Kyle Rittenhouse Trial
 

Has anyone been keeping up with this trial? I watched some of it on tv yesterday and it seems to me the judge is using every power he has to tip the decision in favor of Rittenhouse. Maybe Rittenhouse is innocent and maybe he is guilty, but, I think the judge should be neutral.

I was wondering about that myself. He did seem to go rather hard on the ADA for trying to use something that was disallowed. We'll see if he allows the defense motion for a mistrial.

I also get the impression that this judge is looking for any justification for a mistrial with prejudice. If this were anybody, non white with a AR15 that shot and killed....story would be much different.

Kyle looks to be well coached and those crocodile tears didn't fool me.

Look for "Babyface Rittenhouse" to become a celebrity on Reich-Wing media real soon.

Isn't it obvious?
His phone rings in the middle of the trial with "God Bless the USA" as a ring tone......... He interrupts the trial to put on a "Thank the Veterans" show......
He shouts at the prosecuting attorney for suggesting Rittenhouse went to Kenosha looking for trouble...(Which is exactly what he did.)

"I'm not sure what you're up to......!" Not sure what he's up to? He's a prosecuting attorney, he's trying to prosecute. DER.

Everything about this judge screams WINGNUT and this trial is a travesty.

Already is.

Even with the flawed prosecution in this trial, I still don't see how a jury can acquit Rittenhouse. Who has three confrontations in less than ten minutes in which he has to defend himself by shooting someone? Nothing about what he did that night makes any sense except that he was looking for trouble.

OJ got away with murder.

Kyle's trial has nothing to do with justice. Welcome to tabloid America.

Guess when a active shooter at a school gets confronted by people wanting to stop them. The shooter is able to then kill, being justified as feeling threaten....

Let's see, checks notes...
Standing in a crowd of protesters with an illegally held AR-15, cocked and loaded.
Then gets in a tussle, shoots the guy in the head and runs away.
Get's pursued by people trying to apprehend him and to get away shoots some of them too. Babyface Rittenhouse couldn't have wished for a better (for him) judge.
Here come da' judge!

The judge dropped the 'illegal possession' charge, because minors are allowed to carry that type of gun in Wisconsin for the purpose of hunting.

How stupid ! If Kyle was hunting people during a protest, then he's guilty of murder.

IMHO, that's the only charge that should have stuck.

I watched the prosecution go on and on about how inhumane full-metal jacket bullets are, because they could cause more collateral damage to people in the vicinity of the shooting. He suggested that expanding, hollow tip bullets would have been a better choice. That was so stupid, it seemed to say that Kyle was within his rights shooting the primary targets. He was supposed to be arguing that it was murder.

I disagree with other posters that Kyle was looking for trouble. He was looking for excitement, perhaps, but his intent was to deter the rioting. A Dudley Do-Right complex.

If a guy points a gun at you. Stupidly you smart off to him.
He then shoot and kills you. Then others near by go after shooter to detain. Get shot one killed other wounded.....

Just how can the shooter claim self defense for causing the incident?

If so then the next school shooter can offer the same one.....when confronted by bystanders.

Kyle's 'intent' was not akin to a random mass killer's 'intent'. Almost the exact opposite.

The first guy he shot wasn't just mouthing off, he was approaching Kyle with the apparent intent of disarming him. Kyle was running away, didn't point his weapon until the guy ran at him.

Kyle intended his gun to be a deterrent. Instead it made him a target.

Kyle was out looking for trouble and it found him pure. If this was the prosecution's focus, Kyle's lawyer would be pleading for a bargain.

Agreed. An incompetent prosecution only focusing on the charges getting hung up on details while forgetting what the intent was. This case can end up in a mistrial, the judge is looking for a loophole while going through the motions playing God.

If Rittenhouse hadn't decided to take up his shootin' iron he wouldn't be on trial today. If you noticed, no one else did any shooting that night. Rittenhouse had no business there doing what he was doing. He was there playing armed vigilante. He thought he had the right to use deadly force against people doing property damage. Some people felt the police should be doing this and since they weren't, they'd step in and do it for them.
If you're protecting property you position yourself between the property and persons indent on doing damage., If you're going hunting you take high ground and wait for your prey.

This kid had no legit reason to be there let alone with a AR. Was he trained in crowd control? Weapons?
He was a wanna be Billy Bad @ss, playing dress up that night!

Was completely in over his head and caused the incident to occur. Witnesses stated he was waving the rifle around pointing at the crowd beforehand. (Aggravated Assault with a Deadly Weapon)
Seeing this child with the AR. Then in fear the crowd wanted to disarm him. Once he shot the first victim the crowd went after him in earnest. To disarm him.

I hope the civil trials for damages is where the justice for the victims will be. For I fear there will be little hope of him getting the life sentence so rightfully deserves.

Matt "The Perv" Gaetz has expressed interest in hiring him as an intern. They both belong in jail.

They need a verdict that will somewhat appease the public.

I say the authorities keep his gun, and ban Kyle from ever having a gun in Wisconsin.

Maybe even tell him to stay out of Wisconsin for 2 years.

The judge could announce it in a harsh manner, banging the gavel will glaring at Kyle. He (the judge) would have to hit a low register with his weaselly voice.

I'm following the Aubery trial as well.

Those defendants need some jail time just for being stupid.

With the history in this country, and being in Georgia after all.

White men with guns chasing a black man down. Then shooting him when chooses to resist .....

How dare him they were thinking!

Think of what was going through his mind in the last minutes of his life.

Ahmaud was not one to back down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v7o_6uI9R0&t=7s

So...

The cop was a BDK.

Being a long hair most of my, well all of my adult life. A driver of a VW, and a van in the 70's know all to well the actions of over zealous PD.

Can see where it gets to be to much after happening it seems all the time. For me all I needed to do was cut and shave drive another vehicle.... some do not have that option.

Breaking news. Kyle was acquitted on all charges.

He we go with the mob rule / riot BS.

I think how this will impact other gun toten Billy Badass wannabes should also be a concern.

I thought the first cop was fairly cool. Didn't go ape shit over the smell of pot.

They made him walk away from his car, because his driver's license was suspended.

The second cop was Keystone all the way. He tried to taser Ahmaud, then called out "Warning, warning" after it failed to shoot the prongs out.

Overall, they were more professional than the Rednecks that killed him.

It's rioter hunting season for minors in Wisconsin. No tags necessary. Bring your own AR 15.

How so? Looking at who Babyface murdered I don't see it.

EDIT: but then Wisconsin is a bit of a protest hot spot.

I bet that Taser misfire really pissed off that cop. Visions of a resisting arrest charge thwarted

I'd say additional jail time just for being stupid.

This country is lost.

Oh well, it was pretty good for a while there.

I won't have to be around too much longer to experience the decline, but I feel bad for my daughter.

Wisconsin National Guard is called up to go into Kenosha if necessary.

There have been a couple of minor skirmishes outside the courthouse with one arrest (a white kid).

The Civil Rights leaders are working the other trial, the Aubery case in Georgia. "No Justice, No Peace" they chant.

The timing of the two trials reinforces my idea that the world is ruled by the forces of evil.

This may be new to you, but it's not new. Jury nullification has happened a lot. This is a bad sign and no part of a good thing, but it's not the clap of doom.

No surprise here, given the unfortunate circumstances. A perfect storm of all around aggression culpability. The weapons charge was the only real violation and it was dismissed, but a bad precedent for armed vigilantism, I don't feel safer in public because of it.

In Kyle's case the judge nullified.

So guess now with this verdict handed down.
Standing on the curb armed with a sidearm/AR watching a large group of Trump cultists march by.
Go ahead wave the sidearm at them, then kill a few when they attempt to disarm you.....using the I'm scared....defense.


OBTW,

If you can this may well be a good time to buy stocks in gun related areas. Sales are going to soar.

I see the decision as a circumstances-nuanced one-off, tho many will try to make it something more than that.
It is in no way comparable to the circumstances addressed in the concurrent Georgia trial.

RE: "No Justice, No Peace"

Like Ghandi, MLK knew that peaceful protest, not violence, was the key to winning civil rights.

The Right Wing will be praying for a riot, and they'll stage one if necessary.

Complete with infiltrators setting fires.