Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 388068)

Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 388071)

Originally Posted by Mark B (Post 388096)

RE: the OP, that's bullshit, police are being killed by extremists and criminals, not BLM protestors.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/small-town...ry?id=71017820

Originally Posted by Mark B (Post 388096)

RE: the OP, that's bullshit, police are being killed by extremists and criminals, not BLM protestors.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/small-town...ry?id=71017820

Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 388084)

Originally Posted by Not Insane (Post 388102)

Where did the OP mention BLM?

Originally Posted by Not Insane (Post 388103)

I was not aware of the feds attacking liberty - other than the "liberty" to destroy other people's property or attack other people directly.

Originally Posted by Mark B (Post 388109)

Really, you missed the video of unidentified Feds in Portland beating and gassing peaceful protestors?

Originally Posted by Not Insane (Post 388101)

Sure, there is the occasional far right winger that goes off the reservation, like that ONE guy in NC, but was he even a Trump supporter?

Originally Posted by Mark B (Post 388108)

That's the message I get from the OP. Have there been other widespread protests in the US recently?

Please feel free to edit the post to exclude the BLM protests.

Originally Posted by Mark B (Post 388109)

Really, you missed the video of unidentified Feds in Portland beating and gassing peaceful protestors?

Originally Posted by FordGT90 (Post 388115)

I'd argue it doesn't matter. Guy grew up fatherless, was a schizo, probably bi-polar, was on anti-psychotic drugs, etc. He has all of the warning signs the school shooters have. He just choose a different protestors instead of kids and a vehicle instead of a gun:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ly-set-n939991



Around here, oil/gas/shale pipelines generate most of the protests. There were no cops attacked, nevermind killed. I don't recall any destruction of property. Stores were definitely not looted. No one was assaulted. They took the matter to court and won: the pipeline was moved. BLM could learn a thing or hundred from them.



The protestors went to the federally defended courthouse that was previously vandalized, not the other way around. People don't have to protest close to law enforcement action. They choose to because they want to incite a response.

Law enforcers get their orders from the people that write their checks: law makers. Law makers got the George Floyd message back in May and they were told by the press that nothing is likely to happen until 2021 because of COVID-19 and being deep into an election year. Those facts have not changed and they won't change because that's the way the process works.

Originally Posted by Mark B (Post 388117)

BLM protestors don't control who shows up to use the protest as cover.

Originally Posted by Mark B (Post 388117)

What I'm referring to are the many examples of peaceful protestors in Portland that are not on Federal property when they were assaulted and/or gassed. You might want to bone up on the facts before you respond.

Originally Posted by FordGT90 (Post 388120)

Indeed.


Remember why those federal agents are there in the first place: $40,000 in damage to the federal court house. If city and state refuses to restore order, it falls to the federal government to do so. They aren't there because they want to be; property damage made them come.

You're right that it's a minority of people doing the damage but the point is unchanged: give law enforcement space to do their job. Do not approach. Do not engage with them. Do not give them probable cause. There will be no conflict.

Originally Posted by FordGT90 (Post 388120)

Indeed.


Remember why those federal agents are there in the first place: $40,000 in damage to the federal court house. If city and state refuses to restore order, it falls to the federal government to do so. They aren't there because they want to be; property damage made them come.

You're right that it's a minority of people doing the damage but the point is unchanged: give law enforcement space to do their job. Do not approach. Do not engage with them. Do not give them probable cause. There will be no conflict.

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 388160)

$40,000? How many millions do you suppose are being burned up by the paramilitary force? Salary and fringes probably $1000 a man/day easy, at contractor rates, plus travel and per diem....

Originally Posted by FordGT90 (Post 388172)

They're likely salaried government employees. Doesn't matter what they're doing they get paid the same.

Originally Posted by FordGT90 (Post 388172)

They're likely salaried government employees. Doesn't matter what they're doing they get paid the same.

Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 388136)

Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 388218)

Neo-Nazis, because the original Nazis did so well.
Neo-Nazi racists, because a regular ol' American racist isn't enough.

Originally Posted by Mark B (Post 388108)

That's the message I get from the OP. Have there been other widespread protests in the US recently?

Please feel free to edit the post to exclude the BLM protests.

Originally Posted by Mark B (Post 388109)

Really, you missed the video of unidentified Feds in Portland beating and gassing peaceful protestors?