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JCricket 10-11-2020 05:39 PM

2020 election best case and worst case scenarios
 
Okay folks,
We are down to the last lap, a little over three weeks to go. I know it is up in the air, but the polls and predictions are getting more and more solid. Everything I am seeing and reading predicts Trump to lose, the house to remain democratic, and a slight margin of favor for the senate to change to democratic. I am going to state what I think the best and worse case outcomes of the elections. Worst case would involve civil unrest and outright bloodshed - so put that aside.

I have spent a bit of time mulling over possible outcomes and where they would lead. Rather than type all of it out, here is my sumarization.

Best case for the American people, Trump wins, the senate changes, they remove him after a very thorough trial and investigation. They show him for what he is to all of the world, to the point that only the true anarchists would defend him. Pence takes over and everybody tries to get along. I think this is a pipe dream.

This is the likely outcome. Both the legeslative branch and executive branch will be under complete democratic control. Joe Biden will either resign or retire before then end of the first term leaving Kamala Harris in charge. There will be violence and unrest and bloodhsed.

Worst case, Trump wins, the senate remains gop controlled, maybe the house switches to GOP(unlikely) and Trump flushes our governemnt and country down the toilet.

What do you folks think?

barbara 10-12-2020 05:47 AM

Trump loses. The SDNY comes for him.

donquixote99 10-12-2020 08:54 AM

Worst case is Biden wins but Trump refuses to concede and launches violent coup attempt that leads to full-blown civil war. 'Trump wins' is a close second; many of the worst effects of the above will happen, but more in slow motion.

RickeyM 10-12-2020 01:08 PM

In the first result the Dems would impeach and remove tRump just as the Sun will rise tomorrow. Then the Dems will turn their attention to removing Pence owing that he has been complicit in all that tRump did. Pence won't be able to lie his way out of any of it.
Just my $.02 on that.

donquixote99 10-12-2020 02:07 PM

Keep in mind that it takes a 2/3 vote in the senate to convict on impeachment.

Chicks 10-12-2020 03:05 PM

Best case, Donny is shut out in a landslide, Repubes lose the Senate, Dems retain the House. The country gets back to near normal. The Dem-majority FCC requires fairness in broadcasting once again, including on cable, kneecapping Faux "News".

Oerets 10-12-2020 04:20 PM

(1) Peaceful reactions to election results.



(2) Civil War



My fears there will be a contested and drawn out conclusion to just who won. Leaving the looser and supporters to accept or not. If the results are in any way deemed unjust or rigged like I'm seeing telegraphed by the cult. Things will be unsettled and troubling.

JCricket 10-12-2020 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 392794)
Keep in mind that it takes a 2/3 vote in the senate to convict on impeachment.

Forgot that part. I guess the dems could pull a dirty trick and change that law to a simple majority, then pull him from office.

donquixote99 10-12-2020 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JCricket (Post 392807)
Forgot that part. I guess the dems could pull a dirty trick and change that law to a simple majority, then pull him from office.

Well that turns out not to be the case. The two-thirds majority requirement is written into the Constitution, and it would take a constitutional amendment to change it. That won't happen because there are too many low-population red States, each of which swings as much weight as California in this count.

For the same reason, electoral college reform is totally off the table.

bobabode 10-12-2020 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 392808)
Well that turns out not to be the case. The two-thirds majority requirement is written into the Constitution, and it would take a constitutional amendment to change it. That won't happen because there are too many low-population red States, each of which swings as much weight as California in this count.

For the same reason, electoral college reform is totally off the table.

Yep....

bobabode 10-12-2020 05:26 PM

Best case... T'rump absconds to Moscow in AF1 with his mutant progeny.

Democrats are going to put their shoulders to the wheel and repair the serious damage that the seditious GOP has done to our country. Then the braindead populace of this country will vote the crooks back in for another round of rape, pillage and plunder.

Rinse, repeat.

I should've married that Swedish gal many years ago. Dual citizenship sounds pretty good right about now.

whell 10-13-2020 07:57 AM

Worst case - one party controls the House, Senate and Oval Office.

Chicks 10-13-2020 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 392811)
Worst case - Repubes control the House, Senate and Oval Office.

Fixed it for you!

nailer 10-13-2020 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 392811)
Worst case - one party controls the House, Senate and Oval Office.

"That government is best which governs least."

donquixote99 10-13-2020 02:09 PM

"In every life a little reign must fall."

bobabode 10-13-2020 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 392811)
Worst case - one party controls the House, Senate and Oval Office.

Should that happen you can thank the crooks in your party.

JCricket 10-13-2020 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 392811)
Worst case - one party controls the House, Senate and Oval Office.

I am not sure that is the worst case, but I do agree we are all better off if all three are not single party.

RickeyM 10-13-2020 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 392811)
Worst case - one party controls the House, Senate and Oval Office.

Oh we need two parties alright. The Democratic party and another that is not the current Republican party. The current crop of Republican politicians in D.C., and many other places, have shown they have no place in a democratic republic. There needs to be Dem control of all three branches for at least one term to begin undoing the damage wrought by tRump. After that we need term limits.

Chicks 10-13-2020 05:37 PM

Democrats Have 83.5 percent Chance of Taking Senate As Forecasts Suggest Clean Sweep

https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-c...-sweep-1538599

Best case scenario is also the most likely right now. Just waiting for Desperate Donny and Billy Barr to pull some completely off the wall illegal maneuver...

BigElCat 10-13-2020 08:39 PM

Just checked my registration status...I'm registered as unaffiliated.

Didn't mean to deceive y'all when I said I was a Democrat, I thought I was.

I'll go with Uncle Joe, and https://ballotpedia.org/Sharice_Davids.

I'm going to have to split the ticket in other places. Nobody has an agenda I can relate to.

bobabode 10-13-2020 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigElCat (Post 392844)
Just checked my registration status...I'm registered as unaffiliated.

Didn't mean to deceive y'all when I said I was a Democrat, I thought I was.

I'll go with Uncle Joe, and https://ballotpedia.org/Sharice_Davids.

I'm going to have to split the ticket in other places. Nobody has an agenda I can relate to.

Sounds reasonable. I've read good things about Ms. Davids.

Chicks 01-08-2021 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 392811)
Worst case - one party controls the House, Senate and Oval Office.

Awwww. Bummer for you! :D

BTW, have you noticed that the stock market has been hitting new records now that Biden has been confirmed? And you told us his "social-ist" policies would cause a market meltdown... :rolleyes:

Chicks 01-08-2021 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 392835)
Democrats Have 83.5 percent Chance of Taking Senate As Forecasts Suggest Clean Sweep

https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-c...-sweep-1538599

Just quoting myself here... :D

Chicks 01-08-2021 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by nailer (Post 392813)
"That government is best which governs least."

Yeah, tell that to your monthly Social Security checks and your Medicare. :rolleyes:

Oh, and all the FDR big-government programs that ended Hoover's Great Depression... :rolleyes:

Mark B 01-08-2021 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 396572)
Yeah, tell that to your monthly Social Security checks and your Medicare. :rolleyes:

Oh, and all the FDR big-government programs that ended Hoover's Great Depression... :rolleyes:

You know what really pisses me off about Libertarians and other of that ilk?

They supported (and may still support) leaving the determination of a citizens rights to the individual states. Fuck that!!!


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