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bobabode 01-10-2022 03:08 PM

The US Army vs Peckerwood Militias in N. Carolina
 
"Guerrilla war exercise to be fought across rural North Carolina counties, Army warns" Charlotte Observer

https://nordot.app/85333095800736972...22757532812385

Hmmm. An unsubtle message?

Chicks 01-10-2022 04:54 PM

"Called Robin Sage, the exercise serves as a final test for Special Forces Qualification Course training and it places candidates in a politically unstable country known as Pineland."

Brings back memories of time spent at Duke University in NC eons ago. Hated the surrounding area, because it's full of pine trees - very ominous feeling, claustrophobic driving through the area.

BigElCat 01-10-2022 05:12 PM

Makes me think of 'Southern Comfort'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j-zKSiezvA

I can see why the timing might be perceived as a message. These training exercises have been going on for decades, though.

donquixote99 01-10-2022 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 403836)
"Called Robin Sage, the exercise serves as a final test for Special Forces Qualification Course training and it places candidates in a politically unstable country known as Pineland."

Brings back memories of time spent at Duke University in NC eons ago. Hated the surrounding area, because it's full of pine trees - very ominous feeling, claustrophobic driving through the area.

Hmmm. Love natural pine tree landscapes. But recall how the interstates of Mississippi were planted with uniform rows of pine trees all up and down the sides of them. I figure it was to screen off views of sharecropper shacks. That gave me the claustrophobic feeling you describe.

BigElCat 01-11-2022 12:08 AM

Claustrophobia will drop way down on the list once the banjos start playing.

https://c.tenor.com/GT1MSfXa4iQAAAAM...hill-billy.gif

Pio1980 01-11-2022 08:08 AM

What bothers me is the undercurrent mentality of a portion of the elite combat arms. Will they folliw lawful orders, or will they follow the "patriotic" demagogues when it's show time?

BlueStreak 01-11-2022 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 403847)
What bothers me is the undercurrent mentality of a portion of the elite combat arms. Will they folliw lawful orders, or will they follow the "patriotic" demagogues when it's show time?

Excellent question. It seems some of the military folks are confused as to what they are actually supposed to do. Some will point out that their oath is to follow the orders of the president and chain of command, some will tell you it's to defend the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic. What do you do when it's the president who poses the threat? The domestic enemy IS the POTUS? It is possible that blindly following orders is precisely what we SHOULDN'T do.

I believe the weight should lay more heavily on the latter. Defend the Constitution and the people from a wannabe tyrant over simply following orders from said wannabe tyrant. How else can we defend the nation from Dictatorship?

Think about it.

BigElCat 01-11-2022 11:25 AM

The best precedent we have is when the BLM protestors approached the White House. Trump called on the military to bolster security and they refused.

We'd have to watch the Joint Chiefs of Staff to see if there is a shift toward Trump loyalists. Of course, this is contingent on Trump even being elected in 2024.

The only "undercurrent mentality" in the US elite forces (that I've ever heard of) is toward Neo-Nazism. Don't even know if that is true.

Chicks 01-11-2022 12:05 PM

DoJ creates unit to counter domestic terrorism after Capitol attack
‘We face an elevated threat from domestic violent extremists,’ says assistant attorney general of the national security division

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...stic-terrorism

Long overdue. This will, of course, be fought against by the Trumpkin wing of the Repube party, who depend on the votes of these peckerwoods.

Oerets 01-11-2022 01:41 PM

One would think this type of training is already common practice. Just now instead of Iraq or Afghanistan being used as a backdrop. It will now have an all to familiar look to it.

Preconditioning the troops to new surroundings.

bobabode 01-11-2022 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BigElCat (Post 403850)
The best precedent we have is when the BLM protestors approached the White House. Trump called on the military to bolster security and they refused.

We'd have to watch the Joint Chiefs of Staff to see if there is a shift toward Trump loyalists. Of course, this is contingent on Trump even being elected in 2024.

The only "undercurrent mentality" in the US elite forces (that I've ever heard of) is toward Neo-Nazism. Don't even know if that is true.

That's some "precedent" you're spinning up out of whole cloth, dude. (rolls eyes)

First off, the peaceful protesters were gathered in a park across the street from 1600 Pennsylvania where people have gathered to protest for decades. That's the closest they came to "approaching" your Ill Douche T'Rumpolini.

Then they were attacked by fat boy's bullies and chased from the people's park in a hail of tear gas and rubber bullets. All so el Lardo could parade around with an upside down bible clutched in his short fat fingers.

Nice try.:rolleyes:

Oerets 01-11-2022 03:05 PM

I have little illusions about what would now be remembered about the 6th. If a group of anti cult protesters had shown up and taunted them. Just a little enough for their master to call out the "crowd control forces". Then enforce martial law, fait accompli!

donquixote99 01-11-2022 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 403852)
One would think this type of training is already common practice. Just now instead of Iraq or Afghanistan being used as a backdrop. It will now have an all to familiar look to it.

Preconditioning the troops to new surroundings.

Reading the article, this training in this area has been going on for years and years. Some while back a dunderhead deputy shot a couple of troopers. Thought they were invaders or something. It's a Special Forces thing.

BigElCat 01-11-2022 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 403853)
That's some "precedent" you're spinning up out of whole cloth, dude. (rolls eyes)

First off, the peaceful protesters were gathered in a park across the street from 1600 Pennsylvania where people have gathered to protest for decades. That's the closest they came to "approaching" your Ill Douche T'Rumpolini.

Then they were attacked by fat boy's bullies and chased from the people's park in a hail of tear gas and rubber bullets. All so el Lardo could parade around with an upside down bible clutched in his short fat fingers.

Nice try.:rolleyes:

Trump used the DC National Guard to assist Federal Police in pushing back the protestors. He tried to use the US military, but they refused.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...-idUSKBN23E0DY

bobabode 01-11-2022 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigElCat (Post 403858)
Trump used the DC National Guard to assist Federal Police in pushing back the protestors. He tried to use the US military, but they refused.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...-idUSKBN23E0DY

:confused: There was no 'pushing back' of protesters. The protesters were peacefully protesting within a fenced in park when they were attacked by the one term loser's bully boys firing pepperballs, teargas and rubber bullets. I watched it in realtime. As I recall the slumlord president had his joint chief dressed up in camo along for the waddle to the church for his photo op once they cleared the park.

BigElCat 01-11-2022 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 403863)
:confused: There was no 'pushing back' of protesters. The protesters were peacefully protesting within a fenced in park when they were attacked by the one term loser's bully boys firing pepperballs, teargas and rubber bullets. I watched it in realtime. As I recall the slumlord president had his joint chief dressed up in camo along for the waddle to the church for his photo op once they cleared the park.

I watched it in realtime, too. We can watch quite a bit of it again.

The action took place in the streets, as well as, the park. Arrests were made.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkew_ngvps0&t=128s

My point, here, is the Military declined to get involved, even when Trump want them to. The National Guard was there, but not in big numbers.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...-idUSKBN23E0DY

bobabode 01-11-2022 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigElCat (Post 403864)
I watched it in realtime, too. We can watch quite a bit of it again.

The action took place in the streets, as well as, the park. Arrests were made.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkew_ngvps0&t=128s

My point, here, is the Military declined to get involved, even when Trump want them to. The National Guard was there, but not in big numbers.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...-idUSKBN23E0DY

Nice wheels on that goalpost. Hemi powered?

RickeyM 01-12-2022 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 403866)
Nice wheels on that goalpost. Hemi powered?

Now now, be nice :D:D

BigElCat 01-12-2022 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 403866)
Nice wheels on that goalpost. Hemi powered?

Slant six.

I'll have to adjust for windage...lead a little bit in my attempt to make a point after.

:)

BigElCat 01-12-2022 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 403857)
Thought they were invaders or something.

It's a good thing they didn't have their heads stuck in a fence.

Jes sayin'

bobabode 01-12-2022 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigElCat (Post 403870)
Slant six.

I'll have to adjust for windage...lead a little bit in my attempt to make a point after.

:)

I'd cut back on the pickled eggs while allowing for windage. :D

donquixote99 01-12-2022 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 403863)
:confused: There was no 'pushing back' of protesters. The protesters were peacefully protesting within a fenced in park when they were attacked by the one term loser's bully boys firing pepperballs, teargas and rubber bullets. I watched it in realtime. As I recall the slumlord president had his joint chief dressed up in camo along for the waddle to the church for his photo op once they cleared the park.

I think military fashion now is that most workdays, even the JCS goes around in camo.

RickeyM 01-12-2022 03:15 PM

The military gent who walked with Rump, and yes I've forgotten his name and title, said the next day he regretted showing up in uniform that day.

BigElCat 01-14-2022 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 403882)
The military gent who walked with Rump, and yes I've forgotten his name and title, said the next day he regretted showing up in uniform that day.

Just imagine the conversation between Trump and his 'military advisors'. They'd have to 'soft sell' the Commander-in-Chief.

Trump, "I need 10,000 of your finest in DC, ready to kill".

Advisor 1) "Sir, we can't machine gun the Black Folks AND the White Liberals at the same time. You'd lose 15, maybe 20 percent of your political base".

Advisor 2) "The ladies would find you less handsome".

Advisor 3) "Even Fox News would turn against you for three or four days".

Trump, "Hmmm".


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