The term "People of Color" is racist and dishonest
 

People of color? Seriously?

Black people wish to be called black. That's what they call themselves. Calling them "colored people" is an insult. So how do you reverse that phrase, add a preposition and somehow it is no longer an insult?

Besides, if black people are people of color, what are caucasian people? No color? White people have all kinds of shade from pink to light orange and some olive skin tones.

People born in India have very dark skin. But they are considered ASIAN. People born in Russia appear white, but they are ASIAN as well.

And what about this idiotic "African American" crap? Egypt is in Africa. But they aren't part of the negro race. They have olive skin, similar to those from India, but they aren't African American.

What about white racists from South Africa? Are they African American as well?

If you want to advance humanity, you might try getting rid of the racism and just refer to every human on the planet as PEOPLE OF COLOR. We are ALL a "color."

Don't judge us by skin color. Judge us by our choices and our actions.

OK, a person is 'mixed race.' Do you, as a non-racist of course, want to insist they go in the black box, or the white box?

And again, not your call to make, OP.

What do you mean "us?" :rolleyes:

Getting rid of the racism is going to involve more than referring to all of us as people of color or referring to them by their country of origin.

[QUOTE=Reason10;397969]People of color? Seriously?

You're making an intellectual argument that can only be reasoned by someone who is lily white. Here's how it really works: You see someone and you immediately racially profile them... to the best of your ability. They speak and you instantly make another assessment, immigrant?, Texan? or rural Floridian.
Without prejudice, of course.

People of color? Seriously?

That's the politically correct snowflake term we're forced to live with. And it is dishonest. There is no such thing as a person who has NO color at all. White is a color. But there are no actual WHITE people. Skin tones move from beige, light orange, to more olive tones.

You're making an intellectual argument that can only be reasoned by someone who is lily white.

That is unbelievably racist and dishonest. There are NO human beings on the plant Earth who are the exact color of a lily. Just call me a Honky and let it go at that.


Here's how it really works: You see someone and you immediately racially profile them... to the best of your ability.

Actually, everybody does that. And I mean EVERYBODY. The one thing that ALL races have in common is their innate distrust and curiosity of those who are different. It's not limited to the Caucasian race. Basically, not all humans are the same. We do not have all the same coloring. We don't all speak the same language. We don't all have the same level of education. We don't all have the same political views.




They speak and you instantly make another assessment, immigrant?, Texan? or rural Floridian.
Without prejudice, of course.


So far you liberals have been doing precisely that with me. You don't know my race, religion, etc. But you have already racially profiled me.

The fact that you profile Florida, the most intelligent state in the union in a negative fashion means you don't know what you're talking about.

Think of this as a new class you have to take. You're going to hear some views and opinions that are different from what you grew up with. If you wish to profile me like the other Wokies here, you're only engaging in the behavior you accuse me of.

Interestingly enough, it was historical novelist Frank Yerby who authored all those novels about the 19th Century South (Fairoaks, Jarrett's Jade, The Foxes of Harrow, Benton's Row, etc) who referred to such mixed races as quadroons, octaroons, etc in an effort to define mixed races. His books dealt with slavery from many angles.

(Oh, and Yerby was a Democrat, Rush Limbaugh hating liberal right up to his death.)

In college Sociology class, the instructor began the course with that one drop of race blood definer. She then moved to other racist concepts as white flight. I was confused. She sounded like Guy Falks, from a Yerby novel, a slave owner. Then I saw a copy of the Utne Reader and it became all too clear.

Conservatives generally are uncomfortable with the color judging thing. We prefer to judge a person based on that person's views, actions and decisions. I mentioned that the phrase "people of color" is not only racist, it is dishonest. All people are people of color. In the Sixties, nobody had a problem with calling a black person a "colored person." Today blacks believe 'colored people" is an insult. George Carlin points out that "people of color" is just another way of saying "Colored people." He also points out that blacks prefer to be called black, (even though a lot of them come in lighter shades of black, some even in more Caucasian looking features.)


Liberals seem to want to use concepts of color to divide people. I find that distasteful as well as dishonest. Nothing good comes from dividing people. In the marketplace of ideas, it is the idea that should prevail, not the skin color of the person making the idea.

Republicans seem to have evolved from that mentality, but sadly no one else has.
As I intended to point out, there are people from India who have darker skin tones than blacks, but those from India are Asians.

I have some really bad news for you. As long as there are liberal Democrats, there will be racism. And I'll even expand it further. There are certain Asian types who are racist beyond anything you can imagine. (In the mid-80s I was selling land to buyers who flew in from Europe. I remember both the Vietnamese and Filipino were extremely disgusted by the sight of other reps touring Jamaican customers. And they almost pushed me to the point where my real estate license would force me to stop doing business with them. In Florida law, it's called steering. Someone even mentions wanting a neighborhood based on race, you're supposed to just END the business relationship right there.)

Racism is only a part of the ignorance of prejudice that exists in the world. In folks with poor education (and so far, I'm noticing most of them are liberal Democrat) there is a fear and loathing of those who are different. Race is just part of the lexicon of items some low information folks use to profile anyone who is different. Without anybody even bothering to get to know me, the initial responses to my views have been the label of "troll." I haven't seen this level of ignorance since the days of Democrat George Wallace's supporters.

This might blow your mind. While in Orlando, I got to meet some Nigerian nationals. (I had a lawyer friend who handled their immigration.) This guy actually told me that American blacks were the inferior ones, the ones who allowed themselves to be sold into slavery. He claimed Africans used slavery (yes, Virginia, Americans didn't travel to Africa and just pluck slaves from the jungle) as a means of removing the trash from African societies. HIS WORDS, NOT MINE. And this guy was a black as the tires on your car.

I don't know why so many liberals want to take a dump on the uniquely AMERICAN practice of tearing down the racial barriers and actually criminalizing institutional prejudice. And of course, ALL those major legislative acts were done by conservative Republicans.

Prepare yourself for a shock in logic.

US MEANS EVERYBODY. We are ALL a group of US. We ALL have a skin color. We ALL have unique abilities, cultures, capabilities. We are ALL HUMAN BEINGS.

It's only the liberal Democrats who look to divide us on the basis of appearance.

Some troll here referred to me as lily white. Have you people ever SEEN a lily? There is NO human being on the planet the color of a pure white lily. That's just a racist insult on the level that even transcends the N word.

Good grief.... a thread started to provoke an unbalanced discussion of skin color with the intention of bashing liberals.

Yes. It's what trolls do. It is how they get their jollies. Sick bastards. :mad:

Concepts of color to divide people?

How about "Meet Willie Horton?"
How about Reagan's "Welfare queen?"
How about endless examples from Trump rhetoric, from "Mexico sending rapists" to "Shithole countries?"
If you're in a reading mood, you might pursue this, which traces the racist intent behind 'law and order' rhetoric from Nixon to Trump: https://tropicsofmeta.com/2020/06/23...original-klan/

Your partisan mudslinging on this issue cannot be regard as serious or honest argument.

You are not even trying to argue honestly. Game over.

Try actually reading it, instead of letting your prejudices take over.

In other words, anyone who disagrees with you and forces you to actually THINK is a troll.

Sick bastards, just for having a different opinion?

Concepts of color to divide people?

How about "Meet Willie Horton?"

Do you even know what Willie Horton incident was about? I'm pretty sure you don't because you would have known that it was first revealed by AL GORE.


How about Reagan's "Welfare queen?"

To bring everyone else up to speed on that idiotic argument, I take you back to a 1976 Reagan speech, with the exact wording of Welfare Queen.

https://www.newamerica.org/weekly/ri...welfare-queen/

“She used 80 names, 30 addresses, 15 telephone numbers to collect food stamps, Social Security, veterans’ benefits for four nonexistent deceased veteran husbands, as well as welfare. Her tax-free cash income alone has been running $150,000 a year.”


You probably didn't know that's what he actually said when he used the term Welfare Queen. So first question, WHAT RACE was he referring to? He didn't mention a race. Or maybe I should ask, what race in YOUR MIND is so inferior, devious and cunning would be the ONLY race who would commit the kind of fraud that Reagan was referring to. And if you say black, you probably didn't know that there was a HUGE number of poor white trash women who download illegitimate babies and lose the father for profit. Unlike you, I don't see a race in this. I see a society cancer that was created by government.


By the way, the article was REALLY partisan and ignorant. And apparently it conveniently left out the fact that Wallace was a DEMOCRAT, like other segregationists Democrats of the day. (Fulbright, Gore, Byrd, Hollings, Maddox, Clinton.)


How about endless examples from Trump rhetoric, from "Mexico sending rapists" to "Shithole countries?"

The exact quote of Trump: MS13.

https://www.ranker.com/list/mara-sal.../katia-kleyman

Trump was right. Mexico is not sending its best to America. There's nothing to dispute about that.

As far as shithole countries, what do you think Hondurans and El Salvadorians running away from? Why would they cross a thousand miles of Central American jungles, put their children at risk of disease, rape and being sold into American prostitution rings? Are they leaving total paradises, where everyone has two cars in a driveway and makes six figures a year?

Tell me what is racist about calling such a place a shithole. What race are we talking about. Negroid, Mongolian? Caucasian?


If you're in a reading mood, you might persue this, which traces the racist intent behing 'law and order' rhetoric from Nixon to Trump: https://tropicsofmeta.com/2020/06/23...original-klan/

If you somehow think there is ANYTHING that Nixon (the most LIBERAL Republican president in history) has in common with Trump, you are reading stuff written by idiots. Simple as that. We are talking about situations NOT EVEN IN THE SAME CENTURY. Also, if you have a problem with Nixon's law and order concepts, I guess you didn't vote for Biden, the man who helped draft the law in Congress that wound up locking up blacks all across the country. Last time I checked with Trump, he had signed a criminal law reform bill that emptied a LOT of prisons, a goodly portion of those released being black.

By the way, your article was uninformed and stupid and incorrect. George Wallace ran as a DEMOCRAT. He was a racist and segregationist, same as other Democrats: Albert Gore Sr, William Fulbright, Lester Maddox, Ernest Hollings Jr, Bill Clinton.


Your partisan mudslinging on this issue cannot be regard as serious or honest arguement.

Intelligent people take it seriously all the time.

And again, look at who is doing all the namecalling. You've called me a racist and a troll and for no good reason.

Right now, I'm the only one actually DISCUSSING stuff. You have yet to offer ANY argument whatsoever, except for TROLL and RACIST.


Read more, post less.

Actually, I got this concept from a George Carlin speech at the National Press Club. Some of the things he brought up, (about Indians) I honestly didn't know about. I looked them up and found he was right. Also, when he mentioned "person of color" being dishonest and racist, he was right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc0ZHsoHAlE

Black people do not like being called colored people. The phrase "People of color" is pretty much the same thing with just a preposition added. Weren't you even paying attention?


By the way, if you are about to bash George Carlin, saying a comedian isn't qualified to give opinions on race, politics or anything else, I hope you be at least be as critical of failed comedians like Jim Carrey, Colbert, Letterman, and other left wing bigots on TV.

Yes. No more troll food will be provided by me!

You're the only troll here. It doesn't matter how long you've been here. You just insult people who disagree with you.

If it helps, my views regarding you have nothing to do with appearance. :D

You're the one bringing up race.

I was referring to terminology. I maintain that the racist "People of color" thing is as much an insult as "colored people."


Maybe it's because you liberals are so young and just don't know anything. I'll be surprised if ANY of you weren't born in this century.

I on the other hand grew up in the South in the Sixties. I saw the REAL racism up close and personal. I'm the one who lost white friends because I developed friendships with blacks. I saw the WHITE ONLY signs, everywhere from North Carolina to Louisiana. I had to endure the George Wallace types, the segregationists, the bigots.

What we have today is a cartoon compared to back then. And the Sixties was kind of a cartoon compared to post Civil War reconstruction, when the Democrat KKK taught the country the true meaning of domestic terrorism.


Maybe it's because I have an education on the matter. Maybe I'm just a bit too hypersensitive to people who are allergic to facts, probably because I lived those facts.

So far you liberals have been doing precisely that with me.

Just so that you know.... I'm a conservative

Please expand, Unc. I'm lost here.

Doing precisely what? I also don't follow you.

There are reasonable conservatives of course, and you've shown no sign of being unreasonable or anything, quite the contrary. I feel conservatives have their priorities a bit wrong, but that need not stop them from being honest, decent people. The big problem these days is the radicalizing influence of the right wing propaganda, which is not actually conservative in content at all, they just exploit some conservatives tendencies to get started.

Trying to redefine conservatism? Think there is something wrong with the rule of law, free market capitalism, individual liberty? Is that what you disagree with? You'd prefer the government run our lives from womb to the tomb?

Tell us WHAT right wing propaganda you're referring to, that somehow differs from the Conservatism of William F. Buckley, Ronald Reagan, Rush Limbaugh or Donald Trump.

I recognize a kook factor in pretty much anything. But you WOKE types ARE the kook factor, period. There is nothing more fascist and Un-American than Cancel Culture. And that's your side of the aisle.

And there is no compromising with that.

I didn't profile Florida, I profiled YOU. Are you a lily white rural Floridian?

Buckley and Reagan had a governing philosophy. Limbaugh and Trump didn't. They're entertainers for those like you who confuse "owning the libs" with governance.

They are opportunistic demagogues outside of conservatism, cashing in as media clowns with no regard for the welfare or future of the Republic.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demagogue

If you somehow imagine that you will get some moral authority with racist statements, you're sadly mistaken.

This only shows that you have absolutely NO idea what you are talking about.

Let's see. Reagan was a screen actor. Trump was a businessman. Entertainers?

And they were the two best presidents in the history of America.

I can see why you have a problem with The DOCTOR OF DEMOCRACY, since he almost single handedly ENDED the left wing monopoly on public opinion in the media. He also single handedly opened up an amazing world of talk radio where other very intelligent and talented minds could spread the word of market conservatism, the very concepts that make America work.


Right now, you sound like a KKK hack, filled with sheer hatred of what your small mind fails to understand.

They are opportunistic demagogues outside of conservatism, cashing in as media clowns with no regard for the welfare or future of the Republic.


Actually, that kinda describes the envious Never Trumper conservatives, those jealous souls who watched Trump advance conservatism in three years what those hacks had promised for the past THIRTY.

Trump was the greatest thing in the world for the American republic. And Jim Crow Joe has deliberately tanked this country's economy and put THOUSANDS out of work.

If you are okay with that, you truly hate this country.

You just used a racist statement. You do not qualify as a conservative. That's reserved for the Woke left. They invented racial bigotry and they haven't changed for the past 200 years.

You are about as conservative as Mitt Romney or John McCain. Another way of saying RINO.


Don't make me laugh.