The Foundation of Christianity
 

Assuming for the sake of his argument that there is a God, then from whence does the Christian religion derive?
It seems to me that the foundation is in the "original sin" committed by Adam at the behest of Eve and a snake, for without that "original sin" and thereby throwing the rest of humanity into a potentially sinful state, there would have been no need for a "Savior" to "redeem" humanity, and thus no Jesus Christ dying on the cross and no Christian religion.

To make sure, I did some Google research and this is what I found:
Death came into the world through Adam's sin (Romans 5:12-15).
Romans 5:19: For as through the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous.
Original sin, also called ancestral sin, is a Christian belief in a state of sin in which humanity has existed since the fall of man, stemming from Adam and Eve's rebellion in Eden, namely the sin of disobedience in consuming the forbidden fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

There's only one problem with that scenario: there was no Adam; no Garden of Eden; no Eve; no apple; no snake; etc etc etc. It is all a myth. The Homo genus evolved over literally millennia and basically came into its own in just the last half-million years or so, with the last 130,000 years or so being the most important. As a result, the Christian religion as presently practiced is based in the myth of Adam and "original sin"/
Whatever. It's a free country and people can believe whatever they want.

For that matter, the entire Book of Genesis should be properly labelled the Book of Myths. No creation in "seven days"; no worldwide flood; no ark saving all the animals of the realm; no man living inside a large fish; etc etc etc.

The origin of the stories that eventually made their way into the old testament go back at least to the Sumerians, and probably come from stories that predate written history.

https://www.ancient-origins.net/news...ian-texts-0065

So, Adam and Eve were the first Mythter and Mythess?
Low hanging fruit (maybe an apple).

:DGroan.

What a way to start the day!

Go play some music, JJ. Here's something: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AY3VAWZJ1T8

So Christianity is based on the teachings of Christ.
No other chapters in the "Bible" should matter to the Christians... But... sigh.. they do.
The other chapters for the most part are chapters from other books...or are very poorly plagiarized.

What's worse is how they twist their stories to get different narratives than the what is plainly obvious.

If you look at the story that Christians use to get out of paying for contraceptive medications you'll quickly realize that it's not about using contraceptives... It's about not being a hypocrite.. And hopefully that it's not alright to kill your son's and use the woman they were to marry as a prostitute.
But whatever right.

Thanks, DQ. I enjoyed that.

Cool, you are welcone!

Christ was crucified and ascended.

Believe it or not.

The Gospel had to be spread, and it's a good thing that it can still be received by anyone.

The Kingdom of God is within us, and among us, if only you believe in Christ.

It does not matter which person had the proper authority to carry the message.

The hierarchies established subsequent to the Apostle Paul are all highly suspect. They have all vied for social and political influence or control over people, even Kingdoms and Empires.

The abuses have been many.

If you want to accept Christ as your savior, you don't need to make an alter call at a particular church. IMHO, it's best that you don't. Christ said do not pray in public, were other people can see you putting on a show. Just believe it in your spiritual heart.

Christ was the fulfillment of the Old Testament, the end of all religion. Christianity is a misunderstanding of His teaching.

I find it uncomfortable to discuss my person beliefs with others. We may in the end only be describing with different words the same concepts.

Will say it is a belief of mine that financial gain over works was and still is a problem with religions. Then there is still my God is the ONLY real God, yours is the fake one. Then problem is everyone feels that way. More then a few lives have been lost due to the march of religions across the planet.

Is this because of the inner doubts to their beliefs. Questioning when confronted with another points of viewing the unknown. Causing the conflicts and then lashing out to eliminate any threat to their beliefs.
Or again financial gains.
Both in the end would be my guess.

Religion is demagoguery.

And the inputs of Insane pretty much prove that...…..

Jesus of Nazareth's message is very straightforward: We're all in this together so let's help each other out.

If God created the Universe, who created God?

Yes. Which was first the chicken or the egg?

The egg. A chicken is an egg's way of making another egg.

Making sense out of the senseless.....................


All guesses after all.

Those who know are not telling.

The chicken came first.

Genesis 1:25

Scientists have made it pretty clear.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang

Try again.

Where did the first chicken egg originate?

The chicken and egg are parts of a whole.

The Big Bang is a theory, not a law. :cool:

Religion?

Theory?

With FAR more evidence than the Adam & Eve myth, no? :rolleyes:

Bah Ha Ha.

Before empty space existed, there was absolutely nothing. Not even empty space.

What a stupid thing to believe.

Try again.

Theoretical evidence that is. :)

That’s not what scientists think: https://www.discovermagazine.com/the...e-the-big-bang

That's one scientist making up his own story.

I have a pet theory, too. A multi-verse consisting of seven hyperspaces.

True scientific data has only been around for what 150 years? So the scientists say the world has been around for a trillion years or more. That's based on carbon dating studied for a short period of time. Can we rely on that?

The age of the universe is thought to be around 13.7 billion years old. Age of Earth about 4.5 billion.

The domesticated chicken is of the gallus gallus (red junglefowl) species which is from gallus (junglefowl) genus, of Phasianidae (heavy ground living birds) family, of Galliformes (heavy ground feeding birds) order, of Aves (birds) class. All of these are egg-laying and some of them date back long before the gallus gallus species appeared. The egg undeniably came first because the biological function that is the egg existed long before even birds (Aves) did.

Data collection goes back much further than that.

Science is a sub-branch of philosophy, it's origin came about not long after recorded human history starts. It was suppressed by religious people for a long time.

Carbon dating is interesting. Perhaps God used old carbon to create the physical universe. The passage of time is a non-issue for creationists. The Bible says "one thousands years is like a day, and a day like one thousand years" from God's perspective. It says God create the world in seven days. That could have been seven thousand years. It does not say how long ago the world was created. People try to figure that out based on the genealogies of the bible. Many say 4000 years ago. Could have been 7000 years ago.

He tossed in some very old fish fossils, just to help the devil deceive people into believing bullshit like cross species evolution. He has to separate the wheat from the chaff somehow.

:)

Some scientists claim it's just a AI-style simulation, manifest by means we don't understand yet.

I like string theory. When the seventh string runs out, this hyperspace is going down.

That makes exactly as much sense as every other explanation of eternal damnation....

The things you do not understand, do not exist.

That quite a personal decree.

I have no such power. I don't know anyone that does.

But you believe, therefore things exist. Is that not just as awesome a power?

As I stated; I have no power to will things into existence.

I didn't believe in Christ until I met Socrate's daemons in person. The devil takes on human form, and he walks among us just like ordinary people.

https://biblehub.com/ephesians/6-12.htm

The existence of God was demonstrated to me via empirical observation.

Contact with super-natural beings.

And now you can laugh. I realize you won't believe me. It's not a delusion, or a privilege. It just is what it is.

Are you saying that the chicken and its egg are part of a whole? :)

:crazy

Plato nailed it in The Republic.

Lucifer is the harbinger of all enlightenment.

A fertilized egg containing the DNA of a chicken will become a chicken but an egg by itself is a building block of the animal kingdom.

Yeah..."good guy Lucifer" memes. Examples:
"Sees naked, willful thought-slave in the Garden of Eden; teaches critical thinking."
"Sees man starving in the desert; tries to offer him food for forty days."
"God wanted you to live your life in complete ignorance but I foiled His plan with a single conversation; you're welcome."
"Understands human nature; doesn't judge you for being human."
"Was kicked out of heaven by God; hasn't had countless millions slaughtered in his name."
"Gives sentient to humans; blamed for all evil in the world."
"Not a character in the Bible; still most interesting character in the Bible."
"Punishes evildoers in the afterlife; 'bad guy.'"
"Cloths; you're welcome."
"Could write book exposing God's atrocities; God beat him to it."