mob rule.

GChief 10-06-2022 08:21 AM

Does not make them the morally superior people they think they are!

And they are just contributing to our disfunction.

donquixote99 10-06-2022 10:55 AM

It is good to avoid insulting people who might, when not hot, be open to civil dialog. This includes people other than the person you are directly addressing who may hear/read what you say.

Rajoo 10-06-2022 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GChief (Post 411531)
I am glad I started lurking here. Being a Purple hat wearer, I get to see how the wackos on both teams act and think. I see the slant is for a blue hat, which is all good, but some do reinforce the fact that both blue and red hats have people that act exactly the same, my observation on here is the edge goes to the blue team for name calling and ridicule, some obviously angry people that seem to have no self-control.

In my opinion, you are resorting to false equivalence. The Republican agenda is based on lies, every one of them beginning with current issues such as inflation, crime, climate change and abortion. Try and prove me wrong.

Even the so called open borders is a Republican scare mongering, the situation has not changed regardless of which party is in power since the 80's. Nor has drugs, except drugs now are more easily synthesized than imported.

As long as there is a demand for workers, illegals will continue to cross our border, these people are desperate to make a living and we desperately need workers. They are not coming here to commit crimes. Also, as long as there is demand for drugs, they will creep across our borders. Supply follows demand.

So when a person lies to me, I call them a liar and move on.

What do you say to a person who tells me that Trump won in 2020 other than you are full of shit.

Trump stealing classified documents is now to be disregarded because he de-classified them? I will call that a BS.

Russia would not have invaded Ukraine if Trump was president? Really? He was the laughing stock for the entire world. I call them MAGAts, short for MAGA morons.

January 6th Insurrection is a first and second moment? Insane Idiots.

What do you say to a bunch of politicians standing behind a placard saying Save America when these are the clowns out to destroy America? FU.

GChief 10-06-2022 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 411546)
In my opinion, you are resorting to false equivalence. The Republican agenda is based on lies, every one of them beginning with current issues such as inflation, crime, climate change and abortion. Try and prove me wrong

I am strictly talking about personal behavior. But since you brought it up, you are wrong to think those are not real and legit concerns to people who are not right-wing wackos. Their politics and views on life happen to be different than yours so you resort to lumping everyone in the wacko box.

donquixote99 10-06-2022 11:52 AM

Quote:

What do you say to a person who tells me that Trump won in 2020 other than you are full of shit.
In many cases they will be a person of normal good will, who is misled. Tell them a thing is not true just because a lot of people on their side say it.

If you tell them they are full of shit, they will just tend to think the same of you, and never believe a thing a blue person says.

GChief 10-06-2022 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 411551)
In many cases they will be a person of normal good will, who is misled. Tell them a thing is not true just because a lot of people on their side say it.

If you tell them they are full of shit, they will just tend to think the same of you, and never believe a thing a blue person says.

The point I am trying to make from my lurking observations. As @Pio1980 called it, the blue venom is strong here and it is no different than the red venom.

Rajoo 10-06-2022 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 411551)
In many cases they will be a person of normal good will, who is misled. Tell them a thing is not true just because a lot of people on their side say it.

If you tell them they are full of shit, they will just tend to think the same of you, and never believe a thing a blue person says.

Sorry DQ, not my style. I have a close friend, an AA buddy who is a Trumper, he said so himself to me. :D

Mind you normally we avoid talking politics, but after the election I did ask him how can you believe Trump won when he lost every court case and every state certified the election results with no claim of fraud whatsoever. For that matter, even Trump's AG Barr claimed that this was one of the cleanest election.

He said with a straight face, "that's because they did not dig deep enough. Don't you want to know if our elections are free and fair?". A Republican calling for fair and free elections? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:.
So you see, regardless of proof they will always believe what they have been told to believe.

Every Trumper I know (and I know quite a few) listens to Faux, only Faux 24/7 and "you are full of shit" and move on is my only option. Otherwise they will bury you with whataboutism and they do not even understand what they are saying. For that matter I can predict what their response will be usually involving Pelosi, Biden, Harris, Biden, Hunter, Hillary, Obama, Newsom while all I inquired was about Trump. Like another question I have asked, "Trump was proven he cannot govern nor is he interested in governing, why do you want him for four more years".

GChief 10-06-2022 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 411559)
"Trump was proven he cannot govern nor is he interested in governing, why do you want him for four more years".

Amen says the nonreligious feller :)

RickeyM 10-06-2022 02:28 PM

Back to the "Herschel Walker - Forced Birther, Actual Liar" topic why do so many Repubs insist on defending this guy when almost every day now something surfaces that he's lying or has lied about?
Guilty of some venom myself but dammit, the Republican party is trying to overthrow our democracy and that pisses me off.

Rajoo 10-06-2022 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 411568)
Back to the "Herschel Walker - Forced Birther, Actual Liar" topic why do so many Repubs insist on defending this guy when almost every day now something surfaces that he's lying or has lied about?
Guilty of some venom myself but dammit, the Republican party is trying to overthrow our democracy and that pisses me off.

Reading a report today on Daily beast, it seems that Herschel also fathered a child with the same woman that he paid to have her abort a previous child, yet the Republican party is rising in full support of Walker (He is our Christian Family Values Man) and he is threatening to sue Daily Beast. Lying is OK but if you do get caught, sue their ass off. May not white out the lie but it may fix the problem from lying.

RickeyM 10-06-2022 02:54 PM

I don't often answer my own question but...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...ke/8194093001/

Quote:

Dana Loesch, a conservative radio host and former spokesperson for the National Rifle Association, put it best this week when she said: “I don’t care if Herschel Walker paid to abort endangered baby eagles. I want control of the Senate.”
This seems to be the position of the Republican party. Convince me I'm wrong.

GChief 10-06-2022 03:16 PM

Isn't that to goal of both parties every election? The red team just decided any means is ok.

Noogies 10-06-2022 04:43 PM

I don't know why any of this is a surprise. How many abortions do you suppose Donald Trump paid for? And the really weird thing is, if somebody came forth with incontrovertible evidence to that effect, his poll numbers would probably go up.

Republican voters have abandoned all pretense of principle.

Rajoo 10-06-2022 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GChief (Post 411573)
Isn't that to goal of both parties every election? The red team just decided any means is ok.


Red Team? You make them sound almost human. :D

To me the Red Team is a group of cannibals intending to devour the Blue Team to eliminate democracy. 4 letter word that.

GChief 10-06-2022 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 411582)
Red Team? You make them sound almost human. :D

To me the Red Team is a group of cannibals intending to devour the Blue Team to eliminate democracy. 4 letter word that.

Then you might be one of the wackos from the other team I have mentioned :p

finnbow 10-06-2022 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 411582)
Red Team? You make them sound almost human. :D

To me the Red Team is a group of cannibals intending to devour the Blue Team to eliminate democracy. 4 letter word that.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeajSUaU...jpg&name=small

Rajoo 10-06-2022 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GChief (Post 411583)
Then you might be one of the wackos from the other team I have mentioned :p

If telling the truth as I see it is makes me a wacko, so be it. A wacko to me is someone who is so deranged that one cannot have a rational discussion with them.

Trumpers have given Trump over $200 Million in his efforts to "stop the steal". What am I supposed to tell them to play nice?

RickeyM 10-06-2022 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GChief (Post 411573)
Isn't that to goal of both parties every election? The red team just decided any means is ok.

It boils down to what they want to do with that control. Currently the GOP platform is based on what Donald tRump wants. They don't care to represent the will of the people.

GChief 10-07-2022 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 411589)
If telling the truth as I see it is makes me a wacko, so be it. A wacko to me is someone who is so deranged that one cannot have a rational discussion with them.

Trumpers have given Trump over $200 Million in his efforts to "stop the steal". What am I supposed to tell them to play nice?

I was busting your balls more than being serious :)

donquixote99 10-07-2022 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 411559)
Sorry DQ, not my style. I have a close friend, an AA buddy who is a Trumper, he said so himself to me. :D

Mind you normally we avoid talking politics, but after the election I did ask him how can you believe Trump won when he lost every court case and every state certified the election results with no claim of fraud whatsoever. For that matter, even Trump's AG Barr claimed that this was one of the cleanest election.

He said with a straight face, "that's because they did not dig deep enough. Don't you want to know if our elections are free and fair?". A Republican calling for fair and free elections? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:.
So you see, regardless of proof they will always believe what they have been told to believe.

Every Trumper I know (and I know quite a few) listens to Faux, only Faux 24/7 and "you are full of shit" and move on is my only option. Otherwise they will bury you with whataboutism and they do not even understand what they are saying. For that matter I can predict what their response will be usually involving Pelosi, Biden, Harris, Biden, Hunter, Hillary, Obama, Newsom while all I inquired was about Trump. Like another question I have asked, "Trump was proven he cannot govern nor is he interested in governing, why do you want him for four more years".

Telling people like that that they are full of shit is true (metaphorically). Now is it necessary? Is it kind? One's statements should not get into the world unless they pass all three gates.

GChief 10-07-2022 07:53 AM

Still need a like button.

Justification for being part of the problem.

Pio1980 10-07-2022 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 411619)
Telling people like that that they are full of shit is true (metaphorically). Now is it necessary? Is it kind? One's statements should not get into the world unless they pass all three gates.

It is accurate.

Rajoo 10-07-2022 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 411619)
Telling people like that that they are full of shit is true (metaphorically). Now is it necessary? Is it kind? One's statements should not get into the world unless they pass all three gates.

True but how is my kindness justified? I am not belligerent, do not get into screaming, shouting and name calling etc. but can and do use sarcasm effectively. Like with any Trumper, "lets talk about someone with a three digit IQ and watch their face turn red".

Another time a highly placed professional telling me that "Trump was the best damn president this country ever had", and my response was "what did he do while in office other than tweet all day". Another line I use is name one cabinet member who was qualified,. I am simply tired of a discourse with Trumpers, they only repeat what they hear on Faux, specifically Hannity and Carlson.


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