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bobabode 09-27-2022 04:59 PM

Florida Staring Down The Barrel of Ian
 
Cat 3 or 4 hurricane Ian headed up the west coast of Florida.

Take care. :(

bobabode 09-27-2022 05:51 PM

If you can get out of harm's way? Pack up your family/pets and haul ass. This one is going to swamp the Ft. Myers area with heavy storm surge. 8' - 12'?

RickeyM 09-28-2022 11:00 AM

They say it's within 2-mph of going to a CAT-5 storm. I'm hoping for the best for those who can't get out of Ian's way.

finnbow 09-29-2022 12:21 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd1raqGX...jpg&name=small

Chicks 09-29-2022 12:33 PM

Tread on us, please. Florida needs a new soci@lism-friendly slogan after Hurricane Ian

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/...a/10458601002/

The hypocrisy of today's "conservatives". :rolleyes:

RickeyM 09-29-2022 02:14 PM

I know the article is satire but Ron is playing nice for now. He's acting like a real governor but I'm sure it won't last. He can't help himself. Florida could sure use that 12M he spent shanghaiing immigrants in the coming weeks.

Oerets 09-29-2022 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 411336)
I know the article is satire but Ron is playing nice for now. He's acting like a real governor but I'm sure it won't last. He can't help himself. Florida could sure use that 12M he spent shanghaiing immigrants in the coming weeks.

And the extra helping hands to do cleanup, repairs...:D

Chicks 09-29-2022 05:46 PM

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Chicks 09-30-2022 01:20 PM

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Rajoo 09-30-2022 04:35 PM

My message to DeSantis:

Eff Florida, Eff Floridians and Fuck you too DeSantis.
Too bad the storm did not split the state in two.

A very close friend lives in N. Palm Beach on the inter coastal waterway and they used to get incensed by the Trumpers campaigning for T-2020 from their boats using magaphones at all hours of the evening late into the night. The procession of boats was an endless yelling nonsense to the people living on these waterways since most of them are liberals. Fuck those MAGAts too.

In the MAGA cesspool of Florida, Palm Beach county is an oasis for liberals. If you may recall, "hanging chad" was invented here. Our daughter was born there and if someone were to call her a Floridian, watch out. :D

Pio1980 09-30-2022 05:05 PM

At least, now DeSatan has a real job instead of grandstanding "owning the lib's" wasting Florida revenue best spent on public services like disaster relief.

finnbow 09-30-2022 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 411369)
At least, now DeSatan has a real job instead of grandstanding "owning the lib's" wasting Florida revenue best spent on public services like disaster relief.

As a Congressman, DeSantis voted against aid for victims of Hurricane Sandy in New Jersey and New York. Now, he's begging hat in hand for federal largess. Feckin' hypocrite.

RickeyM 09-30-2022 06:48 PM

Well this didn't take long...
 
The Deep State Did It!

https://www.mediaite.com/online/two-...nish-desantis/

Oh sure, instead of ending the drought in the western states or putting out forest fires, lets get even with DeSantis by raining down death and destruction upon millions of Floridians.
It's bad enough that people strive to put such balderdash out there, there are QAnitwits that will believe it.

Rajoo 09-30-2022 07:22 PM

^^Deep state has moved on from Chem Trails to microchips in vaccine to now DARPA?

finnbow 09-30-2022 07:54 PM

What's really amazing is that Donald Trump, who claims to be worth $10 billion, hasn't done or said shit about the devastating hurricane that just struck his newly-adopted home state. OTOH, if he were to do something seemingly charitable (which he is no longer legally permitted to do in NY), you know for sure that it would be a grift.

finnbow 10-01-2022 09:01 PM

Florida Republican Senators Marco Rubio and Rick Scott urged Senate leaders for money to rebuild state after Hurricane Ian. Then when the vote came, ⁦Scott voted against the funds and ⁦Rubio didn’t show up for the vote. Shameless hypocrites.

Rajoo 10-01-2022 10:14 PM

Give them a break. Rubio was at a Hurricane party and Scott thought the aid was for Puerto Rico.

finnbow 10-02-2022 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 411396)
Give them a break. Rubio was at a Hurricane party and Scott thought the aid was for Puerto Rico.

And now I read that every single Florida Republican in Congress refused to vote for Hurricane Ian relief funds (while at the same time many lobbied for it as did DeSantis).

Pio1980 10-02-2022 08:19 AM

Hurricane Ian Showcases GOP’s Disaster Aid Hypocrisy
https://www.thedailybeast.com/hurric...isy?ref=scroll

finnbow 10-02-2022 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 411398)
Hurricane Ian Showcases GOP’s Disaster Aid Hypocrisy
https://www.thedailybeast.com/hurric...isy?ref=scroll

My favorite Bible passage is the one where Jesus votes against disaster aid for his own followers and then goes on Twitter to blame Joe Biden for not getting anything done.

donquixote99 10-02-2022 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 411397)
And now I read that every single Florida Republican in Congress refused to vote for Hurricane Ian relief funds (while at the same time many lobbied for it as did DeSantis).

They knew it would pass anyway, so they were free to be stupidly consistent with previous conservative "fuck your needs" votes.

Rajoo 10-02-2022 02:11 PM

Biden should do the bare minimum and say "ask your representatives why they voted no". But he won't, even though this is a golden opportunity to own the Repugnants.

And send brooms to DeSantis and say "clean up yourself".

People living in Martha's Vineyard should send DeSatan a truckload of brooms and say go f..k yourself.

donquixote99 10-02-2022 03:02 PM

Send paper towles.

Rajoo 10-02-2022 04:19 PM

Forgot about JT's Larry Bird imitation in PR.

Pio1980 10-03-2022 05:25 PM

DeSantis asked the feds for hurricane relief. But he’s long used their cash.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/1...ities-00060020

RickeyM 10-04-2022 12:25 PM

After Ian, and now...

Alligators and snakes, oh my. :(

I guess mother nature's reclaiming her own.

All those nice pretty houses built right on the water's edge. All those dwellings built on barrier islands. So much development on fine loamy sand.

Rajoo 10-04-2022 01:20 PM

Sanibel island is not an island but a sand bar. Nature is reclaiming it.

RickeyM 10-04-2022 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 411469)
Sanibel island is not an island but a sand bar. Nature is reclaiming it.

They allowed people to build on a sand bar?!?

https://www.sanibelisland.com/

finnbow 10-04-2022 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 411480)
They allowed people to build on a sand bar?!?

https://www.sanibelisland.com/

All of the barrier islands on the East Coast are sand bars. Hell, Miami Beach is (mostly) a man-made sandbar made by dredging sand up from Biscayne Bay in the 1920's. Even worse than these sandbars are the places like Cape Coral that was basically oceanfront marsh that was drained by canals and left horrifically exposed to the elements. Here's a really good article about Florida coastline development in general and Cape Coral in particular.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...estate/671629/

bobabode 10-04-2022 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 411481)
All of the barrier islands on the East Coast are sand bars. Hell, Miami Beach is (mostly) a man-made sandbar made by dredging sand up from Biscayne Bay in the 1920's. Even worse than these sandbars are the places like Cape Coral that was basically oceanfront marsh that was drained by canals and left horrifically exposed to the elements. Here's a really good article about Florida coastline development in general and Cape Coral in particular.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...estate/671629/

Meanwhile we bluestaters are obligated to funding rebuilding these peckerwood's castles built on sand while they talk smack with their hands out.

Florida is a lost cause with sea levels rising. Every 'King tide' has the ocean pouring out of manholes into the street. How the feck is that sustainable? smh

finnbow 10-04-2022 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 411482)
Meanwhile we bluestaters are obligated to funding rebuilding these peckerwood's castles built on sand while they talk smack with their hands out.

Florida is a lost cause with sea levels rising. Every 'King tide' has the ocean pouring out of manholes into the street. How the feck is that sustainable? smh

The insurance companies are aware of the risk and price flood insurance accordingly in Florida, resulting in only ~20% of homeowners in Florida having flood insurance, leaving the rest of us to foot the bill for their climate catastrophes.

Rajoo 10-04-2022 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 411482)
Meanwhile we bluestaters are obligated to funding rebuilding these peckerwood's castles built on sand while they talk smack with their hands out.

Florida is a lost cause with sea levels rising. Every 'King tide' has the ocean pouring out of manholes into the street. How the feck is that sustainable? smh

When we used to live in Florida, hurricanes were fun and two day party. I used to board all my windows, but later wised up and just boarded south and east facing windows, rest were taped. Yard needs to be cleared of flying objects and pool drained half way. Food, candles, two cases of beer and its party time, except when we lost power, then its worry time.

I doubt we could withstand a hurricane today considering the ferocity and the sustained damage

RickeyM 10-04-2022 09:38 PM

I saw a story about a resident who decided to ride out the storm. He carefully laid in stores of water, food and gas for his generator. He said he was ready for Ian. He was in fine shape, right up until the storm surge came and swept his house away.

Pio1980 10-05-2022 06:29 AM

Every time the GC gets hit, I'm reminded of my read of J. D. McDonald's Condominium.
https://www.amazon.com/Condominium-N.../dp/B00E2RXHUW

finnbow 10-05-2022 07:51 AM

Hurricane Ian’s wrath made clear that Florida faces some of the most severe consequences of climate change anywhere in the country. But the state’s top elected leaders opposed the most significant climate legislation to pass Congress — laws to help fortify states against, and recover from, climate disasters, and confront their underlying cause: the burning of fossil fuels.

Senators Marco Rubio and Rick Scott voted against last year’s bipartisan infrastructure law, which devotes some $50 billion to help states better prepare for events like Ian, because they said it was wasteful. And in August, they joined every fellow Republican in the Senate to oppose a new climate law that invests $369 billion in reducing greenhouse gas emissions, the largest such effort in the country’s history.

At the same time, Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis has blocked the state’s pension fund from taking climate change into account when making investment decisions, saying that politics should be absent from financial calculations.

In the aftermath of Ian, those leaders want federal help to rebuild their state — but don’t want to discuss the underlying problem that is making hurricanes more powerful and destructive.


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/04/c...icane-ian.html

whell 10-05-2022 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 411496)

In the aftermath of Ian, those leaders want federal help to rebuild their state — but don’t want to discuss the underlying problem that is making hurricanes more powerful and destructive.


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/04/c...icane-ian.html

More nonsense about "climate change making hurricanes worse? The data doesn't support that. See here: http://www.politicalchat.org/showpos...&postcount=402

finnbow 10-05-2022 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 411500)
More nonsense about "climate change making hurricanes worse? The data doesn't support that. See here: http://www.politicalchat.org/showpos...&postcount=402

Actually, it does. Sorry to confuse you with the facts. You really shouldn't rely on Trump, talk radio, Fox News or other wingnut news sources to help shape your views on climate change.

https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-war...nd-hurricanes/

https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uplo..._SPM_FINAL.pdf

RickeyM 10-05-2022 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 411509)
Actually, it does. Sorry to confuse you with the facts. You really shouldn't rely on Trump, talk radio, Fox News or other wingnut news sources to help shape your views on climate change.

https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-war...nd-hurricanes/

https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uplo..._SPM_FINAL.pdf

Finn, some facts are confusing :confused:

https://media.makeameme.org/created/...ome-59c5c6.jpg

whell 10-05-2022 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 411509)
Actually, it does. Sorry to confuse you with the facts. You really shouldn't rely on Trump, talk radio, Fox News or other wingnut news sources to help shape your views on climate change.

https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-war...nd-hurricanes/

https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uplo..._SPM_FINAL.pdf

Ignore what I posted - likely because it undercuts your chosen narrative - post your own references that support your narrative, and then spike the football with a smarmy comment. Nice job! :rolleyes:

finnbow 10-05-2022 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 411515)
Ignore what I posted - likely because it undercuts your chosen narrative - post your own references that support your narrative, and then spike the football with a smarmy comment. Nice job! :rolleyes:


It is not my narrative. It is that of the world scientific community while your narrative is that of talk radio.


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