January 6, 2021 Storming of the US Capitol
 

Starting this thread as a single point of reference to this seditious act.

It appears certain based on the lack of preparedness and timely response to this seditious attack on the seat of government of the United States that the leadership of Federal law enforcement agencies purposely did not respond in a timely manner or with sufficient force to deal with the event that culminated with the storming of the US Capitol.

Federal agencies such as the Department of Defense, the FBI and possibly others, did not respond to calls for help to send reinforcements or approve the use of National Guard or non-federal law enforcement agencies for over 90 minutes after Senate and House leaders contacted law enforcement pleading for help.

Extremists made little secret of ambitions to 'occupy' Capitol in weeks before attack
On Thursday, Washington Police Chief Robert Contee said at a news conference that there was "no intelligence that suggested there would be a breach of the U.S. Capitol."

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/interne...ttack-n1253499

Law Enforcement was WELL aware, well in advance, of what was going to go down. Why were they so unprepared? Did DiaperDon block them?

Pentagon placed limits on D.C. Guard ahead of pro-Trump protests...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...da2_story.html

Law enforcement failure to prevent the storming of the Capitol building starts with the Capitol Police.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-c...pitol-n1253341

What was the limit, zero? tRump spent his entire term stuffing federal agencies with loyalists to do his bidding. Who at the Pentagon is responsible?

If only----.
https://www.salon.com/2021/01/08/don...is-own-making/

Actually, it took one hour for the Army Secretary to approve full mobilization of the DC National Guard. I honestly think that's fast work for the Pentagon. The general bureaucratic decision-making process involves a dozen guys signing off on anything.

The initial responses came from underlings who would have no discretion and be disposed to respond according to existing policy, which had been set with a mind to avoiding more criticism like the National Guard got for it's involvement during the BLM protests.

Certainly better security arrangements for DC should exist, and I am suspicious that some elements of the Capitol Police may actually have been complicit, or perhaps unwittingly complicit. But I think the old dictum of 'never ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity' is going to be very applicable to this whole thing.

There was an enormous crowd of very pissed off Trump supporters there. Congress is very lucky. Had this been anything other than a legitimate constitutionally protected exercise of the First Amendment, for example, if President Trump had actually done what the fake news media has wrongfully accused him of--inciting a riot--most of Congress would either be dead or in the hospital and the Capitol building would likely be burned to the ground.

And I find it really amusing that left wingers seem to have no problems with government offices (such as police departments in some blue states) being burned to the ground without the National Guard being allowed to stop it, but somehow a similar act on the politically correct Capitol is now "seditious."

What the Democrats in Congress have failed to learn about that day's little adventure is that they are a minority in America and are walking on very thin ice. When an angry majority has the balls to storm the Capitol, then states like Wisconsin, Georgia, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona might not be so safe on the next Election Day, should they try committing the same voter and election fraud they pulled last November.

It is a shame that this country has come to that, but let's not forget that the Democrats have brought this all on themselves.

If we are Monday morning quarterbacking with little good intel. Certain facts needs to be paramount all important, encompassing the incident. It occurred with little is appears in readiness preparedness. It was well known in advanced by the country. For weeks telegraphed by the cult leader of the day and time.
It almost appears on first reflection that a will was there, to support the actions by some in control of the very forces needed to protect.
There is going to be a new sheriff in town soon and the truth will come out. Arrest are forth coming.
I foresee the cult leader to pardon all those involved as one of his last acts. Not naming those involved with a blanket pardon for all the guilty. He has proven to be one with no shame or conscience.

What this action and subsequent reactions has shown me rather blatantly. Just who would of been a Nazi! We have many American Terrorist movements that coalesced around a leader through lies and disinformation.

There isn't a new sheriff in town. There is a liar/Nazi who was elected by copy machines, and voter fraud does not give him any legitimacy whatsoever.

Trump was the greatest president in the history of America. And in 2024 he will likely run for president and be reelected in a bigger landslide, making him the first American president since FDR to win more than two elections.

Of course, voter fraud prevented him from serving his rightful second term.

.........""DC riot updates: Capitol rioters are being identified, arrested; Twitter permanently suspends Trump""..........

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dc...cid=uxbndlbing

It seems you aren’t aware that claims of massive voter fraud have been looked into and dismissed by both republicans and democrats.

In short, what actually happened is that more people voted for the other guy. Pretty simple, really.

Peter Elkind @peterelkind

Trump “had also expressed interest beforehand in calling in the National Guard to hold off anti-Trump counter-protesters who might show up...only to turn around and resist calls for bringing those troops in after the rioting by his loyalists broke out.”

Democrats Ready Impeachment Charge Against Trump for Inciting Capitol Mob
Speaker Nancy Pelosi threatened decisive action against the president for his role in the insurrection against Congress if he refused to resign.
nytimes.com

6:57 AM · Jan 9, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

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Treason.

In this country one can make as many claims that their imagery voices conceive. The basis of fact having little to do with the claims. When claims are asserted taken to court then rejected due to being false for lacking any proof. Then still believed by someone, this says to me they are unwilling to believe in reality.

I was just trying to help Florida Man out so he doesn't go through life angry and misinformed.

Your analysis is truly ignorant.

DC is a Federal jurisdiction, and it's virtually impossible for a large gathering to take place without Federal law enforcement the Department of Defense and other agencies knowing about it and assessing the level of threat it constitutes.

The problem in the case of the Trump mob rally is that the Feds are controlled by the Executive branch (the President) and he made sure that Federal law enforcement did not deploy forces adequate to the possible threat.

The lies in your posts are vile as is your hero.

You choose to believe what you want to. Thankfully you and other brainwashed Trumpkin fools are a minority.

This guy is exactly what I've been talking about. The Republican party has been spoon feeding it's base lies and propaganda for years. They know exactly what flavor Kool-Aid they like. It's gotten so bad that left is right, up is down, wrong is right and reality left the building long ago. People with his viewpoint are useful to have a window into what the cult mind is thinking but that's about all. Engagement is like "playing chess with a pigeon".

Reason 10, there is no use trying to discuss anything with you now--you believe too much that isn't true, and you will defend your belief system and not listen to one word we say. Have a nice life.

I use, like arguing with a drunk, but yours works too!

There is little we can do that will help. Is it that they just don't want to admit were wrong, we were right? Or that reality is just to painful to comprehend and deal with, so the fantasy world was created?

Both?

Who knows, they will never make any sense to the rest of us. As much as we try to. For no logic to be had in their universe between their ears.

And this just in from the NYT (but after my post!):

In encounters with their constituents this week, Republican lawmakers have grappled with the consequences of their yearslong alliance with President Trump: an angry, misinformed base.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/09/u...gtype=Homepage

"Feds say police found a pickup truck full of bombs and guns near Capitol insurrection as wide-ranging investigation unfurls

An Alabama man allegedly parked a pickup truck packed with 11 homemade bombs, an assault rifle and a handgun two blocks from the US Capitol building on Wednesday for hours before authorities ever noticed, according to federal prosecutors." CNN

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fe...?ocid=msedgntp

Alabama man planning a 'Reichstag' incident?

No, that was the vehicle with all the molotov cocktails found Wed.

These loons are still wound up. I expect them to try something again between now and when Biden takes the oath of office. They truly believe their fight is right and their actions justified.

Patidoits!!!

Reason10, i'm game. Can you please point me to evidence of voter fraud that can be confirmed, so I can understand what you are referring to? Also, why was the vote certified by Republicans in all these states if there was evidence of fraud? Why did Trump appointed judges not see the merit of voter fraud claims brought to their courtrooms? I am genuinely trying to see your point of view here. Help me out.

Finally, are you saying that all alleged voter fraud favored Democrats and that none favored Republicans?

Give up......

There is no logic or reason let alone truth to any of the arguments put forth by a group of .......
Dear I say racist wanna be fascists to lame to be effective due the of stupidity the followers of a seriously ill leader.

Everyone thought the German Nazis were too lame to be effective until suddenly they were taking over everything. I am in a not so great mood, I fear too many will go along with the Trumpist militant racial supremacy movement, just because are susceptible to the message that they are the Real Americans, and the victims of dark(!) forces they must rise up and defeat. Polls say Trump has gained popularity since Wed.

Oh, most will think only a few crazies are actually racist, as they align with the movement. They themselves? Deny deny deny. 'I'm not racist but' rationalizations will be thick as flies.

But make no mistake, we are heading down the same master race road as the German Volk. And it will go to the same place, national destruction. In WWIII, billions will die, and we won't be on the good side.

From 12/16/2020 BTW>>>>>>


https://lincolnproject.us/video/never-happens-here/

The insurrection, and it ain't done yet, must be put down and put down hard. The rabble are less of a threat without a leader(s) to follow. Just imagine where we'd be as a country right now if it weren't for the Republican party pissing in the pool for all these years.

D.C.'s Acting U.S. Attorney Calls Scope Of Capitol Investigation 'Unprecedented'

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/10/95531...-unprecedented

DiaperDon has only ten days left to fire this guy. :rolleyes:

Come on, Reason10, persuade me. I'm listening, but you're not saying anything...

DOJ Counter-terrorism section getting involved with these numbnuts. DiaperDon must be having a fit. :D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErZwwUfX...jpg&name=small

Schwarzenegger compared the Capitol attack with the "Reichskristallnacht" and Biden compared Trump with Goebbels.

As a German I can tell you that both comparisons are inappropriate, most of you guys know that anyway, although the direction is correct. However, I understand Schwarzenegger and Biden - they express their anger in a most
possible harshness.

Yes, i won't quibble with very harsh comparisons at this point.

I just watched the Schwarzenegger video on youtube. It is very impressive.

I thought so too. Arnold has produced a series of excellent video essays during the Trump administration.

Gotta love the Governator!

I've always considered him an "honest broker" in politics, unlike so many unscrupulous pandering grifting opportunistic con-men.