VP of Pfizer arrested after document dump
 

VP of Pfizer arrested after document dump


An interesting snip:

"A judge has granted a media blackout on request of Rady’s lawyers, and Google is suppressing search results. Rady faces life in prison if convicted."

More info:

Pfizer documents: Over 1,200 people died during Pfizer vaccine trials

Includes a link to the actual documents.

1223 dead from the Pfizer vaccine? Seems like this should be frontpage news everywhere. So, a quick Google search of the author's name revealed that he's a Canadian rightwingnutter/ Trump supporter named Keean Bexte who has a somewhat sordid past.

Maybe others believe this unsupported crap but I'll take a hard pass. Thanks.

ps I've had 4 shots of the Pfizer vaccine and no ill effects.

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Just the usual made-up nonsense from the Insane Clown, who either doesn’t know any better, or, more likely, is a shill.

A quick Google search (1200 dead from Pfizer vaccine) shows that it's an unsupported conspiracy theory. smh

I've had no vaccine and didn't do masks. I also had no ill effects.

But I'll add Two things:
1. I assumed this article was unreliable but...
2. I trust the sources more than I trust CNN.

Seriously.

I find the biggest differences between many of us here when we disagree is what sources we trust. Thanks to my sources, I fully expected the outcome we actually got - before they even went to trial - regarding Zimmerman and Rittenhouse. A lot of people couldn't say that. My sources seem pretty solid. Some of them, anyway. 🤣

https://vancouvertimes.org/about-us/

Just goes to show how incredibly ignorant the Insane Clown is. Sad! :rolleyes:

Yes then maybe ppl wouldnt be trying to force us all to get this garbage!!

So you want made-up disinformation to be front page news?

Are you saying that the vaccine is garbage? :confused:

1) The OP story is a satirical piece. It's not "disinformation" and it's not "fake news" as that term is currently used. Some of the stories in the Vancouver Times are funny when viewed as straight satire. This one, not so much.

2) The vaccine is not garbage. It was, however, oversold in terms of what it could and could not do.

I have one daughter with Asthma and my oldest was born with Down Syndrome. Both would be at heightened risk if infected, so we all got vaxxed because originally the vaccine was said to reduce the risk of infection AND transmission.

Subsequent studies, i,e,. Lancet October 2021, found little if any difference between the transmission rates of vaxxed versus non-vaxxed populations. This may have been due to the difference between the alpha and delta COVID variants, but some of the "fact-checking" sites were still quoting sources saying that transmission rates were reduced by getting vaxxed.

Still, it was/is worthwhile to get vaxxed to reduce the likelihood of contracting COVID.

Not true. Its clinical trials did not test for transmission and Pfizer never said it did. It was tested to see if it was safe and if it prevented disease (and it is and does) and that's what Pfizer said. This latest meme is yet another tempest in a teapot that just popped up in the last couple of weeks in the wingnut echo chamber.

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ne-trial-noth/

;)Less infected because of the vaccine, less transmission......


Sad how there are people who can't handle the truth, so will take comfort in lies. saying they are entitled to their beliefs..

Then try to convince others of the lie.

A lie is just that, a lie.

Look it up if you don't believe me.

Oh you get you info from the dream weavers.....

Reasonable clarification of an important point.

You couldn't have read and understood the posts refuting the insane ones posts and then posted what you did unless you're an anti-vaxxer troll.

Im sorry I dont wanna make anyone mad... I dont know what a troll is but I assume its a trouble maker.....

Ill back out of this thread :)

Come on, man. Who are you kidding? Everyone knows what a troll is.

I didn't know what a troll was until Dan (427) accused me of being a troll on AK.

Those were the days my friends.

It's too late, now.

They probably don't even keep count of all the people that die from medical experiments. Hell, they can't even keep track of the people that disappear in the national parks. 411s they call them.

:eek:

Meaning of Vaccine From Oxford Dictionary:

Where does it imply anything about transmission? In fact it was amplified that if a person is immunized, the disease can still be transmitted, which is why masks were mandated and/or recommended.

In my company here with 25+ people, all of us were (multi) vaccinated except for one MAGAt. Once the masks came off, more than half the people got sick with Covid, all of them with very mild symptoms. The MAGAt got it last and he was out for TWO weeks with bad case of Covid.

People tend to think of "providing immunity" as "providing complete immunity." And similarly of "preventing disease" as "completely preventing disease." But the situation is not binary, and disease of reduced severity is one on the possible vaccine results.

I'm getting annoyed with the whole thing.

Had to get my immunization card to visit my dad at the nursing home. Got to the nursing home and they didn't want to look at the card. They let anyone in just by checking 'yes' on a sheet of paper.

Then my employer made immunization mandatory for a short while before the Supreme Court ruled against this. The people who weren't immunized (the majority of employees) could just tell them 'hell no'. But because I said yes, I had to prove I wasn't lying. Had to send a picture of my card on a smart phone app that didn't work. Took me three weeks to get confirmation that my employer had the proof they needed.

Then I was part of a mandatory health screening at work. Had to give myself the nasal torture of the swabs. The results came back negative, I said 'I guess the vaccine works'. They said, 'Oh, you were vaccinated ? You didn't have to do the swab test. We had no way of knowing'. I was even carrying my card in my pocket that day, but they didn't ask if I was vaccinated prior to the swabs.

I'm not getting a dozen shots annually for every possible mutation of Covid.

Wants some cheese with that whine?

Medium Cheddar, wedged just so. Room temperature.

:)

WTF!
You need to contact NETFLiX.
That is a super script.

Maybe I could just over-dub a Lauren Boebert video.

She's better looking.

When it comes to Covid, best is to cut the authorities some slack. To begin with, the disease was thrust upon us with very little warning. And the disease proved to be quite fatal initially which causes fear and confusion. Under the circumstances, the medical and scientific community has performed an amazing job of developing vaccines.

Medicine is not an exact science. And Trumpers have made it a lot more difficult than it was needed to be. So best is to comply and not question the logic or the justification.

A month ago I got carded for buying Clausthaler non-alcoholic beer (because technically there cannot be a 0% beer) since the store had a strict age verification policy. :D

'First World Problems to Moan About'?

You must be butt ugly then.;) She's a skank.

Yes, the fact checkers are running around lately with this info. But a year or more ago, claims of the vax reducing transmission were all the rage:

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...finds-n1280583

And here a fact checker is debunking a claim that the vax doesn't reduce transmission, beccause "healthcare experts" say that it does:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...on/6403678001/

"This is false information," Akiko Iwasaki, a professor of immunobiology and molecular, cellular and developmental biology at Yale University, said in an email. "Vaccines provide significant protection from 'getting it' – infection – and 'spreading it' – transmission – even against the delta variant."

Back then, this was one of a number of claims about COVID that the so-called experts got wrong. And when people did ask legit questions, people like you were right there to shout them down. Sometimes asking questions get the facts to come out eventually. I know that's troubling for you to hear, but it's true.

Not one of these statements came from Pfizer or the FDA, the only experts involved in the clinical trials and licensing of these vaccines. Lots of people, even so-called "experts", said a lot of things including COVID could be cured by drinking bleach, sticking a lightbulb up your ass, taking Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine or that the vaccine had a microchip in it.

And yes, this did blow up in the wingnut echo chamber just 2 weeks ago and was dutifully parroted by you.

Not one of these statements came from Pfizer, right. Nor did Pfizer do anything to correct the narrative when Fauci and company were calling vaxxed folks a "dead end" for the virus. The narrative may not have come from Pfizer, but it did come from the government's COVID point man. Maybe Fauci should have advocated sticking a light bulb up the ass?

“So even though there are breakthrough infections with vaccinated people, almost always the people are asymptomatic and the level of virus is so low it makes it extremely unlikely — not impossible but very, very low likelihood — that they’re going to transmit it,” Fauci said.

“When you get vaccinated, you not only protect your own health and that of the family but also you contribute to the community health by preventing the spread of the virus throughout the community,” Fauci said. “In other words, you become a dead end to the virus. And when there are a lot of dead ends around, the virus is not going to go anywhere. And that’s when you get a point that you have a markedly diminished rate of infection in the community.”

So, you're blaming the "wingnut fringe" for precisely what, here? Folks who questioned the official narrative were lambasted by the media, and people like you. The media and folks like you were calling them "anti-vaxers" for asking legit questions when the official narrative didn't seem to add up. Now that Pfizer is coming forward, a year and a half later, and saying "golly, we never said that", that's supposed to make up months and months of silence when the Fauci's of the world were getting it wrong? And the folks who are pointing the fact that this has been the official narrative all along are still to be chastised?

Apparently if you're a leftist, you really think you can have it both ways. :rolleyes:

The bottom line is that Pfizer and the FDA were the only voices that mattered and they never once claimed that the vaccine stopped transmission. Period. There are conflicting studies saying it did or it didn't, but it really doesn't matter. The fact remains that the vaccine was (and is) the best thing that one can do to avoid getting very sick (or dying) from COVID.

I can't help but think that this latest brouhaha in the wingnut echo chamber is intended to draw an equivalency with all the lunatics on the right who claimed UV light, Chlorox, hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin killed the (microchip-laden) virus after belief in those claims resulted in higher deaths in red areas of the country. Somehow it's got to be the "experts'" fault and not their own.

BigElCat's moan is underlined with humor.

Heh ! He said..."first world".

My dust bowl Red State is stepping up.

:)

I am not an anti vaxer. Initially, I was hesitant because of the speed of its availability to the public. However, later I became sympathetic to the reasons for the speed.

My final push: My mom, who is more than 100 years old, took the jab.

Best wishes to you and your mom!

Thank you!

BS. It wasn't Pfizer and the FDA on TV and the news outlets everyday during 2020 and 2021 COVID answering questions from the media. It was largely Birx,Fauci and Adams,followed locally by here in MI by Frau Whitmer and the State Health Dept chair whose name escapes me at the moment. The FDA Chair was on the COVID response team, and had every opportunity to put out communication on this but didn't. Biden's team never corrected it either.


I'm sure lumping all this together is helpful for you rhetorically, but that's about all the mileage you'll get from it.