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Not Insane 12-10-2020 07:20 AM

The Democrats Are in Bed with China, Literally
 
Is anyone here paying attention? You must know where this article is going, and so many just don't want to see it. But it's real. It matters. Ignore at your peril.

The Democrats Are in Bed with China, Literally

Waggs098 12-10-2020 08:59 AM

Yep and mainstream media won't mention it. One other thing that's funny is how I'm actually hearing about an investigation into Hunter Biden's taxes, conviently after the election. Hmmm weird.

Chicks 12-10-2020 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Waggs098 (Post 395241)
Yep and mainstream media won't mention it.

Um, actually, dumbfuck, the story broke at Axios a couple of days ago. But you're an ignorant ass who doesn't read, so there's that...

https://www.axios.com/china-spy-cali...ec0daf589.html

It's old news, from 2014. Naturally, Reich-wing media for dumbfucks is distorting it grossly.

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A statement from Swalwell's office provided to Axios said: "Rep. Swalwell, long ago, provided information about this person — whom he met more than eight years ago, and whom he hasn’t seen in nearly six years — to the FBI. To protect information that might be classified, he will not participate in your story."

What happened: Amid a widening counterintelligence probe, federal investigators became so alarmed by Fang's behavior and activities that around 2015 they alerted Swalwell to their concerns — giving him what is known as a defensive briefing.

Swalwell immediately cut off all ties to Fang, according to a current U.S. intelligence official, and he has not been accused of any wrongdoing.

Fang left the country unexpectedly in mid-2015 amid the investigation. She did not respond to multiple attempts by Axios to reach her by email and Facebook.
Only Waggs and the Insane clown are dumb enough to fall for the garbage spin in Reich-wing fake news.

donquixote99 12-10-2020 09:21 AM

The op linked source, lead sentence:

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The most shocking thing about the recent news story that flatulent Russiagate hoaxer and American-nuking enthusiast Rep. Eric Swalwell....
The most shocking thing to me is that presumably rational human beings can think that anything that begins like that is legitimate opinion.

Dondilion 12-10-2020 09:21 AM

It is not only the democrats.

nailer 12-10-2020 09:34 AM

Exactly.

Not Insane 12-10-2020 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 395244)
Um, actually, dumbfuck, the story broke at Axios a couple of days ago. But you're an ignorant ass who doesn't read, so there's that...

https://www.axios.com/china-spy-cali...ec0daf589.html

It's old news, from 2014. Naturally, Reich-wing media for dumbfucks is distorting it grossly.



Only Waggs and the Insane clown are dumb enough to fall for the garbage spin in Reich-wing fake news.

Axios isn't "Mainstream media". Most people have probably never heard of it. Your comments about it being distorted are laughable, though. The story is getting worse by the day.

And you can't ignore this: Security Concerns Raised As Eric Swalwell's Girlfriend Revealed To Be President Xi In A Wig

:D

Not Insane 12-10-2020 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 395246)
It is not only the democrats.

Agreed. This hints at why I left the R party over 15 years ago. It also reflects the feelings about a LOT of republican voters regarding Trump. That is, they don't see him as a "republican", but an independent, cleaning up the swamp, which is full of both R's and D's. e.g. Mitt Romney.

Not Insane 12-10-2020 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 395245)
The op linked source, lead sentence:



The most shocking thing to me is that presumably rational human beings can think that anything that begins like that is legitimate opinion.

Why?....

RickeyM 12-10-2020 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 395246)
It is not only the democrats.

You mean like Nepotism Barbie's business dealings and patents in China? Or #DiaperDon's business dealings and secret banks accounts in China?
Let's all jump on this Democrat/China nonsense and forget about the Drump family business dealings and financial backing from Russia. Let's not mention the Russian influence on President Reject tRump and the Repub party. Let's :rolleyes:

bobabode 12-10-2020 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Not Insane (Post 395235)
Is anyone here paying attention? You must know where this article is going, and so many just don't want to see it. But it's real. It matters. Ignore at your peril.

The Democrats Are in Bed with China, Literally

Flailing and flopping. :rolleyes:

Chicks 12-10-2020 01:22 PM

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Axios isn't "Mainstream media". Most people have probably never heard of it.
Only in Dumbfuckistan, where your idiot type lives. Here in reality world, Axios is widely read and respected. Their interview with your wannabe dictator back in August was widely viewed - though probably not in Dumbfukistan... :rolleyes:

nailer 12-10-2020 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Not Insane (Post 395261)
Agreed. This hints at why I left the R party over 15 years ago. It also reflects the feelings about a LOT of republican voters regarding Trump. That is, they don't see him as a "republican", but an independent, cleaning up the swamp, which is full of both R's and D's. e.g. Mitt Romney.

Speaking about swamps, of which I'm pretty familiar, Trump has certainly stirred up the muck in ours which needed to be done. Thing is, that's all he's done other than adding more than his fare share of new muck and saving the NYT.

donquixote99 12-10-2020 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Not Insane (Post 395262)
Why?....

Legitimate opinion analyzes facts and applies values in a reasonable way. Flamboyant, childish name-calling is not consistent with such.

RickeyM 12-10-2020 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nailer (Post 395274)
Speaking about swamps, of which I'm pretty familiar, Trump has certainly stirred up the muck in ours which needed to be done. Thing is, that's all he's done other than adding more than his fare share of new muck and saving the NYT.

When that muck is stirred up the stink of it makes it very noticeable. Some choose to act like it doesn't stink, some seek to get rid of it and its stench.

Dondilion 12-10-2020 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 395266)
You mean like Nepotism Barbie's business dealings and patents in China? Or #DiaperDon's business dealings and secret banks accounts in China?
Let's all jump on this Democrat/China nonsense and forget about the Drump family business dealings and financial backing from Russia. Let's not mention the Russian influence on President Reject tRump and the Repub party. Let's :rolleyes:



I mean a complete dereliction...a bipartisan one.
Allowed communist China to capture US best STEM universities.
Weak response from the different admins repub and dem when it was apparent that China was systematically stealing US IP.

Allowed China to organize an effective lobby in Washington.
Facilitated massive outsourcing to China even when it was obvious that China was gearing up to counter the US in everything and everywhere.

Chicks 12-10-2020 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Waggs098 (Post 395241)
One other thing that's funny is how I'm actually hearing about an investigation into Hunter Biden's taxes, conviently [sic] after the election. Hmmm weird.

Nothing "weird" about it, it's been DOJ policy for many years during elections. But then, you wouldn't know that, not being a reader. :rolleyes: Comey got the incompetent #DiaperDon elected by violating this policy.

Barr Worked to Keep Hunter Biden Probes From Public View During Election
The attorney general knew for months about investigations into Biden’s business and financial dealings

https://www.wsj.com/articles/barr-wo...on-11607653188

Yggdrasill 12-10-2020 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Not Insane (Post 395235)
Is anyone here paying attention? You must know where this article is going, and so many just don't want to see it. But it's real. It matters. Ignore at your peril.

The Democrats Are in Bed with China, Literally

I read the article until I reached the phrase, "as Tucker pointed out in a great monologue", which immediately set my propaganda alarm bells ringing. Actually, I read the rest and went to the Tucker monologue (which was as awful as I had anticipated) and sought out the referenced Di Dongsheng speech on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeegrkPx0xE

Insane, one question for your confirmation bias: how does the Townhall article work "Democrats" into its title? That's a partisan giveaway right there. If you actually watch the Dongsheng video, he says nothing about any political party, though he does mention Trump and Biden. He talks instead about government elites and Wall Street influence generally, saying that power elites in the political and financial circles tend to have China's back. Last I checked, Wall Street influenced both parties pretty strongly, though they did not have the cozy relationship they would have liked with Trump. FWIW, Trump's hard stance on China was sole thing he did that I liked. Still, Trump appeased the Street plenty, with bailouts and COVID deceptions to keep the market high. Hey, if you want to go anti-big money elitist, wtf do you support Trump and not, say, Bernie or Warren or AOC?

bobabode 12-11-2020 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Not Insane (Post 395235)
Is anyone here paying attention? You must know where this article is going, and so many just don't want to see it. But it's real. It matters. Ignore at your peril.

The Democrats Are in Bed with China, Literally

Townhalldotcom? I wouldn't line a birdcage with that rag. Consider the source. :rolleyes:

Not Insane 12-11-2020 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 395309)
Townhalldotcom? I wouldn't line a birdcage with that rag. Consider the source. :rolleyes:

Ad-hom.

They are not perfect, but they are certainly better than CNN. :D

Not Insane 12-11-2020 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Yggdrasill (Post 395302)
Insane, one question for your confirmation bias: how does the Townhall article work "Democrats" into its title?

It's just a play on words. Democrat is caught in a Chinese Honeypot, so the article reflects that. That's it. The article is about much more than that.

BTW, calling Tucker "partisan" is only accurate insomuch as he has a strong position against leftists, their perspective and agenda. This is in the same vein as calling Lincoln partisan for his perspective on the South, or Washington partisan for his perspective on England and those against independence.

Sometimes the high moral ground is to be what so many today call "partisan". We are in a battle for the country's soul right now as Russia was about 100 years ago and France was in the 19th century. All reasonable and informed people are taking a side.

nailer 12-11-2020 10:54 AM

Sorry Addled Homie, but that is just a titillating title to draw the reader into a less interesing article. An age old tactic practiced by all journalism.

Nice call to arms closing though.

bobabode 12-11-2020 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Not Insane (Post 395317)
Ad-hom.

They are not perfect, but they are certainly better than CNN. :D

They are a far reich, barking at the moon, propaganda spewing bunch of teabaggers.

RickeyM 12-11-2020 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 395330)
They are a far reich, barking at the moon, propaganda spewing bunch of teabaggers.

That's exactly why he considers them better than CNN :rolleyes:

RickeyM 12-11-2020 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 395288)
I mean a complete dereliction...a bipartisan one.
Allowed communist China to capture US best STEM universities.
Weak response from the different admins repub and dem when it was apparent that China was systematically stealing US IP.

Allowed China to organize an effective lobby in Washington.
Facilitated massive outsourcing to China even when it was obvious that China was gearing up to counter the US in everything and everywhere.

China's not worried about elections and other democracy stuff (sarcasm) that's why they can plan ahead for the next ten years or so. In America political parties dependant on voters look ahead to the next election instead of concentrating on the long game.

Waggs098 12-11-2020 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 395299)
Nothing "weird" about it, it's been DOJ policy for many years during elections. But then, you wouldn't know that, not being a reader. :rolleyes: Comey got the incompetent #DiaperDon elected by violating this policy.

Barr Worked to Keep Hunter Biden Probes From Public View During Election
The attorney general knew for months about investigations into Biden’s business and financial dealings

https://www.wsj.com/articles/barr-wo...on-11607653188

Ok so in my opinion that is a problem with our justice system. I would think the reason for this would be it's just an investigation and no one is found guilty until the investigation is over, so, an investigation shouldn't change public opinion. Is that correct?

Now if that is the case shouldn't all investigations, into our elected officials, be kept in the dark till there is an outcome as not to persuade public opinion till there is a determination?

One other thing. Not to get to far off but I think presidents being pardoned for crimes should not happen. Equal justice under the law?

donquixote99 12-11-2020 05:21 PM

Pardon power, like any power, can be abused. I guess we should not count on the goodness and integrity of the President, and have some degree of check on the power. Require constitutional amendment though.

Self-pardons should not fly, that's for sure. Supreme Court might well shoot that idea down if it is ever tested.


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