Beginning of the GQP implosion?
 

Well folks, the blood fight has formally begun. The GQP is pitting Rep. Elise Stefanik against Rep. Liz Cheney for leadership (aka kicking Liz out) and Rep. Scalise has formally thrown his support behind Stefanik. I predict this is not going to end well for Liz Cheney, but what she does later may not be very good for the GQP either. Either way, fun for all.

"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"

And for good clean fun, Nancy Pelosi is trolling the Republican House members. :D

'tis nothing but a minor dust-up
 

This has been building since the tRump takeover of the party. There was bound to be at least one person to protest and with the party running scared of the voters they've set on fire that person was bound to go down in flames. The party itself will continue on it's path until or unless they go down in flames in the midterm elections.

Wishful thinking.

Thinking the cult will go down peacefully without a fight to the bitter end, is a fools errand.

The need to take the kid gloves off and quit playing nice with them has come. They think we are weak by allowing them to go on and on with the lies and obstruction. The time is running out for the justice department to act. By the fall the next election will be in full swing. Will be hard to once the mid terms campaigning is going strong. Or their master has his FB platform back!

I'm not quite sure what the Dems should do. Forget the cult, its the mid terms that is important and where is the message?

Use the Dem monopoly in government and go after the GQP and call their bluff, they will make life very very difficult for Biden to govern and then use this to bash him and the party ("Do nothing" anyone?) before the mid terms. This will then energize the Republicans voters and they will turn up in droves and elect Republicans to the House.

Play nice and the progressives will see the traditional Democrats kowtowing to the Republicans as in "business as usual", will not trust them anymore and will either stay home during elections or nominate extreme candidates in the primaries.

Again, what is really lacking is the messaging from the Democrats. We need a few representatives from safe seats (preferably women) telling the suburban women voters, "GOP is the new GQP and they are evil".

Liz Cheney: The GOP is at a turning point. History is watching us.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...turning-point/

A sad state of affairs when a Cheney is one of the only remaining Repubes with any sense whatsoever...

As much as I like Biden as president he comes off as too much of a nice guy. We need someone working with him who can do pissed-off well. An attack dog if you will. Starting with the Big Lie and the attempted insurrection to Repub hypocrisy to Repub obstructionism down to the entire party trying to thwart the will of the American people the majority of whom elected Joe Biden president. Lay it all out there for all to see. The best defense is a good offense. Without a good defense we will see tRump in the WH again and the GQP marching the nation into authoritarianism.

Right on!

The Dems need to become just what they are being accused of now.

Might as well, trying to work with the GQP is a losing proposition.


First place they need to be going full tilt so************************t would be in WV. Offer up fed $$$ for solar power/energy factories of good paying jobs instead of coal mines and Ngas ones. Give Sen Machin something to think about.

How on Earth can you cooperate with a faction that backed a mob out to kill your members?

From the other side, after conning your voters for over years, how do you tell the truth now and continue to get elected? Lies will prevail over truth till until the 2022 mid terms and McConnell will do what he does best, say no and block every bill unless its tax cuts.

Refuses reality, rather relishing rebellion reverie.:eek:

That niceness is what will win over swing voters in 2022.

The Dems aren't going to change the minds of the MAGA masses. A pissed off Democrat message will lose support of suburban voters that lean Republican.

Yes, that is how I see it. This country elected Biden, not the Young Turks.

You misunderstand. Not a pissed off Democrat message but a spokesperson who can show proper indignation in exposing the GQP lies and expose their attempts to destroy our democratic republic. Give those swing voters and moderates very good reason to choose the Democrats over the Party Of Trump. Lay bare exactly what the Republican party has become and why at this time they are a danger.

There are renegade Conservatives with more cred doing exactly that, and the Magamorons aren't listening to them.

The Magamorons aren't the group that matters. They are lost, pretty much. What's in play, as Ricky said, are swing voters and moderates.

Magamorons who are part of the GQP wing of the GOP are indeed the cult and its too late. I do not think that their thinking can be realigned or their priorities realigned.

I spoke to one of our employees who refuses to get vaccinated since it is a matter of freedom to him and he claims that the 'government' has no right to mandate wearing of masks. When I pointed to him that everywhere we go these days, masks are mandatory, I got a blank stare. He has been with us for well over ten years and now his days are marked since he would rather leave than get vaccinated.

Just last week two different businesses I frequent when there. Asked if they were making employees get vaccinated? Both said no, they were not. But if the employee does not, then gets sick with C-19, any time off would need to be covered with their own sick days and vacation time. No more of the supplied two week C-19 days for those who do not get the shot!
If no days in the bank, could very well get fired!

I watched some of those interviews on tv with Trump supporters and they truly believe that the election was stolen. They won't listen to the facts and they can offer no evidence to support their belief. It is just mind boggling. I don't see how they can toss aside their critical thinking abilities and blindly follow a con man.

Most people have very very little critical thinking ability, except where they have been trained to apply it in a job function.

Sad but true. He refused to acknowledge the potential liability for exposing our employees and even more so to their children who cannot be vaccinated yet. His attitude was if everyone is vaccinated (which we are), why worry about him since "you are all protected". Wish I could have flipped a few fingers. :mad:

Everyone forgets, for one thing, the 95% is not 100%. If vaccinated you probably won't get super sick if you do get infected, but you could pass it on.

The GOP psyops program has been very, very effective. "Believe not what you see or hear unless it comes from us, your friends.".

Speaking of critical thinking...
.. there it goes!

https://media2.giphy.com/media/l3V0s...uZ3O/giphy.gif

Its certain now that Liz Cheney will be kicked out of her #3 leadership position in the GOP/GQP. Here is Gov. Hogan's comment today:

Wish more people get bothered since I am all for infighting in the GOP. Wonder what will happen to Hogan now though governors are mostly immune from national party politics.

https://www.businessinsider.com/hoga...g-squad-2021-5

Gov. Hogan has no chance in national Repub politics because he's not about party before country. Or in his case party before state. Now if the current GQP does a crash-and-burn and they need members to rebuild that could change.

Now here is some good news.

House GOP campaign officials withheld poor Trump poll numbers from lawmakers at recent Florida retreat: report

Keep lying folks and also try the Muhammad Ali line (amended), "You are the Greatest'.

This will get worse once Liz Cheney gets booted out and I would imagine not very many women will take it well along with mainstream Republicans.

https://www.businessinsider.com/chen...t-polls-2021-5

Let them continue their bizarre hero worship for the babbling idiot.

"They paused the Johnson & Johnson, they paused it.....because five people out of seven million......very bad, very bad......had an unfortunate result.....very bad......but only five and they paused it which might have had a slight effect on the others, I dunno. But I find it disturbing and suspicious that they paused it and not Phiza or Moderna....... Why? Only the Johnson but not Phiza or Moderna. Not the other two. Why would they pause one but not the others.......very disturbing and suspicious."

To nearly half this country, illogical word soup like this somehow makes sense.....

Just think about that for a minute.

Brainwashed by bullshit.

The conservatives in my circles have wanted Liz out for a very long time. She's in the "elite" group of Rinos that are so far left we just see them as "not so covert" democrats. You know, folks like the last two R presidential candidates before Trump - which made those two election cycles uber-stupid.

This isn't a party schism. It's a party purification.

I give you...

This is party schism and its just starting.
Please be informed before you regurgitate your spewing points, since most of us here are well informed and we share links. Please read this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...t-loyalty-him/

This bit of an opinion piece is quite revealing.

The MAGAmorons may soon morph into MAGArats, the ship is beginning to list.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...other-problem/

Roger Stone Wants Americans to Punch 'Fat' Steve Bannon for Claiming Trump Has Alzheimer's

https://www.newsweek.com/roger-stone...eimers-1589910

More purification. ;)

Here comes the food fight.

A conservative Republican accuses House leaders of ‘rushing to coronate’ Stefanik, calling her insufficiently conservative.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/05...y-conservative

If "not conservative enough" is a thing why are they supporting tRump?
On today's happening, I'm getting tired of the media's minute-by-minute blow-by-blow Party of tRump's knifing of Liz Cheney. Because she won't back the big lie it's a done deal. What I'll be watching for is what comes next.

With that crowd, 'conservative' does not mean what it used to. Now it means 'loyal repeater of lies, butcher of principles and enemy of any part of the nation not subservient to Trump.'

Will she go on Fox? Does Faux want her on Fox?
Rest of the media circuit will just have an echo chamber effect.

Some less than maniacal Repubs want to split from the party. Could this result killing off the party? I saw a Sci-fi flick once where aliens would took over a body. The only cure was to kill the host so the alien would leave it then the person would be revived. Think that would save the Repub party?

Rickey, after watching the hearing yesterday on tv where a republican stated there was no insurrection, it was just tourists visiting the capitol, I wonder if republican politicians have been taken over by aliens.