White Supremacist Ideas Have Historical Roots In U.S. Christianity
 

White Supremacist Ideas Have Historical Roots In U.S. Christianity

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/01/88311...s-christianity

"Christian" hate, primarily in the South. Sad, but it never goes away, as some are simply uneducable.

Sadly this makes alot of sense.
Most proclaimed "Christians" I know are not!

Hypocritical judgmental Being Closed-Minded, always right, only they know the secret to life, seem to me in general.

It goes back much further and is much more complicated than you realize.

Martin Luther, the father of the Protestant Reformation, laid the ground work for Himmler's Final Solution in the last book he wrote.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the...and_Their_Lies

IMHO, the world is ruled by Satan. God is going to to create a new world when this one is destroyed.

So what is going to change? Why should we expect the new creation to come out different?

It's all based on The Book of Revelation that was canonized into the Christian Bible.

The new creation is referred to (allegorically) as the New Jerusalem. The New Jerusalem is prophesied / promised to be ruled-over benevolently by Christ Jesus, rather than Satan. No strife or nastiness for it's entire duration.

Only a select few get resurrected directly to the New Jerusalem, all other saved souls have to await resurrection on the final judgement day, at which point they enter heaven.

The unsaved souls are resurrected, and discarded by the Creator into Gehenna, the rubbish burning pit for all eternity.

Why not have mankind fix these problems?
Rather then expecting or hoping a supreme all holy one will at the last minute.

Simple answer, just go on, leave it to someone else to solve.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evange..._United_States

The Barna Group reported that 8 percent of Americans in 2006 were born-again evangelicals

So, given that most of the rest of the world has never heard of or doesn't believe a word of this rubbish, over 99% of the world's population will be "discarded by the Creator, blah, blah, blah".

Such an ignorant, ugly, sanctimonious bunch you "born again" types are.

From the Wiki and very much on topic...

Christian Evangelists..."supported the abolition of slavery in addition to working towards education and criminal justice reform. In the southern United States, evangelicals split from their northern counterparts on the issue of slavery, establishing new denominations that did not call for abolition of slavery.[4] (For example, the Southern Baptist Convention was founded over the issue of slaveholders serving as foreign missionaries.)"

In the Antebellum, the only people objecting to black slavery on moral grounds were in that very small percentage of Christian evangelists. The Northern Industrialists / mammon mongers 'seized' the moral argument and used it as propaganda.

The spinning of the truth, and the outright lies continue to this day. On the surface, it may seem as if the BLM movement is being fomented for the advancement of 'persons of color'. IMHO, the under-lying motive is to foment social upheaval in general. Duping people into killing each other is what they want. Destruction and carnage are bonus in their eyes. 'They' being the minions of Satan.

So anti-slavery was just an argument of Northern propaganda? Talk about erasing history, you just erased the whole abolition movement.

Minions of Satan? Did you seriously say "Minions of Satan???"

Speaking of minions of Satan, what do you think of slavery?

I am a slave, held in bondage to Satan.

I just aware of it, whereas, most people are not.

Let's talk about the abolition movement.

John Brown, it's lead proponent, was a sociopathic murderer. He used morality as a cover while he killed children and families just because 'dad' was going to vote Pro-Slavery. I think he just liked to kill people, and to induce other people to kill each other.

"Rise Up (to be slaughtered)".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B..._Harpers_Ferry

Fredrick Douglas told him, "No man, you're crazy".

The 'Great Emancipator' was actually just an astute politician.

He didn't set out to free black people from slavery, that was more of a by-product than a root cause. His cause was to preserve the Union.

http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/...es/greeley.htm

Here's an interesting bit of trivia.

The Battle Hymn of the Republic was co-opted by an Abolitionist; it was originally a more secular marching song for Union Soldiers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle...f_the_Republic

Here's the original lyrics sung by Pete Seeger...

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...go%3dCT3210127

Howe dreamed that the Union Armaments represented the Glory of God; writ in burnished rows of steel.

The fact is, 85% of the Union Army was comprised of conscripted soldiers, men who were fighting because they had no choice in the matter. It was go to war, or be imprisoned, or killed. That in itself is a form of human slavery.

Here's my rebuttal... I subscribe to the Lost Cause Mythos.

I've been brain washed by misinformation...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EOhXF5lNgQ

You elevate John Brown to 'lead proponent' just to have 'sociopathinc murderer' mud to throw at the whole movement. Fredrick Douglas was right, of course, but about John Brown, not about the general class of abolition campaigners. They were willing to wave John Brown's bloody shirt, but were not about to personally do any actual fighting. Hiding slaves who made it across the Ohio was about as wild as they were going to get.

And I still worry that to think abolitionists all craxy is to think slavery sane.

But let's talk about your first statement. How do you know you are "a slave, in bondage to Satan?" The statement frankly seems to me to put you in the same class as John Brown.

Sorry, won't watch half an hour of lost cause special pleading. The main claim of the whole 'lost cause' mythos is that the war was not over slavery. Which is false. It's like this: the North mainly fought to subdue the 'rebelluon' of the seceeding states. But those states seceded over slavery, first and foremost.

One can use the argument of, not being about slavery. Now it should seem a very poor one used to justify or even deflect from fact.
Just is, the actions by the very ones who fought and supported the war against the US after surrender. Their actions against former slaves continued and still continues by those who followed by indoctrination with the belief of a "lost cause"!
Now to have spread into the mainstream across the nation. Showing to many that it was and is race as the corner stone of their beliefs.

Yep. And the south wasn't fighting because of slavery. It was just the particular "state's right" that Lincoln glommed onto to get enough support to actually win that war. People don't fully grasp just how bad the Union was doing before Gettysburg. Had Lee gotten around little round top, this could be a very different couple of nations today. And not in the good way.

I could literally imagine north America split up like Europe.

Most countries were peopled by a particular race back then. The US was fairly unique with its melting pot concept. Being an [insert race] supremist was what pretty much everyone was, if only as a part of their nationalism to keep their country strong in what was an international "anarchy" where no country was the "world's police force". You had to remain strong or your neighbor would attack and try to take your land and stuff. It's just the way the world was.

The US changed all that.

The video is not "Lost Cause pleading".

I think it represents your POV quite well.

I just watched it. I think you are absolutely right.

I even learned a few things watching it.

Well you fooled me. You said it was your rebuttal, and you said you were a lost causer.

Now we see the who else likes the uniparty label.

In their view, anyone who opposes authoritarianism here or abroad is a member of the Uniparty. It's an "Us vs Them" dynamic of democracy vs authoritarianism. Indeed, the most common defining trait of Trump supporters is support for authoritarianism.