Ivermectin for COVID-19: real-time meta analysis of 63 studies
 

Useful and interesting data for the adults here:
Ivermectin for COVID-19: real-time meta analysis of 63 studies
Lots of interesting data at each of the tabs on the site. There is also some high level information like this:
https://c19ivermectin.com/isummary.png

Reduced Risk of Reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 After COVID-19 Vaccination — Kentucky, May–June 2021

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm

The takeaway: Even if you're as incredibly stupid as the Insane Clown, get the fucking vaccination!

Major study of Ivermectin, the anti-vaccine crowd’s latest COVID drug, finds ‘no effect whatsoever’

https://www.latimes.com/business/sto...o-effect-covid

One would need to be as dumb as a stump to self-medicate with an unproven drug. Trumpkins have shown, again and again, just how stupid and gullible they are.

You trust your "authorities" and I'll trust mine. ;)

It worked for my brother. It worked for his friend's husband. And as the links show in my OP, it's working for a lot of people. "You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes."

I've taken the red pill. You are free to choose for yourself.;)

The fact that they didn't die proves nothing about your wonder drug. Your observation has as much validity as saying that the orange juice they had with breakfast cured COVID.

How many studies proving masks and c-19 vaccines are effective and safe are ignored.
Yet this one is to be believed by the same!

Wonder who stands to profit?

Good guess on who loses.

How is it that folks that won't vax because it's "experimental" are ok with taking something with a different purpose "off-label"?

Well, besides being flaming hypocrites, they are just flat out stupid. Case in point: the Insane Clown.

The same anti maskers vaccine people who when my sister was battling cancer. Where desperately seeking whatever wherever a cure. Willing to go to mexico for treatments not allowed in the USA.... :rolleyes:

You are correct, of course. That's why I included the links in the OP that offer empirical evidence.

To use an analogy, the empirical evidence says that Aspirin can cure a headache, and then my brother and his friend, both with headaches, take aspirin and their headache's go away. This sort of discussion used to be so simple. Now the "flat earthers" want to argue that their headaches going away proves nothing.

Meanwhile, I eat well, change the oil regularly in my car, water my plants when we're in a dry spell and drink plenty of water on long distance bike rides. Those things all seem to work for me, though they "prove nothing."

Of course, YMMV. :)

Good question. Do you have any links that show empirical evidence? Do they take into account the negative effects of masks like this one?: https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0422121724.htm

Note: I used that link because it predates the politicization of masks after Rona became a thing in 2020. You know, the days when nobody had a political point to make and science (at least regarding wearing masks) was trustworthy. ;)

Once any part of scientific study becomes politicized, it is important to use extra scrutiny in trusting any source. And the most untrustworthy are "standard news sources". Places like CNN, Fox news, the NYT, NYP, LA Times, WaPo, etc.

As Delta Surges, Covid-19 Breakthrough Cases Remain Uncommon
WSJ analysis finds higher risk of infection from strain, but research shows that vaccines still protect against most serious illness

https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-delt...on-11629199800

Get the damn vaccine, even if you’re as stupid as the Insane Clown.

Waste of typing on your part.
Much like wearing a helmet on a bike.
They either get it or not......:rolleyes:

Facts are always worth repeating, no matter the audience's level of stupidity.

Because it's not experimental. It has known effects. It's like taking aspirin to treat it. Even if it doesn't help, it won't hurt. And I take an aspirin a day for blood pressure, even though that is not its intended use. ;)

This will crack some of you up, and scare others:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CSaR9AYp...rDkxRobWXePOLw

So true. I used to be a member of the Cascade Bycycle Club in Seattle. I got into a pretty heated discussion with the president of the club regarding helmets. He though it should be legally required. I told him that I think it is a smart thing to do, but it should not be the law. But I'm more into personal freedom than he was.

I tried to explain that the same logic used to require helmets could also be used to remove bicycles from public roads. My son was a bike messenger in downtown Seattle. He went to two friends' funerals, both hit by cars. Both wearing helmets.

I still wear a helmet and feel naked without one when riding, but I don't think I have the right to tell others they HAVE TO. And regarding their kids? Not my kids. It's none of my business.

What about the facts in my OP?

Or do you just choose which "facts" to believe? Check out Worldometers. The death rate is so low I don't know why they even call it out relative to all the other death statistics they track. And then there is this from yesterday:
Experts: The COVID Emergency is Over

Lots of text, videos and graphs there.

A snip:
Dr. Scott Gottlieb, the former Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, asserted on Friday that COVID-19 will become an endemic virus in the United States and other Western countries once the recent rise in Delta variant infections calms down. Likewise, two professors—one from Stanford and one from Harvard—have essentially declared the pandemic over, writing that “In [the] USA, COVID mortality is now the lowest since the start of the pandemic in March 2020.”

Fact-checking claim about the use of ivermectin to treat COVID-19

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...tin-treat-cov/

FALSE Only an idiot would self-prescribe this to "treat" COVID. Sadly, Trumpkins are idiots - every last one of them.

Exactly! Didja' notice how the red state Trumplicans started lining up for vaccinations when the bullets (Delta variant) started whizzing overhead? Still others will wait until the person on their left and the person on their right start "taking fire". Still others will bury their heads in the sand while their ass gets shot off.

BREAKING: Texas Gov. Greg Abbott tests positive for COVID-19

https://www.kxan.com/news/texas/texa...-for-covid-19/

...speaking of idiotic Trumpkins... One of the worst of the worst.

The lucky slimeball got vaccinated so he'll probably just have to isolate for the time being.

Hey Mr. Not Insane,

Why would anyone in their right mind (now there is the catch) depend on some arbitrary medication when over 4.7 Billion does of the Covid vaccines have been given worldwide? Isn't that enough of a data base? So why would anyone resort to back alley treatments when one can get an approved vaccine for free in your own neighborhood (for most of us urbanites).

Caution: This is a rhetorical question.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...o8QR_Oss9jthx0

Say now, let's go get us some horse medicine (for the treatment of parasitic worms) instead of a scientifically researched and tested ACTUAL VACCINE that's had billions of doses administered and has proven to do what vaccines do! Oh yeah, said vaccine is available for free.

Sorry, but it has worked for every one of my friends that tried it. I just checked back with my brother last night. It's completely gone. The virus, and symptoms that is. And again, look at the stats at the links in the OP. You are simply trying to ignore empirical evidence. Your link simply tries to destroy a straw man. That is your right, of course.

I agree with that. It's when the scientists disagree on science that has become politicized that it becomes "fun".

Reminds me of the God debate. Some people say he doesn't exist and there is no proof. Meanwhile, my family has two bonafide miraculous healings as well as non-healing miracles and actual spiritual encounters. So believe what you want to believe.

That is actually a good question. If Covid was the plague and killing even ten percent of those exposed, I'd make myself a beta tester of an unproven vaccine. But it's not. Also, this "arbitrary" medication now has empirical evidence to support its use, and has a long history of use for eliminating parasites with no side effects. If the current covid vaccines were held to the same "safety" measures as previous vaccines, they would all be pulled from the market.

FWIW, one of the members of our sunday school class just tested positive for covid. I'll give you all updates on my and my wife's condition. We're not wearing masks, not social distancing, and not vaccinated. And we are not changing our lifestyle at all. Let's see how it goes.

So, is anyone else here in their "right mind", besides me?

At least one individual has been hospitalized in Mississippi after ingesting a drug intended for treating worms in livestock, the Mississippi State Department of Health revealed today. The medicine, ivermectin, is not approved for treating COVID-19.

“There are potential toxicities. So it’s something, you know, as you know, I think some people are trying to use it as a preventative, which I think is really kind of crazy. So please don’t do that,” Mississippi State Health Officer Dr. Thomas Dobbs said during a discussion on Zoom today.

MSDH later confirmed to Mississippi Free Press reporter Nick Judin that the person was hospitalized in the state for ivermectin toxicity...

https://www.mississippifreepress.org...reat-covid-19/

Our Trumpkin neighbor who spent time in the ICU with a COVID infection, finally got the jab, along with his teacher wife (required in CA for public school teachers). So, some Trumpkins are, in fact, willing to learn from their mistakes.

Others, like the idiot OP, are just too stupid.

I think the idiot OP is smart, and actually got the shot a while back. Did I mention I think he lies a lot?

Only a lunatic would cop their off use meds through Tractor Supply Hardware.

Empirical? Did you actually say empirical evidence? For a medication? Are you out of your effing cotton picking mind?

And quit with the lying. I don't care whether you are vaccinated or follow CDC protocols. Regardless of what you may claim, I do find you insane.

Experimenting with Invermectin when highly effective and safe vaccines exist is STUPID!

I now have little sympathy for any who are eligible of being vaccinated and then choose not to be.

Pretty much let them enjoy the hoax virus....:rolleyes:

Remove all of the, yes all government assistance for payments of their treatments too! You know that could be construed as so************************m after all, right?;)

I'm getting so over hearing them whine and moan about how they are suffering under unfair oppression. Our parents, grandparents stepped up when faced with vastly greater issues. They would laugh at those who can't even take a needle or wear a mask......

My sister and brother in law live in Anchorage. They're both extremely conservative born-again Christians; pro heaven and anti everything else including covid vaccines and masks.
As of a week ago my brother in law is on a ventilator; he's 76 and has had heart surgery a few years back, my sister (75) also has covid but is in better shape and convalescing at home with a case of mild pneumonia.

Despite the situation she's in my sister told me she would still refuse a covid vaccine.

I can understand dying for God, country and family but this BS totally cluster fucks me.

Don't forget there were nitwits who actually called the CDC to ask whether injecting bleach was safe...:rolleyes: I say let 'em have all the horse paste they want. Along with hospital style wristbands proudly showing their anti-Covid vaccine status.

Sorry to hear that UncleAng.

The sad fact is that unvaccinated people can get covid more than once.

For people who never learned to rely on their own thinking ability, being true to what 'people like them are supposed to think' is about the most important thing in their lives.