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Not Insane 06-04-2021 07:25 AM

The fantasyland of the Democrat party
 
I understand that many here are leftist simply because they are young and the "with age comes wisdom" thing hasn't kicked in yet. That used to be me back in the 70's.

So for those that, like me, are destined to become wiser with age, I offer up something they will actually read.

The fantasyland of the Democrat party

This may not be your time, or your time may never come because, truthfully, "sometimes age comes alone". So you may not even read it. But for the rest of you on the path to wisdom, I hope you enjoy it and learn something from it.

You can lead a horse to water, and all that. I'm still tryin'. ;)

A tiny excerpt:
For the entire duration of the Trump presidency, prominent Democrats such as Hillary Clinton refused to accept the election results of 2016.

As a matter of fact, crooked Hillary still maintains the 2016 election was stolen.

As recently as October of 2020, Hillary said, “You don’t win by 3 million votes and have all this other shenanigans and stuff going on and not come away with an idea like, ‘Whoa, something’s not right here.’ That was a deep sense of unease.”

Clinton’s unsubstantiated claims of a stolen 2016 election haven’t been met with condemnation from the left or the media but only with validation. These claims have been defended by Democrats. After Trump’s election Clinton, the Democrat party, and the media promoted the “Russia collusion” lie — based on the fake Steele dossier that was paid for by the Clinton campaign and the DNC.

Dondilion 06-04-2021 08:42 AM

You are heavily biased: the "fantasy" inhabits both parties.

Not Insane 06-04-2021 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 400680)
You are heavily biased: the "fantasy" inhabits both parties.

I agree with that. In fact, I believe that "fantasy" inhabits all human beings, period. I see it this way: All men lie, but not all are called "liar", and all men break the law in one way or another, but all don't belong in prison.

That's the point here. The article is pointing out massive hypocrisy that seems to, in some minds, continue on unabated. It is important to focus on what really matters and avoid pure partisan issues.

An example - I think we all believe that trump's weakness is his communication style. Frankly, so is AOC's, IMO. However, they are not necessarily elected to "talk". They are elected to be our representatives and take action on our behalf. So, when I look at the "actions" of both, that is where things get interesting. I was a never trumper before he was elected because all I had to go on, from a political position, was his words. He was a chameleon. It's why I said to my wife, when he was elected, the good news is that hillary lost and the bad news is that trump won. But then he started DOING things and I became a HUGE fan.

Meanwhile, I've been strongly against anything AOC has even supported, from a philosophical perspective. It's all I have to go on because she hasn't really done anything.

But I apply the same thing to both of them that I've applied to all politicians since I started voting in 1972: Ignore what they say and watch what they do. That is where the rubber meets the road. That is where they expose their true beliefs and abilities.

But this article is showing the hypocrisy that needs to be considered by the public so they can ignore the irrelevant issues and focus on what actually matters. Cities burning matters. Election integrity matters. Witch hunts should not be rewarded. Trump threatened Hillary with jail, yet when he was elected, nothing happened. It is bad form to try to prosecute the politician you beat - and a lot of democrats tried to point that out. It's too "banana republic". Trump seemed to understand that and dropped it. Perhaps the dems should do the same with Trump and focus on what really matters.

I should mention that I'm no fan of the republicans either. I just consider them definitely the lesser of those two evils. I'm right of the R's, which is why I'm now independent.

Rajoo 06-04-2021 09:21 AM

https://www.mercurynews.com/wp-conte...dAPR.jpg?w=600

Rajoo 06-04-2021 09:23 AM

https://www.mercurynews.com/wp-conte...ct42.jpg?w=600

Rajoo 06-04-2021 09:26 AM

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Not Insane 06-04-2021 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 400684)

That's one of those "preaching to the choir" comics. The type of stuff in that could be said about literally any American politician - and pretty much anyone else on the planet.

And history proves that even if none of that can be applied to you, your enemies will still hang you on a cross.

Leftist demand perfection in their leaders. It's why Robespierre met the fate he did. Conservatives understand that we are ALL flawed men.

I may have already used this analogy:

There are two mechanics in your town. One is an upstanding citizen but an incompetent mechanic. The other is a drunken womanizer but an amazing mechanic. Which one are you going to ask to fix your car?



i.e. people complain about Trump in irrelevancies and ignore the good he is actually doing within the scope of his job description - or they are on the opposite political pole (e.g. sochalistb*/fascist/communist/woke) and HATE what he is doing. And that is the crowd that comic speaks to.

*I had to spell sochialistb wrong so it didn't get "edited" by the site. I don't really understand why they do that

bobabode 06-04-2021 11:19 AM

Spammers trying to sell erectile dysfunction pills, i.e. C-i-a-l-i-s were a plague back in the early days of this forum. Hence the word 'so************************t' is automatically stricken out.

Not Insane 06-04-2021 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 400686)
Spammers trying to sell erectile dysfunction pills, i.e. C-i-a-l-i-s were a plague back in the early days of this forum. Hence the word 'so************************t' is automatically stricken out.

Was that part of what had to be fixed to allow some of us with gmail to be able to become members here?

bobabode 06-04-2021 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 400680)
You are heavily biased: the "fantasy" inhabits both parties.

Indeed, Fox News, Tucker and Libertarian thinktank sources will do that to you.

I'd submit that the left is by far less living in fantasyland. Many years ago during St. Ronnie's reign I subscribed to the OC Register and the LA Times. The editorial slant of the Register bled all over into their regular reportage. It wasn't by any small amount. The LA Times kept their editorial slant on the editorial page.

bobabode 06-04-2021 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Insane (Post 400687)
Was that part of what had to be fixed to allow some of us with gmail to be able to become members here?

I have no idea. That's above my paygrade.

bobabode 06-04-2021 11:50 AM

ps N-I, when you call my Democratic Party the democrat party? It's a tell and a quite obvious insult. So, if you start from a blatant point of disrespect? You aren't worth the time or the keystrokes to engage with.

You get what you give kid.

Rajoo 06-04-2021 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 400690)
ps N-I, when you call my Democratic Party the democrat party? It's a tell and a quite obvious insult. So, if you start from a blatant point of disrespect? You aren't worth the time or the keystrokes to engage with.

You get what you give kid.

Thanks Bob and note only Repugnants use that pejorative term.

Chicks 06-04-2021 07:18 PM

‘They’re Giving Them Away’: Trump Condo Prices Crash to 10-Year Lows
‘IT’S EMBARRASSING’

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-...o-10-year-lows

Quote:

The Trump brand has become so toxic, prices for apartments in buildings bearing the former president’s name have fallen to their lowest levels in more than a decade, according to an Associated Press review of more than 4,000 transactions. “I have never seen buildings plummet so dramatically,” Ondel Hylton, an executive with CityRealty, a brokerage tracking sales in eight Trump buildings in Manhattan, told the wire service. “It seems like this is a bottom.” The drops are deeper than those seen in many similar buildings, meaning bargains of up to $1 million off previous asking prices. “I’d be happy if his name was taken off,” Trump Palace resident Gary Gabriel told the AP. “It’s embarrassing.”
ROFL. How embarrassing to be a Trumpkin idiot like the ignorant OP. :D

Chicks 06-04-2021 07:19 PM

Manhattan DA brought Trump Organization controller to testify before special grand jury: Sources

https://abcnews.go.com/US/manhattan-...ry?id=78088595

The idiot Trumpkin fantasy world is coming apart at the seams! :D

Chicks 06-04-2021 08:26 PM

An accused Capitol rioter said police were ‘protecting pedophiles’—he pled no contest to raping a 14-year-old

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/capit...tatutory-rape/

Exactly the sort of person the Insane Clown is.

bobabode 06-04-2021 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 400716)
An accused Capitol rioter said police were ‘protecting pedophiles’—he pled no contest to raping a 14-year-old

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/capit...tatutory-rape/

Exactly the sort of person the Insane Clown is.

Now, now. N-I ain't the sharpest tool we've seen round here but there's no evidence he's some kind of pedo like T'Rump.

BlueStreak 06-05-2021 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Insane (Post 400676)
I understand that many here are leftist simply because they are young and the "with age comes wisdom" thing hasn't kicked in yet. That used to be me back in the 70's.

So for those that, like me, are destined to become wiser with age, I offer up something they will actually read.

The fantasyland of the Democrat party

This may not be your time, or your time may never come because, truthfully, "sometimes age comes alone". So you may not even read it. But for the rest of you on the path to wisdom, I hope you enjoy it and learn something from it.

You can lead a horse to water, and all that. I'm still tryin'. ;)

A tiny excerpt:
For the entire duration of the Trump presidency, prominent Democrats such as Hillary Clinton refused to accept the election results of 2016.

As a matter of fact, crooked Hillary still maintains the 2016 election was stolen.

As recently as October of 2020, Hillary said, “You don’t win by 3 million votes and have all this other shenanigans and stuff going on and not come away with an idea like, ‘Whoa, something’s not right here.’ That was a deep sense of unease.”

Clinton’s unsubstantiated claims of a stolen 2016 election haven’t been met with condemnation from the left or the media but only with validation. These claims have been defended by Democrats. After Trump’s election Clinton, the Democrat party, and the media promoted the “Russia collusion” lie — based on the fake Steele dossier that was paid for by the Clinton campaign and the DNC.

Todays Republicans have NO room to lecture anyone about living in a fantasyland. So, do yourself a favor and just STFU about that.

RickeyM 06-05-2021 06:55 AM

Quote:

A tiny excerpt:
For the entire duration of the Trump presidency, prominent Democrats such as Hillary Clinton refused to accept the election results of 2016.

As a matter of fact, crooked Hillary still maintains the 2016 election was stolen.
Must be a different Hillary Clinton from the called El Lardo on election night and conceded the election. The election BTW that was proven to be tainted by Russian interference.

Quote:

Today's GQP* has NO room to lecture anyone about living in a fantasyland. So, do yourself a favor and just STFU about that.
*edit

The Mike Lindell/Qanon/tRump fantasyland wet dream that El Lardo will be reinstated this coming August?

Oerets 06-05-2021 07:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 400720)
Todays Republicans have NO room to lecture anyone about living in a fantasyland. So, do yourself a favor and just STFU about that.



Speaking of the Republican Cult members......

bobabode 06-05-2021 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 400721)
Must be a different Hillary Clinton from the called El Lardo on election night and conceded the election. The election BTW that was proven to be tainted by Russian interference.


*edit

The Mike Lindell/Qanon/tRump fantasyland wet dream that El Lardo will be reinstated this coming August?

That's the former SoS and Senator that I remember. Even though she gave him a solid drubbing in the popular vote, he won the Electoral College. Weirdly, that's how we elect presidents.

Claiming that she is doing what the King of Mar a Lardo is up to is simpleminded projection denying objective reality. It's bat shyte crazy.

RickeyM 06-05-2021 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 400727)
Claiming that she is doing what the King of Mar a Lardo is up to is simple minded projection denying objective reality. It's bat shyte crazy.


You said it, not me. LOL

Rajoo 06-05-2021 06:55 PM

I am waiting for the apocalypse, the day this August when #45 gets reinstated as potus.

gdwrench 06-09-2021 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Insane (Post 400681)
I agree with that. In fact, I believe that "fantasy" inhabits all human beings, period. I see it this way: All men lie, but not all are called "liar", and all men break the law in one way or another, but all don't belong in prison.

That's the point here. The article is pointing out massive hypocrisy that seems to, in some minds, continue on unabated. It is important to focus on what really matters and avoid pure partisan issues.

An example - I think we all believe that trump's weakness is his communication style. Frankly, so is AOC's, IMO. However, they are not necessarily elected to "talk". They are elected to be our representatives and take action on our behalf. So, when I look at the "actions" of both, that is where things get interesting. I was a never trumper before he was elected because all I had to go on, from a political position, was his words. He was a chameleon. It's why I said to my wife, when he was elected, the good news is that hillary lost and the bad news is that trump won. But then he started DOING things and I became a HUGE fan.

Meanwhile, I've been strongly against anything AOC has even supported, from a philosophical perspective. It's all I have to go on because she hasn't really done anything.

But I apply the same thing to both of them that I've applied to all politicians since I started voting in 1972: Ignore what they say and watch what they do. That is where the rubber meets the road. That is where they expose their true beliefs and abilities.

But this article is showing the hypocrisy that needs to be considered by the public so they can ignore the irrelevant issues and focus on what actually matters. Cities burning matters. Election integrity matters. Witch hunts should not be rewarded. Trump threatened Hillary with jail, yet when he was elected, nothing happened. It is bad form to try to prosecute the politician you beat - and a lot of democrats tried to point that out. It's too "banana republic". Trump seemed to understand that and dropped it. Perhaps the dems should do the same with Trump and focus on what really matters.

I should mention that I'm no fan of the republicans either. I just consider them definitely the lesser of those two evils. I'm right of the R's, which is why I'm now independent.

Here's your boy...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqOBEkI_INw

And this is the Rep party...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVDJqipoohc

RickeyM 06-09-2021 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by gdwrench (Post 400824)

This...

https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Mis.../M/DP2ew-M.jpg

Not Insane 06-11-2021 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 400830)

He is a man for his time.

Like Patton and Churchill.

But I don't know where you get the racist part from.

bobabode 06-11-2021 11:23 AM

That's a real thigh slapper, NI. Thanks for the chuckle. You really should seek professional help.

Chicks 06-11-2021 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 400842)
That's a real thigh slapper, NI. Thanks for the chuckle. You really should seek professional help.

The Insane Clown is one sick MF, isn't he? Piece of crap, just like his "hero", Donny. :(

BlueStreak 06-12-2021 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Insane (Post 400839)
He is a man for his time.

Like Patton and Churchill.

But I don't know where you get the racist part from.

Patton and Churchill? You equate Donnie Bonespurs the Deferment King with those two? The person who told his stooges "...go to the Capital, I'll be right there with you!" then ran and hid as they ransacked Congress and beat up cops?

You are the perfect testament to the amazing effectiveness of right wing propaganda. Damn, those guys are good at what they do.................

Rajoo 06-13-2021 05:40 AM

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/w...esize=1024,683

The Man of his Time, aka The Fake Winston Churchill scored an XX for his time in the office.


https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2...s-image_00-01/

Ike Bana 06-13-2021 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Insane (Post 400685)

There are two mechanics in your town. One is an upstanding citizen but an incompetent mechanic. The other is a drunken womanizer but an amazing mechanic. Which one are you going to ask to fix your car?

Go to the competent, sober mechanic of good character one town over.

Trump is a sociopathic grifter and pedophile.

Ike Bana 06-13-2021 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 400842)
That's a real thigh slapper, NI. Thanks for the chuckle. You really should seek professional help.

And here I am...

RickeyM 06-13-2021 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 400842)
That's a real thigh slapper, NI. Thanks for the chuckle. You really should seek professional help.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 400878)
And here I am...

Well, you can lead a horse to water...

Rajoo 06-13-2021 10:54 AM

You really want to trust a mech who can't even fix his own hair? :D

https://i.insider.com/5e4474fa4b661b...00&format=jpeg

RickeyM 06-14-2021 06:18 AM

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A mechanic that needs a two hands to sip water :confused:

https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Mis...52.20-AM-M.jpg

Not Insane 06-14-2021 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 400877)
Go to the competent, sober mechanic of good character one town over.

Trump is a sociopathic grifter and pedophile.

If you don't want to address the point of the analogy, fine. ;)

Not Insane 06-14-2021 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 400893)
A mechanic that needs a two hands to sip water :confused:

https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Mis...52.20-AM-M.jpg

It's comical that you would try to ding Trump on that particular "weakness" while we suffer the current Depends customer in the oval office. :D

RickeyM 06-14-2021 09:51 AM

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This message is hidden because Not Insane is on your ignore list.
He's so cute when he tries.

Ike Bana 06-14-2021 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Insane (Post 400897)
If you don't want to address the point of the analogy, fine. ;)

There are two points to consider in the link from the OP.

1. The American Thinker blog is an alt-right rag.
2. Drew Allen is a con-job tripe spewing seditionist who wipes his ass with The American Thinker.

Fine, indeed.

Rajoo 06-14-2021 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Insane (Post 400897)
If you don't want to address the point of the analogy, fine. ;)

I don't get your analogy at all. Who in their right minds wants a drunken mechanic who behaves like a raving lunatic? Buy prepaid dealer maintenance with extended warranty and when it expires, buy a new car.


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