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Not Insane 10-01-2020 08:11 AM

Black Chairman Of Proud Boys Defy Wallace And Biden For Calling Them White Supremacis
 
Story here: Black Chairman Of Proud Boys Defy Wallace And Biden For Calling Them White Supremacists – Videos From The Last Rally Show A Different Picture

Bottom line is this, from the article:
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The Proud Boys are a left-leaning (pro-degeneracy) group of Civic-Nationalist types – not even “right-wing,” much less “white supreeeemacist.”

But glad the Left has moved the “naaaazziiii” line of demarcation so far left. It is already becoming the n-word for ALL “white” people – can call each other this in jest, now.

noonereal 10-01-2020 08:23 AM

Can a mod give me a good reason why @Not Insane is not banned?

Not Insane 10-01-2020 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 392097)
Can a mod give me a good reason why @Not Insane is not banned?

Can you give me a good reason why I should be? What rules have I broken?

And disagreeing with you does not count.;)

noonereal 10-01-2020 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Not Insane (Post 392098)
Can you give me a good reason why I should be? What rules have I broken?

And disagreeing with you does not count.;)

this thread is a perfect example. It is a straight up troll thread. It's message board gaslighting.

Chicks 10-01-2020 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 392103)
this thread is a perfect example. It is a straight up troll thread. It's message board gaslighting.

Yes. Some here have speculated that this Insane clown is a paid troll. His posts certainly do nothing to counter that idea. I've had him on ignore since the start, as he's obviously not worth anyone's time.

Not Insane 10-01-2020 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 392103)
this thread is a perfect example. It is a straight up troll thread. It's message board gaslighting.

That is patently absurd.

I don't think you know what "troll" means.

Come to think of it, I don't think you know what "gaslighting" means either.

Here's a question: How many black members are there in the KKK?

Not Insane 10-01-2020 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 392106)
Yes. Some here have speculated that this Insane clown is a paid troll. His posts certainly do nothing to counter that idea. I've had him on ignore since the start, as he's obviously not worth anyone's time.

I think the real problem is that there have been so many rabid left wingers having a field day here with their bullying that they haven't realized that conservatives like me actually exist. We do.

And we are legion. There just are not that many that can do this while attending WebEx meetings that don't really need their attention except when they do. I do a lot of that, and it brings me here (and places like here) when it happens.

I am your glimpse of the world outside the leftist bubble. This is a hint at why Trump is president. :)

RickeyM 10-01-2020 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 392106)
Yes. Some here have speculated that this Insane clown is a paid troll. His posts certainly do nothing to counter that idea. I've had him on ignore since the start, as he's obviously not worth anyone's time.

Same here on the Ignore. Engaging to him is just like playing chess with a pigeon.

Not Insane 10-01-2020 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 392127)
Same here on the Ignore. Engaging to him is just like playing chess with a pigeon.

Well, you do what you gotta do. :D
Personally, I enjoy engaging people who disagree with me - as long as they can make coherent arguments.

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Not Insane 10-01-2020 10:01 AM

During the debate, Fox News anchor and moderator Chris Wallace asked Trump, “Are you willing, tonight, to condemn white supremacists and militia groups” — Trump cut in, saying, “Sure”“and to say that they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of these cities as we saw in Kenosha and as we’ve seen in Portland?”

“Sure, I’m willing to do that,” the president responded. “I would say almost everything I see is from the left-wing, not from the right-wing. I’m willing to do anything, I want to see peace.”

“Well, then do it, sir,” Wallace said. “Do it. Say it,” Biden chimed in.

“What do you want to call them? Give me a name. Give me a name,” Trump said.

“White supremacists and right-wing militias,” Wallace said. Biden also spoke over him, saying, “White supremacists, Proud Boys.”

Trump, flustered, addressed the only named group, the Proud Boys. “Proud Boys, stand back and stand by,” the president said. “But I tell you what, I tell you what, somebody’s got to do something about antifa and the Left.”

Bolded is quotes from the debate.

That was from here: Trump Eviscerates the False Narrative About His Proud Boys Answer to Chris Wallace's White Supremacy Question

The tag teaming by Biden and Wallace was fun. Trump literally said exactly what they asked, in front of God and everybody. :)

nailer 10-01-2020 10:02 AM

I truly doubt NI is being paid. However I do recall that he was paid for an entire year just to look over his coworker's shoulder, who spent his workday on FB.

BTW, has anyone figured out what "left-leaning (pro-degeneracy) group of Civic-Nationalist types" means?

Not Insane 10-01-2020 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by nailer (Post 392135)
I truly doubt NI is being paid. However I do recall that he was paid for an entire year just to look over his coworker's shoulder, who spent his workday on FB.

Two years. But only while walking by his desk. :)

And I give you kudos for remembering that.

BTW, at the turn of the century I was working on a contract at boeing and there was a row of people along a short wall where, as you walked by their row of desks (about 8 guys), you could see what was on their monitor. Their monitors faced the hall at a 45 degree angle so they were easy to see. I only occasionally had need to walk down that aisle, but when I did, over half of them were always on ESPN.com. It was pretty funny to me because I've never cared about sports other than to play them.

And in the mid-90's I was walking by a woman's cube at Nordstrom (I was an actual employee there in IT) and she was really quick to close solitaire, but the image only needs to be seen by a human for the tiniest fraction of a second for one to know what they've seen. I told her not to worry because I wasn't a manager. My old manager at T-Mobile IT used to play solitaire during meetings. She had no problem with it because if she really multi-tasked, it was hard to follow the meetings. In my case, I only need to hear my name and it's time to "spring into action".

I'll also be retiring VERY soon. At the very latest it will be when WFH ends. I'm done with that 3 hour commute and the extra $800 a month it was costing me to drive to work and park my car and pay Louisville income tax. WFH and the virus was a financial windfall for me. As well as a time windfall.

donquixote99 10-01-2020 10:53 AM

Having black people in your family, or being black yourself, does not cancel out your racism, if you have it. This is a case of an organization having one 'in the family.'

donquixote99 10-01-2020 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by nailer (Post 392135)
I truly doubt NI is being paid. However I do recall that he was paid for an entire year just to look over his coworker's shoulder, who spent his workday on FB.

BTW, has anyone figured out what "left-leaning (pro-degeneracy) group of Civic-Nationalist types" means?

It means the guy was blowing smoke like a named fire.

Not Insane 10-01-2020 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 392140)
Having black people in your family, or being black yourself, does not cancel out your racism, if you have it. This is a case of an organization having one 'in the family.'

All humans are racist to one degree or another. They are also ageist, sexist, classist, etc.

I sold hi-fi in the mid-70's and early 80's. I won every sales contest except the one that was half over when I first started - and I almost won that one. One of my secrets was to "tentatively" stereotype people, and then adjust according to their responses. This was based on all of the attributes above as well as attire, body movements, etc.

My wife can tell, when listening to me talking on the phone, whether I'm talking to a male or female.

The races are not just cosmetically different. They are different in their makeup to the core, at least to some degree. Of course, culture molds it much further.

But to quote Jesse Jackson: "There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then (I) look around and see someone white and feel relieved."

Discussed effectively here.

Not Insane 10-01-2020 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 392140)
Having black people in your family, or being black yourself, does not cancel out your racism, if you have it. This is a case of an organization having one 'in the family.'

A white man married to a black woman may, in the heat of an argument, call her the "N" word. It doesn't mean he's racist. It means he's trying to hurt her, which is what people often try to do during verbal fights.

nailer 10-01-2020 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 392141)
It means the guy was blowing smoke like a named fire.

That may very well be what the author was doing, though not what the phrase may mean.

nailer 10-01-2020 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Not Insane (Post 392142)
The races are not just cosmetically different. They are different in their makeup to the core, at least to some degree.

DNA would appear to argue otherwise.

Chicks 10-01-2020 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by nailer (Post 392149)
DNA would appear to argue otherwise.

There you go again, using science against a religious bigot! ;)

RickeyM 10-01-2020 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by Not Insane
The races are not just cosmetically different. They are different in their makeup to the core, at least to some degree.

Oooweee, he went there. ROFLMBO.

https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Mis.../S/ignor-S.jpg

donquixote99 10-01-2020 03:57 PM

It was cute how he goes full racist, then tries to smooth it over, at least to some degree.

Chicks 10-05-2020 09:08 AM

Gay men take over Proud Boys hashtag on Twitter 'to reclaim our pride'

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...up/3620924001/

Too funny! :D

Chicks 10-05-2020 09:40 AM

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