Our Police State
 

Buffalo police officers plead not guilty to assaulting 75-year-old man at demonstration

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/06/us/bu...man/index.html

Multiple videos clearly show that they assaulted the man, yet they are protected by FAR too many rules. This needs to change. Cops in this country need to be held accountable for their actions, just as you and I are (unless we're wealthy and white).

How to reform American police, according to experts

https://www.vox.com/2020/6/1/2127701...m-george-floyd

Miles Davis, beaten by a cop for helping a white woman into a cab outside of Birdland, where he had just performed for a Voice of America broadcast. Nothing has changed since then.

https://scontent.fmcc1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...d9&oe=5F02786A

This movement is not anarchy. It could push America to be a better nation.
By Editorial Board

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...482_story.html

This will be a clue as where the country is heading.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-Kt...A#action=share

https://abcnews.go.com/US/buffalo-po...ry?id=71106787

Mr. Gugino, 75, could easily be my 89 year old friend who fought in Korea as a navigator in a B-24, Bronze Star. A frail elder who is flat out disgusted with the traitorous antics of 'Deadbeat' Donnie and his gang of criminals and isn't shy about telling anyone about it. He would be a blast to hit the streets with if it weren't for this pandemic that the coward in chief screwed the pooch on.

I miss shooting the breeze with my old friend. He's just been diagnosed with liver cancer and it's spread to his pancreas. He's very hard of hearing so standing at a safe distance and trying to converse doesn't work. I wonder if we will ever get together again for a meal and a beer. I sure hope so.

At this point in time anyone who still supports T'Rumpf must have rocks in their head or worse. It's going to be a pleasure voting these scumbags out of office this November. I just hope that my friend is still above ground to cast his vote. I think I'll get him one of those Cup o' Joe coffee mugs. He'd like that.

Protests about police brutality are met with wave of police brutality across US
Use of teargas, batons, pepper spray, fists, feet and vehicles against protesters sparks lawsuits and international condemnation

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-george-floyd

The police have gotten very bad.

Been reading and hearing statements locally in the vain of, "if you are doing nothing wrong or illegal, have nothing to fear from the police!"

What country are they from?

There is a fine edge the officers are on everyday. They see a side of society most only experience from afar. This must effect a seeing life in general. Harden the approach taken when confronting the unknown. No one wants any officer to be hurt in the line of duty.

So what is the answers?
Better training for one and all. Body cams. Independent citizen oversight and controls. Neighborhood outreach programs. Education and funding for non lethal forms of policing.

Being smarter not harder.

No honor at all in these men. I might have a scintilla of respect for these men if they admitted what they did and accepted their punishment. Trying to roll the dice on a verdict, banking on a jury of their peers refusing to convict them they are going to use the judicial system in a manner they criticize of letting the guilty go free. Then there is the issue of their "supporters" that showed up and cheered their not guilty plea. Zero respect for them either.

The kicker about the Buffalo cops that pushed the 75 year old that resulted in his fall to the ground is that he was trying to return a helmet to the riot gear garbed police.

If you’re surprised by how the police are acting, you don’t understand US history

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...nce-oppression

SO WHAT ???

I saw the film too... one cop made a mistake and pushed the old man a little too hard.

I am age 79 and I have a bit of a problem in the balance department - assuming the old fellow does too and he does not look to have been pushed all that hard...

While the old fellow has a constitutional right to assemble etc. At his age should also have the common sense to take into account the age related hazards of the contact sport of getting into a riot/demonstration crowd.

In short - he was a dumb ass to get into that type of crowd in the first place as he would have been to be playing football.

Standing up for your First Amendment rights isn't a sport, asshole. Sheesh. What if someone pushed you at one of your KKK rallies? You'd be crying for "justice".

I say assault is always big mistake by anyone. When it is by PD no passes or excuses should be tolerated. They acted with indifference total disregard for another human.

For from the least of them to the greatest,
all are greedy for gain;
from prophet to priest,
all practice deceit.
They dress the wound of My people
with very little care,
saying, ‘Peace, peace,’
when there is no peace at all.
Are they ashamed of the abomination they have committed?
No, they have no shame at all;
—Jeremiah 6


Nothing ever changes.

Not just George Floyd: Police departments have 400-year history of anti-black racism

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...sm/3128167001/

Minneapolis City Council members intend to defund and dismantle the city's police department

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/07/us/ge...day/index.html

Wow! A veto-proof majority, too.

After nights of violence in Minneapolis, locals take up arms to defend their community

https://youtu.be/ovtLTPrB2MA

Exactly the opposite of the racist posts here and on AK, this is blacks protecting their community from burning and looting by white supremacists trying to start a race war.

Note that there are a LOT of blacks who were trained in weaponry in the Army, not just white supremacists. They also know how to use AK-47s. Cowardly little nazis won't stand a chance in these neighborhoods.

This is the point where Trump wants to send in the Army. Just need to engineer a gunfight with the 'insurrectionists.'

Floyd killing shows police unions abuse power. We need radical reform: Former union lawyer
Unions have used collective bargaining to protect police from accountability for racist killing. Such killings are more likely and frequent as a result.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/3168157001/

Is that your final answer? :D

Are you a child? :confused:

Two things: 1. Trump is trying hard to avoid it. 2. I think it is the handlers of the rioters that are desperately trying to get Trump to do just that.

BTW, if they are successful at removing police, these things will escelate in minutes. Ultimately, without police, the president will have no choice but to call in the military, as previous presidents have done when an area is completely out of control.

BTW, I have a friend that hates the police and has had some run ins with them. He's been physically abused by police, which is why he is not on their side with this one. However, that was at a time in his life where he was a real hell raiser. But here is the problem: He's lilly white.

This is not about race. It's about police and how they, in frustration, find themselves dealing with people they are attempting to arrest. It is not about race any more than the fact that there are more men in prison than women is about sex.

I believe in effective civilian oversight and accountability for standardized strictly enforced standards and practices.
Law enforcement should be a profession, not a fraternity.

Protests spread over police shootings. Police promised reforms. Every year, they still shoot and kill nearly 1,000 people.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...82b_story.html

To protect (white people) and serve (rich white people).

There is a move on to de-fund, with a side of de-militarizing, police departments that get a disproportional amount of a municipality's funds. Of course the Mango Mussolini is going to use that to sow further division. He will vigorously attempt to tied de-funding with disbanding. Saying "they" want no policing so "they" can run wild in the streets attacking law abiding white folk. "They" being Blacks, Hispanics, illegals, ANTIFA and every other boogie-man the right has been using to scare people with. I would not be surprised to see one of the idjits on Faux News to accuse the BLM movement of being at the root of it. Should this concept get floated it will go right into tRumps limited thought process. Orange Blob has already tried to tie the de-fund movement to Joe Biden who has already said he's not in favor of defunding. Since the Mango Jeezus has uttered it and of course Faux News will repeat it the tRumplings will regard it as the holy gospel and refuse to believe anything else.

FOP should be the target for shielding the bad actors.

I'm 66. How about you?

On that we strongly agree. However, in our current culture I actually have very little respect for anyone that would aspire to be a police officer. I see them as either thugs or hopelessly naive. Or it's the only job they can find that pays very well.

People think I support what the cops did to George. I don't. My problem is that I actually see NO good guys in this case. And the key point for me is that the protesters are being absurdly reckless, going off half cocked on partial information. I know they "have their reasons", but EVERYONE has their reasons for acting badly. Ask any guy with a bad temper that, after the fact, justifies his "blowing off steam" by punching his wife for burning dinner. That's how I see the protesters.

The wheels of justice were moving without the protests. But it is possible that the protests gave us another Zimmerman/Martin case. That is, if they result in over charging, these cops could go free. And if they were obeying their department's policy and the autopsy shows the cause of death was something other than the knee to neck, well, these cops are gonna walk.

That is worth pondering.

Martin was complicit in his own demise, but Zimmerman instigated and escalated the confrontation, and as the "adult" in the matter, should have acted responsibly. I see him as the only guilty party because of that.

What the city where defunding police worked really tells us about it

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/camde...105251107.html

IBM scraps facial recognition tool in wake of Black Lives Matter protests

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ibm-s...090156854.html

I own a good number of IBM shares. They pay a good dividend in retirement. Glad they're taking this stance.

I'm not comfortable arguing the details of the Martin/Zimmerman thing, but I'll throw out this generic perspective: The law is quite aware that just because someone's 18th birth day is the day after the crime, doesn't mean they see the person, when they committed the crime, as a "child". i.e. if Zimmerman had been 11 years old, I'd agree with you.

Martin certainly wasn't a child in many respect, but Zimmerman was the more life-experienced and assumed mature elder with the judgement and impulse control that entails. He had the adult duty to disengage before needlessly inciting Martins aggressive defence.
Martin should not have responded aggressively, but he was not the adult in the confrontation.

Absolutely. But that would be true if Martin was 18. Neither one of them was very old. For me, it is an irrelevance. It's about what someone "should have done", but there is always that aspect whenever something like this happens. Unfortunately, they don't get the luxury of hindsight like we do. They were both two young adults (I consider under 30 to be a young adult) making stupid decisions, which is what young adults actually spend a lot of time doing.

Why Twitter (probably) won’t do anything about Der Fuehrer's conspiratorial Buffalo protester tweet

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-t...180441285.html

Dorsey's a coward, just like Donny. Donny should have been shut down by Twitter long ago.

I live in the US. In my country there is freedom of speech. It is not limitless, but it virtually is. It's why people can call for the assassination of Trump and not go to prison. I like that people are given free speech, including the president. Sometimes they bring important ideas to the table that you may not have considered. And other times they expose what a nincompoop they are. Both have value.

No, Twitter is not violating Der Fuehrer's freedom of speech

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...reedom-speech/

For those ignorant enough to believe this is a "freedom of speech" issue.

California legislative leaders back state 'sleeper hold' ban

https://www.kcra.com/article/califor...d-ban/32804706

You are smart enough to know that constitutional freedom of speech means the government cannot censor you. It has nothing to do with whether a private message service can censor you. For the private entity, controlling their content is an aspect of their own freedom of speech, or of the press.

Posts like this are why I question your sincerity.

Minneapolis police slashed tires of cars parked near George Floyd protests

https://nypost.com/2020/06/09/police...olis-protests/