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Not Insane 07-28-2020 08:54 AM

Are Leftists Literally Addicted to Hatred?
 
After reading some articles and watching videos over the past 20 years, specifically, this article really made a lot of things clear.

I've said for a long time that the primary debate tools of the left are:
Ad hominem attack
Projection
deflection

And the projection part especially rang true. Like the leftist who feely admitted he was voting for Obama because he was black, and accusing me of voting against him because he's black - even though I've never voted for ANY democrat for president in my life.

Or the constant accusations that conservatives are the ones that spew hate, even though when you watch a BLM, Antifa, "hands up, don't shoot" rally and juxtapose against a TEA party rally and you get the opposite opinion. Or the fascist Antifa calling the right "fascist.

And this article really nailed the "hate" projection. So here it is:

Are Leftists Literally Addicted to Hatred?

I think the answer is a resonding yes. They tend to be younger (under 25) and, therefore, more emotional in their response - which includes hatred. The right is far more mature and tends to respond more logically and with long term consequences of their response in mind.

But it's a great article.

Chicks 07-28-2020 09:11 AM

New study identifies a psychological factor linked to Trump supporters’ vindictiveness

https://www.psypost.org/2020/03/new-...tiveness-56280

Quote:

The desire to matter and feel significant among Donald Trump supporters is associated with support for hostile and vindictive actions against the president’s political rivals, according to new research published in the journal Political Psychology.
Pretty clear that Trumpkins are the haters. They're quite pathetic, but I really can't find any empathy for them. Sad.

watsup1000 07-28-2020 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Insane (Post 388365)
After reading some articles and watching videos over the past 20 years, specifically, this article really made a lot of things clear.

I've said for a long time that the primary debate tools of the left are:
Ad hominem attack
Projection
deflection

And the projection part especially rang true. Like the leftist who feely admitted he was voting for Obama because he was black, and accusing me of voting against him because he's black - even though I've never voted for ANY democrat for president in my life.

Or the constant accusations that conservatives are the ones that spew hate, even though when you watch a BLM, Antifa, "hands up, don't shoot" rally and juxtapose against a TEA party rally and you get the opposite opinion. Or the fascist Antifa calling the right "fascist.

And this article really nailed the "hate" projection. So here it is:

Are Leftists Literally Addicted to Hatred?

I think the answer is a resonding yes. They tend to be younger (under 25) and, therefore, more emotional in their response - which includes hatred. The right is far more mature and tends to respond more logically and with long term consequences of their response in mind.

But it's a great article.


IRONIC POST OF THE DAY to have a right winger accuse liberals of “hate”.

Not Insane 07-28-2020 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watsup1000 (Post 388371)
IRONIC POST OF THE DAY to have a right winger accuse liberals of “hate”.

What is a "right winger"?

I'm a conservative using modern vernacular. But at the time of my country's founding, the phrase would have been classical liberal. I know a lot of conservatives and a lot of liberals, having friends and family all over the country. Just a perusal of my wife's and my facebook feed would paint a pretty clear picture of which side is steeped in hate. It's tangible.

And it is on display in this very site. Have a nice day, friend. :)

Not Insane 07-28-2020 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 388370)
New study identifies a psychological factor linked to Trump supporters’ vindictiveness

https://www.psypost.org/2020/03/new-...tiveness-56280



Pretty clear that Trumpkins are the haters. They're quite pathetic, but I really can't find any empathy for them. Sad.

There's the difference. Most of the conservatives I know actually have empathy for the leftists. Heck, we were all young at one time and were leftists ourselves. We can actually relate. :)

But we grew up. And most of these kids rioting now will too.

Not Insane 07-28-2020 09:19 AM

This great article covers the whole thing from a different angle:

Street mobs and democrats

Quote:

Never, goes the ancient adage, pick a fight you're not prepared to finish.

The craziness, the certifiable lunacy, that swirls about us testifies to the inability of the left to think through the implications of what it began, peaceably enough, last May in the streets of Minneapolis, which presently envelops the country to one degree or another.

The left escalates the street violence, not to mention the violence perpetrated on reason and logic by unreasonable, illogical declarations, through the pretense that it's all the fault of the white Republican authorities.

The party that throws the first punch claims innocent bystander status? Hogwash. To throw the first punch is to invite a counterpunch by the punchee, thoroughly convinced of not having provoked anything -- anything, that is, that might justify the resultant knock-down drag-out.

The left started this business and now finds itself unready to finish it, to the enrichment of -- ironically enough -- President Donald Trump's laggard hopes of winning a second term.

Illogic takes you only so far, as with the claim that federal "storm troopers" in jackboots have taken over portions of downtown Portland, Oregon, to the impeachment of life and liberty and to the enthronement of fascism. Of course, they haven't. Can't you tell by looking? See any jackboots? See federal agents starting any brawls -- the kind of brawls that protesters of left have trademarked?

According to the left, poor, innocent rioters are getting set on by the jackboot set for exercising the right of free speech. Trying to break into a federal courthouse isn't free speech, though free and intelligent speech are presently in high demand and would be welcomed for the sake of improving social interactions.

The obligatory mention of George Floyd and Derek Chauvin seems, for TV news purposes, to brush aside objections to mob violence when it really ought to remind us that dealing in a legal system with violence requires the opposite of violence -- to wit, orderly processes prescribed by the law, arguments rather than fights.

The wild and woolly left all too obviously doesn't care a fig for the just punishment of unjust offenses. If it did, it would stand down from arson and street battles with the cops. That's not the program. There is, in fact, no program beyond fighting and burning and denouncing and pretending to embrace an idealism it would better exemplify by letting fellow Americans live in peace.

The left -- back to where we came in -- has started a fight it doesn't know how to finish, or maybe doesn't want to finish. Idiocy for the sake of idiocy is the policy on display. Meanness for the sake of meanness.

What do you do with idiocy and meanness if, by chance, you gain the upper hand? Here's the challenge for those Democrats, including Joe Biden, who hope the noise from the streets drowns out anything Trump might have to say about more authentic goals in life; among those goals is putting the pandemic behind us and refloating the U.S. economy.

The polls show Trump way down at present -- a sure loser to Biden in just three months' time. The polls could be right. But then, two related considerations kick in.

No. 1: Could our mob moment, and the facility of the Democrats in apologizing for bad behavior that seemingly undercuts Trump, end up strengthening the very guy they want to finish off?

No. 2: What if they win anyway? What then? After victory comes governing. An administration ushered into power by, in part, the ugliness of violence has to decide what to do. How do you shape a unitive program while the memories of violence and disruption and name-calling linger large? How do you pass such a program? Do you, in the mode of street protest, stuff it down people's throats? And then what? And for how long? And with what effects on popular consent and general peace?

Are the Democrats thinking along these lines? They should be. As the book of proverbs would have it, there is a lion in the streets, in the form of a snarling mob. And those who seem not to care or notice do their country no service.

Chicks 07-28-2020 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watsup1000 (Post 388371)
IRONIC POST OF THE DAY to have a right winger accuse liberals of “hate”.

Yes, especially from this Insane clown, who’s clearly a sociopath, like his cult-master. Sad!

Not Insane 07-28-2020 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 388376)
Yes, especially from this Insane clown, who’s clearly a sociopath, like his cult-master. Sad!

Is ad-hom literally all you have? I think you need to give Democratic Underground a try. You should fit in right there and they probably won't ban you. :D

Oerets 07-28-2020 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Insane (Post 388365)
After reading some articles and watching videos over the past 20 years, specifically, this article really made a lot of things clear.

I've said for a long time that the primary debate tools of the left are:
Ad hominem attack
Projection
deflection

And the projection part especially rang true. Like the leftist who feely admitted he was voting for Obama because he was black, and accusing me of voting against him because he's black - even though I've never voted for ANY democrat for president in my life.

Or the constant accusations that conservatives are the ones that spew hate, even though when you watch a BLM, Antifa, "hands up, don't shoot" rally and juxtapose against a TEA party rally and you get the opposite opinion. Or the fascist Antifa calling the right "fascist.

And this article really nailed the "hate" projection. So here it is:

Are Leftists Literally Addicted to Hatred?

I think the answer is a resonding yes. They tend to be younger (under 25) and, therefore, more emotional in their response - which includes hatred. The right is far more mature and tends to respond more logically and with long term consequences of their response in mind.

But it's a great article.


Plenty of hate to go around Dude!:rolleyes:


What is it with people?
That it always takes violence, destruction and sorrow in order to get the parties to work things out it seems? That the act of getting tired of the anguish and pain is the motivation. Not seeing the need until afterwards instead of before.

Ike Bana 07-28-2020 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Insane (Post 388375)
This great article covers the whole thing from a different angle:

Street mobs and democrats

Yeh...Townhall.com, the propaganda rag of American right-wingdolt Trump voters.

Oerets 07-28-2020 10:37 AM

Thinking just now while listening to Angry Man radio. Why is there no successful equivalent with the progressive agenda?

Could it be there is no one interested?

Or that they get their news and facts from other more reliable reporting sources?

Ask as to why the Right needs to skew twist contrive leaving out to out right lying to counter the media reporting?

Not Insane 07-28-2020 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 388388)
Thinking just now while listening to Angry Man radio. Why is there no successful equivalent with the progressive agenda?

Could it be there is no one interested?

Or that they get their news and facts from other more reliable reporting sources?

Ask as to why the Right needs to skew twist contrive leaving out to out right lying to counter the media reporting?

I don't think they do. I used to listen to talk radio all the time. The internet sort of short circuited that. But I've been listening since the early 80's. Back then, in my hometown of Seattle, talk radio meant stuff like "pet grooming tips". Politics was a challenge but I don't know why. Then they got into politics on KING A.M. It was hopelessly liberal. It got to where you could tell the host had hung up on the conservative caller because he started monologuing. I was able to get on the air a few times and it was comical I'd be in the middle of a solid retort and I'd hear the click. Then I'd turn on the radio, broadcast in a five second delay, and the host would reword my comments, changing their meaning, and then burn down the straw man he had just created.

Then conservatives started broadcasting. The first big one in Seattle was KVI 570. The station went from oldies music to talk radio. It was a huge hit. They brought in Rush Limbaugh after a few years. And Rush Limbaugh would have a field day with any liberal that called in. They learned not to.
But in the 21st century people like Michael Medved, a staunch conservative, would actually move liberals up to the front of the call in line and debate with them over multiple commercial breaks.

Then came Air America. I really tried to listen but it was beyond boring. And some of the hosts would PLEAD with people to call in. It was my introduction to Rachel Maddow. I thought she was pretty funny with her leftist lunacy, but even then could only stomach it up to a point. If someone is making solid arguments, I can listen even if they disagree with my position. It is often how I learn. But she was just preaching to her own choir with terribly twisted "facts".

The reason conservatives "own" the talk radio world is because it is a world of debating. And in the world of debating, solid arguments based on logic and strategic thinking with a solid grounding in history beat emotional responses every time. The latter can only be tolerated up to a point - which is why Air America no longer exists.

jmcslob 07-28-2020 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Insane (Post 388365)
After reading some articles and watching videos over the past 20 years, specifically, this article really made a lot of things clear.

I've said for a long time that the primary debate tools of the left are:
Ad hominem attack
Projection
deflection

And the projection part especially rang true. Like the leftist who feely admitted he was voting for Obama because he was black, and accusing me of voting against him because he's black - even though I've never voted for ANY democrat for president in my life.

Or the constant accusations that conservatives are the ones that spew hate, even though when you watch a BLM, Antifa, "hands up, don't shoot" rally and juxtapose against a TEA party rally and you get the opposite opinion. Or the fascist Antifa calling the right "fascist.

And this article really nailed the "hate" projection. So here it is:

Are Leftists Literally Addicted to Hatred?

I think the answer is a resonding yes. They tend to be younger (under 25) and, therefore, more emotional in their response - which includes hatred. The right is far more mature and tends to respond more logically and with long term consequences of their response in mind.

But it's a great article.

it's not a great article.
That's using facts to twist a bias point of view.
You point out three things you believe that leftists do in arguments and then do all them.
ANTIFA literally means ANTI-FASCIST.
You're saying the people that are against something are for doing it. I think maybe you don't have any idea of what ANTIFA actually is and you're getting that from actual Fascist's.
Also ANTIFA is an idea.

BLM is saying that everyone matters but I think you're forgetting about us.

Ike Bana 07-28-2020 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Insane (Post 388374)
There's the difference. Most of the conservatives I know actually have empathy for the leftists. Heck, we were all young at one time and were leftists ourselves. We can actually relate. :)

But we grew up. And most of these kids rioting now will too.

Most conservatives I've run into don't exhibit a whole lot of empathy for anybody or anything outside of their wallet.

Oerets 07-28-2020 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 388393)
Most conservatives I've run into don't exhibit a whole lot of empathy for anybody or anything outside of their wallet.

Truth!

donquixote99 07-28-2020 11:32 AM

Are conservatives ADDICTED to trollish lies and innuendo?


...or can they quit any time they want?

Oerets 07-28-2020 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 388396)
Are conservatives ADDICTED to trollish lies and innuendo?


...or can they quit any time they want?

Naw, like any addict, once hooked it takes more and more to achieve the same level of enjoyment.:D

RickeyM 07-28-2020 11:39 AM

Republicans have been so programmed to hate by the GOP that it's the only feeling they know. Like if you don't like something you must hate it!. One of the things the New Reich does is convince their followers that all the opposition opposes is because of hate. They hate all that is good about America and they hate tRump because we (Republicans) love him. Thus they see everything spoken about Herr Rump as hatred. Personally I don't hate the man. I don't like him, I don't think he's qualified in any way to hold our nations highest office. I think it's reprehensible the things he's done and continue to do. I can hold these beliefs all day long without hating the guy.

Not Insane 07-28-2020 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jmcslob (Post 388392)
it's not a great article.
That's using facts to twist a bias point of view.
You point out three things you believe that leftists do in arguments and then do all them.
ANTIFA literally means ANTI-FASCIST.
You're saying the people that are against something are for doing it. I think maybe you don't have any idea of what ANTIFA actually is and you're getting that from actual Fascist's.
Also ANTIFA is an idea.

BLM is saying that everyone matters but I think you're forgetting about us.

I'm quite aware what Antifa means. That's what is so comical about it.

And though I think all people are biased, I thought the point of view was excellent. Some people would say they would not read an article by a jew about the evil deeds of the Nazis because he's biased - even if everything in it is completely accurate and true.

Ike Bana 07-28-2020 12:01 PM

Well...I find it pretty difficult to have any feeling but disgust for a despicable sociopathic grifter, pedophile, misogynist.

Not Insane 07-28-2020 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 388393)
Most conservatives I've run into don't exhibit a whole lot of empathy for anybody or anything outside of their wallet.

You need to get out more. Here is some perspective from a leftist that actually is honest about what they experienced:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lp7lh1x5uI

Chicks 07-28-2020 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 388396)
Are conservatives ADDICTED to trollish lies and innuendo?


...or can they quit any time they want?

If the Trumpkin idiots here are any indication, they're highly addicted to YooToob propaganda videos, which is porn to them.

Not Insane 07-28-2020 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 388409)
If the Trumpkin idiots here are any indication, they're highly addicted to YooToob propaganda videos, which is porn to them.

https://veritasdomain.files.wordpres...igh-d39msf.jpg

watsup1000 07-28-2020 05:25 PM

Are leftists literally addicted to hatred?

I see. In your right wing world, personalized ad hom is not allowed, but generalized ad hom is. And it is right wingers like yourself and the rest of them that are truly addicted to same. It forms the foundations of basically all of your “debate” material.

FordGT90 07-28-2020 05:35 PM

It makes more sense to me to attribute hate to specific personality traits rather than political groups. Hateful people will use politics as an outlet for their feelings.

Chicks 07-28-2020 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FordGT90 (Post 388436)
Hateful people will use politics as an outlet for their feelings.

The Orange Shitstain in a nutshell...

bobabode 07-28-2020 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watsup1000 (Post 388432)
Are leftists literally addicted to hatred?

I see. In your right wing world, personalized ad hom is not allowed, but generalized ad hom is. And it is right wingers like yourself and the rest of them that are truly addicted to same. It forms the foundations of basically all of your “debate” material.

Bingo.

Chicks 07-28-2020 06:38 PM

This Insane clown's threads go about as well for him as Whell's did for him. :D

watsup1000 07-28-2020 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FordGT90 (Post 388436)
It makes more sense to me to attribute hate to specific personality traits rather than political groups. Hateful people will use politics as an outlet for their feelings.

So true. And there are a plethora of hateful people in the right-wing. Just watch a few minutes of FOX sometimes and it becomes quite clear.

watsup1000 07-28-2020 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 388456)
Bingo.


Thank you, Bob. It is indeed true. It's rarely about policy with the right wingers. It's about slandering and slurring and diminishing and demeaning liberals, both individually and as a group.

watsup1000 07-28-2020 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Insane (Post 388375)
This great article covers the whole thing from a different angle:

Street mobs and democrats

If we had emojis, the one that would describe this screed is :crazy.

watsup1000 07-28-2020 09:19 PM

The reason conservatives "own" the talk radio world is because it is a world of debating. And in the world of debating, solid arguments based on logic and strategic thinking with a solid grounding in history beat emotional responses every time.

As usual, you are hilarious! There is no "debate" in right-wing radio. It is demagoguery pure and simple. If a liberal does happen to get on the air, the host spends time demeaning that person and their inputs after the phone is hung up. That's not "debate". It's what I call it above. Newt's favorite attack word against liberals, but psychological projection bigtime.
The reason that right-wing talk radio is so popular is that, for some reason, right-wingers need constant feedback and approval, and they get it by spending many hours each day listening to talk radio, watching FOX, or looking for you tubes and articles that support their beliefs and tell them what to "think".
Liberals, on the other hand, are more confident of themselves intellectually such that they don't need that constant support. They can actually think for themselves instead of parroting the talking points of the day, the week, the year, or the decade.
Talking points like "liberals are emotional". Is outrage an emotion? I would think so. Right-wing media is geared to get their fans OUTRAGED! It's basically what they spend all their time doing. And given that it has been shown that the mass of right-wingers are often uneducated and thus open to propaganda, it means big bucks for those on radio and TV and elsewhere who can provoke that outrage on a daily basis.
We see a lot of that outrage in your posts here every day.

watsup1000 07-28-2020 09:27 PM

I've said for a long time that the primary debate tools of the left are:
Ad hominem attack
Projection
deflection

….Talk about projection! Those are the prime debate tactics of the right wing, including yourself.


.

Or the constant accusations that conservatives are the ones that spew hate, even though when you watch a BLM, Antifa, "hands up, don't shoot" rally and juxtapose against a TEA party rally and you get the opposite opinion. Or the fascist Antifa calling the right "fascist.

Conservatives are the ones that spew hate. That is fact.
And you keep conflating BLM and Antifa when they are two totally different entities. You clearly do so because you want to project the violence of Antifa onto BLM so that you don't have to admit that BLM demonstrations, per se, are almost always peaceful.
And the Tea Party did not impress me. For the most part, they didn't seem to know what they were protesting. It was mostly just a way for senior citizen Republicans who didn't have much else to do to get together and do some generalizes complaining. No, it was not "also Democrats". It was REPUBLICAN politicians who showed up. It was signs for REPUBLICANS that they carried, and signs demeaning Obama and other Democrats. They seemed to have the debt and deficit in their sights, but then why no Tea Party protests when it was learned that the Trump/Republican tax cut for the wealthy elite was going to result in trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye could see.
No, the Tea Party was just a way for bored senior citizens to have something to do. *YAWN*

donquixote99 08-25-2020 07:19 PM

The OP, of course, is loaded with a lie. Which brings up this little essay, seen on Facebook:
------------------
Not my words but definitely reflects my thoughts:

Just a note for my right leaning family and friends from my left leaning self as we near voting day:
Just because we want equality for all doesn’t mean we want to take anything away from you.
They say we want to disband police departments (and that we hate the police): we don’t, that’s a lie. We want to weed out racism and unnecessary police brutality and for those who abuse their power to be held accountable.
They say we want to release all prisoners: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want to weed out racism and ensure the punishments match the crimes and to deprivatize prisons.
They say we want open borders: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want asylum seekers to be given their chance to seek asylum. We want to help people who are coming from unimaginable terror and poverty help to give them the chances we have. We want to ensure children aren’t separated from their parents and that nobody is kept in cages. But we do want proper vetting.
They say we want to take away your guns: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want logical gun owner support and follow up to reduce unnecessary deaths- by mass shootings or even accidents.
They say we want to wage a war on Christianity and Christian values: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want people of all religions to be able to practice and worship freely.
They say we want to get everything for free: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want to work hard and make sure that healthcare and education are affordable for all.
They say we want a war against traditional marriage: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want people of all sexual orientations to be able to love freely, no matter who you love.
They say we want to destroy or rewrite history: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want to recognize the ugly parts of our past and do everything we can to say “that’s not okay, let’s not honor those aggressors, let’s not let those things happen again”.
They say we want to take away your constitutional rights: we don’t, that’s a lie. We choose to believe science and wear masks and try to prevent the spread of this disease.
They say we hate America: we don’t, that’s a lie. We just recognize our faults and want us to do better, be better.
Stop with the us vs. them. Stop with the straw man arguments. Stop with the fake news. Our position is one of empathy, compassion and logic.
Stop believing the hype. Stop with the division. Just because we want equality for all doesn’t mean we want to take anything away from you.
(credit to Carol Orth Thank you Nurse Peggy McDaniel)

RickeyM 08-25-2020 08:40 PM

Trouble is the tRumpkins are brainwashed and believe every word of that to be lies. The good thing is that we outnumber them.

Not Insane 08-31-2020 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by watsup1000 (Post 388478)
The reason conservatives "own" the talk radio world is because it is a world of debating. And in the world of debating, solid arguments based on logic and strategic thinking with a solid grounding in history beat emotional responses every time.

As usual, you are hilarious! There is no "debate" in right-wing radio.

Michael Medved would put leftist callers to the front of the line and let them go on as long as they wanted, for the most part. Many times they stayed even past the hour break. It's because he destroyed every single one of them, one by one. It was actually fairly entertaining.

Interestingly, I'm not even a fan of the guy. He was a staunch nevertrumper, but boy, did he slice up leftists in debate.

There is a reason the left is mostly the young. Most will grow out of it as their brain leaves the realm of mostly emotional thinking.

Not Insane 08-31-2020 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 390509)
The OP, of course, is loaded with a lie. Which brings up this little essay, seen on Facebook:
------------------
Not my words but definitely reflects my thoughts:

Just a note for my right leaning family and friends from my left leaning self as we near voting day:
Just because we want equality for all doesn’t mean we want to take anything away from you.
They say we want to disband police departments (and that we hate the police): we don’t, that’s a lie. We want to weed out racism and unnecessary police brutality and for those who abuse their power to be held accountable.
They say we want to release all prisoners: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want to weed out racism and ensure the punishments match the crimes and to deprivatize prisons.
They say we want open borders: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want asylum seekers to be given their chance to seek asylum. We want to help people who are coming from unimaginable terror and poverty help to give them the chances we have. We want to ensure children aren’t separated from their parents and that nobody is kept in cages. But we do want proper vetting.
They say we want to take away your guns: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want logical gun owner support and follow up to reduce unnecessary deaths- by mass shootings or even accidents.
They say we want to wage a war on Christianity and Christian values: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want people of all religions to be able to practice and worship freely.
They say we want to get everything for free: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want to work hard and make sure that healthcare and education are affordable for all.
They say we want a war against traditional marriage: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want people of all sexual orientations to be able to love freely, no matter who you love.
They say we want to destroy or rewrite history: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want to recognize the ugly parts of our past and do everything we can to say “that’s not okay, let’s not honor those aggressors, let’s not let those things happen again”.
They say we want to take away your constitutional rights: we don’t, that’s a lie. We choose to believe science and wear masks and try to prevent the spread of this disease.
They say we hate America: we don’t, that’s a lie. We just recognize our faults and want us to do better, be better.
Stop with the us vs. them. Stop with the straw man arguments. Stop with the fake news. Our position is one of empathy, compassion and logic.
Stop believing the hype. Stop with the division. Just because we want equality for all doesn’t mean we want to take anything away from you.
(credit to Carol Orth Thank you Nurse Peggy McDaniel)

Wowsers. And I thought Trump was a liar. What do you think "defund the police" actually means? If what you say is actually true, the left is terrible at getting their message out. :D

Not Insane 08-31-2020 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 390513)
Trouble is the tRumpkins are brainwashed and believe every word of that to be lies. The good thing is that we outnumber them.

First sentence is projection. The second is delusion.

You do outnumber them in the riots and looting, but that is about it. Ever heard the phrase, "silent majority"? One of the things that make them silent is that they don't tend to riot, loot, or even protest. They try to get their point across at the voting booth.

Not Insane 08-31-2020 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by watsup1000 (Post 388479)
I've said for a long time that the primary debate tools of the left are:
Ad hominem attack
Projection
deflection

….Talk about projection! Those are the prime debate tactics of the right wing, including yourself.

I know you are, but what am I? :D

Sorry, but I came up with that list when I was on a site where leftists were all over those three. Eventually, the site changed their rules where you could be banned for ad-hominem attacks. One by one, the leftists were banned in large numbers. It's still mostly leftists (musician site), but the leftist herd was seriously culled. Only one guy on the right was banned. Truth be told, he always seemed to espouse conservative thought, but in a "lockstep" fashion. That is, I often wondered if he was really a leftist pretending to be a conservative. But they banned him too.

noonereal 08-31-2020 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Not Insane (Post 388365)
Are Leftists Literally Addicted to Hatred?

I have noticed that there is a Russian or two in every political board on the net now.


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