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BlueStreak 08-15-2021 10:50 AM

So...... Where to now?
 
Most of us here are old enough to have watched the shift over the last 55 years or so. You know what shift I'm talking about. All of the bigots you've known, met, have in your family, neighborhood, workplace....that once were Democrats but in time, somewhere along the way became Republicans. Now that the GOP is attracting more Black candidates to run under their banner.......

If this continues, where does a bigot go now? What's a racist, supremacist pig to do if neither of Americas political parties shows him love anymore?

Personally, I don't really care what happens to them. They can all drop dead and burn in hell and that would suit me just fine.

Thoughts anyone?

Oerets 08-15-2021 12:53 PM

Where Trump goes so go the racist bigot.

Right now a pretty safe bet is the GOP will still get their votes.

Rajoo 08-15-2021 02:18 PM

They now have a blueprint, or a road map for the uninitiated, Hungary.

Dondilion 08-15-2021 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 401893)
They now have a blueprint, or a road map for the uninitiated, Hungary.

Hungary? Please expand.

Chicks 08-15-2021 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 401894)
Hungary? Please expand.

Oh please. Your pal Fucker Carlson LOVES the authoritarian regime there.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...n-donald-trump

donquixote99 08-15-2021 02:51 PM

They will forgive Trump a few "house ni**ers." They actually will forgive Trump just about anything. They are happy with him being a con artist, as long as he's their con artist. And if they can see the con, that just makes them smart.

Rajoo 08-15-2021 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 401894)
Hungary? Please expand.


Hungary ordered to play two matches behind closed doors

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The punishment was imposed in response to homophobic and racist behaviour by the country’s supporters at all three of its Euro 2020 group games.

Hungary fans in black shirts marching against players taking the knee and supporters waving homophobic banners in the stands of the Puskas Arena were two unpleasant images that lingered in the early weeks of the tournament.
A spectator sport which the Europeans obsess about is ordered to be played behind closed doors? Of course Faux got into the act as Chicks indicated with F. Carlson's trip highly publicized.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...r-at-euro-2020

Rajoo 08-15-2021 05:30 PM

More on F. Carlson's visit to Hungary:

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Carlson spent the week broadcasting from Hungary, praising the record of authoritarian Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban. “If you care about Western civilization and democracy and families and the ferocious assault on all three of those things by the leaders of our global institutions, you should know what is happening here right now,” said Carlson.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ucker-carlson/

Dondilion 08-15-2021 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 401904)
More on F. Carlson's visit to Hungary:



https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ucker-carlson/

Carlson's visit to Hungary puts a big glare on the major contradictions between himself and Orban.

I notice Orban is on the back pedal with his Chinese University.

What is special about Hungary in the way of blue print?

It is certainly not football, especially in Europe.

Chicks 08-15-2021 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 401905)
Carlson's visit to Hungary puts a big glare on the major contradictions between himself and Orban.

I notice Orban is on the back pedal with his Chinese University.

What is special about Hungary in the way of blue print?

Wow. You really are Eyes Wide Shut when it comes to Fucker. Sad.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...velers/619688/

https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and...s-viktor-orban

Rajoo 08-15-2021 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 401905)
Carlson's visit to Hungary puts a big glare on the major contradictions between himself and Orban.

I notice Orban is on the back pedal with his Chinese University.

What is special about Hungary in the way of blue print?

You can't see the big picture that this all began with Trump praising Orban who is an authoritarian figure like Erdogan? Or you believe Turkey to be a democracy? In fact Trump said "like me" when referring to Orban.

So do you admire Trump?

Dondilion 08-15-2021 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 401906)

You pay too much attention to Carlson.
Carlson's reaction to George Floyd has made him (Carlson) more a niche player.

Dondilion 08-15-2021 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 401907)
You can't see the big picture that this all began with Trump praising Orban who is an authoritarian figure like Erdogan? Or you believe Turkey to be a democracy? In fact Trump said "like me" when referring to Orban.

So do you admire Trump?

wow!
Trump to Orban, Trump to Erdogan, Turkey a democracy? To admiring Trump?

No I do not admire Trump. I believe he is utterly erratic; he should not be anywhere near the nuclear button.

He was smart enough to ride certain key issues which were neglected by the main stream, such as..selling out to China and its devastating effect on blue collar workers, especially whites ones who thought that they were special; chaos at the southern border.

Dondilion 08-15-2021 07:45 PM

The US is set and organized totally different from Hungary and Turkey.
The US has multiple layers of protection.

So often the intricacy of the system tied up Trump.

Chicks 08-15-2021 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 401910)
The US is set and organized totally different from Hungary and Turkey.
The US has multiple layers of protection.

So often the intricacy of the system tied up Trump.

Had Donny been re-elected, he would have made certain that those not “loyal” enough would be replaced. The Repubes, you will remember, did absolutely nothing to stop him, including two impeachments. You are living in a fantasy world.

Orban did exactly what Fucker and other alt-right nut jobs are salivating to do here.

RickeyM 08-16-2021 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 401908)
You pay too much attention to Carlson.
Carlson's reaction to George Floyd has made him (Carlson) more a niche player.

You're damn right we pay attention to Carlson. A whole swath of America pays attention to him and take what he says as gospel. His words have power among them. A niche player? If White supremacists are a niche then I guess so. As long as he's allowed air he needs to be monitored.

Speaking of Fucker Carlson, anybody want to tell me the difference between him and someone standing up in a theater and shouting fire? Fear mongering, race baiting and misinformation are his stock in trade under a banner of free speech. The people who follow him? F*k 'em, let 'em go pound sand. Go get your hate/fear fix somewhere else. Let's not leave out Faux News. Hate, propaganda and misinformation for profit.
Rant over

Rajoo 08-16-2021 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 401910)
The US is set and organized totally different from Hungary and Turkey.
The US has multiple layers of protection.

So often the intricacy of the system tied up Trump.

You are correct, US is different from Hungary and Turkey.
Here Trump has raised over $125M claiming voter fraud of which no proof has been offered nor discovered. Erdogan can simply help himself from their treasury and stay in office indefinitely, which Trump envied. Orban has been evolving from a PM to a dictator since 2010 and remains to be seen if he gets displaced next year but I very much doubt it. This may explain the admiration that the Trumpers have for Orban.

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Still, over the past decade, Orbán has become something of a hero to conservatives throughout Europe, and has piqued the interest of the American right wing as well. Last week, Tucker Carlson visited Hungary and, over dinner, lauded the Prime Minister as someone that the West could learn from. On Sunday, in the Times, the conservative columnist Ross Douthat explained some of Orbán’s appeal. “It’s not just his anti-immigration stance or his moral traditionalism,” Douthat wrote. “It’s that his interventions in Hungarian cultural life, the attacks on liberal academic centers and the spending on conservative ideological projects, are seen as examples of how political power might curb progressivism’s influence.
Sounds like a one party system in the making to me. Hungary is an EU member, so Orban has to play by their rules publicly, but he is a mini Putin in the making.

If the Republicans had not lost control of the House in 2018, wonder where we would be today. Remember the GOP Senate refused to honestly impeach Trump twice, not even for organizing an insurrection.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and...s-viktor-orban

donquixote99 08-16-2021 09:27 AM

With a different Supreme Court we might get misinformation and hate speech nudged out from under the first amendment. With the current set no way.

RickeyM 08-17-2021 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 401919)
With a different Supreme Court we might get misinformation and hate speech nudged out from under the first amendment. With the current set no way.

How about we (Biden) add a couple of justices to help get that done?

donquixote99 08-17-2021 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 401963)
How about we (Biden) add a couple of justices to help get that done?

Sounds like a plan to me, but I doubt that Biden is up for it.

Rajoo 08-17-2021 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 401975)
Sounds like a plan to me, but I doubt that Biden is up for it.

But two Dem Senators are being recalcitrant and being wooed by Mr. Turtle for good measure.


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