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Chicks 03-24-2020 04:24 PM

Israel on brink of constitutional crisis
 
Israel on brink of constitutional crisis as parliament speaker blocks vote that could replace him

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...b51_story.html

You can bet Moscow Mitch is watching this one very closely.

finnbow 03-26-2020 07:13 AM

Conservatives the world around have taken on an authoritarian air, it seems.

Oerets 03-26-2020 08:03 AM

All across the world the rise of authoritarianism over democracies and republics seem to be the norm.

donquixote99 03-26-2020 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 382383)
Israel on brink of constitutional crisis as parliament speaker blocks vote that could replace him

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...b51_story.html

You can bet Moscow Mitch is watching this one very closely.

Saw a report that the Israeli Speaker resigned.

Chicks 03-26-2020 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 382408)
Saw a report that the Israeli Speaker resigned.

Yes, saw that - he gavelled the session closed, then resigned without allowing a vote on his replacement. :mad:

finnbow 03-27-2020 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 382409)
Yes, saw that - he gavelled the session closed, then resigned without allowing a vote on his replacement. :mad:

And now Benny Gantz (Bibi's primary opponent in the election) has now been named Speaker of the House in a quasi unity government with Bibi. Crazy shit.

FWIW, our oldest son lives and works in Israel managing the country's construction program that is financed by the USA under the Foreign Military Sales program. He's the Resident Engineer for the northern half of the country. His work has been very complicated lately due to coronavirus and conflicting guidance/priorities of the Israeli Ministries of Defense and Health, State, DoD and his agency headquarters in Wiesbaden, Germany. Fun times in the land of milk and honey.

BigElCat 03-27-2020 08:09 AM

I recently read this book; it's sort of at a tangent to the topic, but finnbow might like it.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/revie...at-means-world

It's about how they 'duped' the USA, or did they ?

finnbow 03-27-2020 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BigElCat (Post 382422)
I recently read this book; it's sort of at a tangent to the topic, but finnbow might like it.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/revie...at-means-world

It's about how they 'duped' the USA, or did they ?

I tend to think we chose to look the other way.

Not Insane 06-05-2020 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 382406)
Conservatives the world around have taken on an authoritarian air, it seems.

The battle going on globally is not conservatives vs liberals.

It's globalists vs nationalists. That is what's behind Brexit.

donquixote99 06-05-2020 01:58 PM

Wingnuts do love their word magic. A dead skunk by any other name would smell as.....

Pio1980 06-05-2020 02:21 PM

The Nationalists are mostly authoritarian tyrants, we know where that got us when this was the going-around thing in the latter 1930s.

Chicks 05-30-2021 11:39 AM

Netanyahu may face imminent end to long run as Israel's leader

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle...ma-2021-05-30/

Nuttin' Yahoo is also facing corruption charges. Will this Little Donny FINALLY face justice, and be booted out of office, as well?

bobabode 05-30-2021 12:37 PM

Looks like BiBi is finally being retired.

"JERUSALEM — A diverse coalition of Israeli opposition parties said Sunday that they have the votes to form a unity government to unseat Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel’s longest-serving leader and its dominant political figure for more than a decade.

Under their agreement, reached after weeks of negotiations spearheaded by centrist opposition leader Yair Lapid, former Netanyahu defense minister and ally Naftali Bennett will lead a power-sharing government. WP

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...c48_story.html

BlueStreak 05-30-2021 01:15 PM

More right wing nonsense, just in another country. The irony of those who've long suffered under tyranny becoming the tyrants is staggering. Religion is such bullshit.

finnbow 05-30-2021 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 400598)
Looks like BiBi is finally being retired.

"JERUSALEM — A diverse coalition of Israeli opposition parties said Sunday that they have the votes to form a unity government to unseat Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel’s longest-serving leader and its dominant political figure for more than a decade.

Under their agreement, reached after weeks of negotiations spearheaded by centrist opposition leader Yair Lapid, former Netanyahu defense minister and ally Naftali Bennett will lead a power-sharing government. WP

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...c48_story.html

Lapid is a decent fellow, mostly a Centrist. Bennett, however, is further to the Right than Bibi was. I guess the only thing they could agree upon was that Bibi was an insufferable asshole in the Trump mold. I don't trust Bennett as far as I could throw him.

Chicks 03-26-2023 05:43 PM

Netanyahu fires defense minister who urged a halt to overhaul of Israel's judiciary

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/26/11661...r-yoav-gallant

Authoritarians are really, really hard to get rid of. Now he's overhauling the judiciary to make it even harder. Yet some on this forum just love authoritarians in this country. :rolleyes:

Chicks 03-27-2023 11:20 AM

Netanyahu agrees to pause judicial overhaul following widespread unrest in Israel
The proposal by Netanyahu’s hard-right coalition in January would threaten the independence of the Supreme Court and limit judges’ powers, according to critics.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/n...ests-rcna76759

Conservatives love chaos. It keeps them in power. :mad:

donquixote99 03-27-2023 11:22 AM

A small coalition member said they would pull support if he paused. Bluff called, or well they do it? It would topple the government....

Chicks 03-28-2023 11:16 AM

Why Netanyahu paused the march of tyranny and nobody who loves Israel can rejoice yet
Had he not fired Gallant, the PM would right now be enacting his key autocratic edict. His overreach merely compelled a timeout, unless Herzog can somehow find a path to salvation
https://www.timesofisrael.com/why-ne...n-rejoice-yet/

Nasty, totalitarian "conservatives". Whell's World. :mad:

donquixote99 03-28-2023 11:42 AM

All justified because, well, the Arabs are the enemy.

Human 03-28-2023 12:32 PM

I have a friend who just spent a month in Israel. She said the situation on the ground in Tel Aviv was actually worse than what was being reported in the US, and that was a week *before* the proposed changes to weaken the judiciary.

Chicks 01-01-2024 12:14 PM

Israeli Supreme Court strikes down Bibi's controversial judicial overhaul law
https://www.axios.com/2024/01/01/isr...netanyahu-gaza

Rajoo 01-01-2024 01:29 PM

Is Israel's Supreme Court selected by the President?
Is Knesset involved in the selection process?

BigElCat 01-04-2024 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 426885)
Is Israel's Supreme Court selected by the President?
Is Knesset involved in the selection process?

The building was donated to Israel by the Jewish philanthropist Dorothy de Rothschild.

Not that that answers your question, it's just all I know about their Supreme Court.

How y'all doing ?

donquixote99 01-04-2024 10:56 PM

Doing OK, Big Cat, all things considered. And I predict Dorothy's nice building will be blown up one day. It will be a shame, but what goes around comes around.
https://youtu.be/vf3yW_yrxHE

BigElCat 01-06-2024 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 426955)
Doing OK, Big Cat, all things considered. And I predict Dorothy's nice building will be blown up one day. It will be a shame, but what goes around comes around.
https://youtu.be/vf3yW_yrxHE

Both my parents died in 2023.

I get the Taj Masmall; it's like a wildlife reserve. Pics coming in a different thread later.

This on topic because it involves the IMF, the World Bank, money and Israel.

Maybe I'm straying. Help with the segue please.

BigElCat 01-06-2024 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 426955)
Doing OK, Big Cat, all things considered. And I predict Dorothy's nice building will be blown up one day. It will be a shame, but what goes around comes around.
https://youtu.be/vf3yW_yrxHE

According to what I believe, the final battle on this world will be fought very near there, most likely Syria. (Armageddon).

That will be at least 50 years from now, if not more.

donquixote99 01-06-2024 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigElCat (Post 427023)
Both my parents died in 2023.

I get the Taj Masmall; it's like a wildlife reserve. Pics coming in a different thread later.

This on topic because it involves the IMF, the World Bank, money and Israel.

Maybe I'm straying. Help with the segue please.

Every condolence on the passing of your parents, Cat. Mine went within 3 months of each other, in the year when it happened.

bobabode 01-06-2024 09:24 PM

Condolences Don and El Grande Gato. It's tough when they go.

Dad's been gone twenty years or so while mom is still kicking it up in Pasadena. We did sell her car and cancelled her driver's license. I can neither confirm nor deny that the 'Little Old Lady From Pasadena was about my 97 years young mom. I used to joke that she parked by Braille.

BigElCat 01-06-2024 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 427026)
Condolences Don and El Grande Gato. It's tough when they go.

Dad's been gone twenty years or so while mom is still kicking it up in Pasadena. We did sell her car and cancelled her driver's license. I can neither confirm nor deny that the 'Little Old Lady From Pasadena was about my 97 years young mom. I used to joke that she parked by Braille.

LOL

I was sitting in my local café, admiring my beautiful SC300 Lexus right outside the window. An elderly man with dementia pulled in next to it, planted the door of his car square in the center of my door. Got out using his door to support his weight and put a gouge in my door. Big old J mark as he took his body weight off. My Dad was dying from dementia at the time.

All I did was go the entryway and open the door to let him in the cafe.


Another time, Bob Nash, age 92, drove his car through a support column on the cafe's porch. That's on topic, because Bob Nash is famous for being a USA soldier who fought the Commie Chinese in China after WW2. I'll find the Wiki story. It's amazing...50mm motar guy saved their lives.

From WIKI...Anping Road

Five days later, on July 29, 1946, a routine motor patrol (made up from B Battery, 11th Marines and a mortar squad from the 5th Marine Regiment), consisting of one lieutenant and forty enlisted men, was ambushed near the village of Anping. The ensuing battle lasted four hours. A relief column with air support from Tianjin attempted to trap and destroy the Communists, but it failed to arrive in time. Three Marines (Lt. Douglas Cowin, Cpl Gilbert Tate, and PFC Larry Punch) were killed and twelve others were wounded during what was, up to that point, the most serious clash between American and Chinese forces. One other Marine, PFC John Lopez, later died of wounds received in the battle, and two more were injured when they crashed their Jeep while returning to Tianjin for aid. According to Shaw, "the deliberate Communist ambush was additional proof that the chances for peace in China were nonexistent. Without regard to their truce agreements, both sides initiated hostilities wherever the military situation seemed to favor them, and 'each side took the stand with General Marshall that the other was provoking the fighting and could not be trusted to go through with an agreement.'

Bob Nash was the radio man, hid under his truck, did not engage in combat. He told me the name of the hero guy...can't remember it now. He was their top motar guy, and all the other motar guys kept tossing him their rounds. He just kept firing, and kept the Commies out of rifle range.

Pio1980 01-06-2024 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 427026)
Condolences Don and El Grande Gato. It's tough when they go.

Dad's been gone twenty years or so while mom is still kicking it up in Pasadena. We did sell her car and cancelled her driver's license. I can neither confirm nor deny that the 'Little Old Lady From Pasadena was about my 97 years young mom. I used to joke that she parked by Braille.

I remember a 1931 Auburn 3-window coupe parked in an open garage that looked like it had been literally whitewashed with a mop, having wilted fenders indicating being often Braille parked. Interior was immaculate.

BigElCat 01-08-2024 11:28 AM

Did I say 50 years ?

It's more like 5 years until Jesus comes back (look busy) :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rshMZ16QnKI

BigElCat 01-23-2024 08:01 PM

Naom Chomsky breaks it down for us.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rfqb1F_5RL0

BigElCat 02-08-2024 01:47 AM

And I'm all in (read my retort to Naom Chomsky in the comments).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmOBsYbxPCY

donquixote99 02-08-2024 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BigElCat (Post 427771)
And I'm all in (read my retort to Naom Chomsky in the comments).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmOBsYbxPCY

Is there some way to find your particular comment among 4475 on YouTube? Maybe it would be a better idea for you to repeat your point here.

BigElCat 02-08-2024 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 427772)
Is there some way to find your particular comment among 4475 on YouTube? Maybe it would be a better idea for you to repeat your point here.

Very interesting.

My 'retort' is on top of the list even still (when I view it).


@BigElCat
17 hours ago
Mr. Chomsky states that even if the Biblical Moses is not real; the cultural Moses gives rise to the Ashkenazi Jewish identity. He states that the Middle East crisis should not even exist, because it makes no logical sense. It exists. It's happening by design, we have proof of this. I believe the spiritual vision given to John of Patmos (Christian Bible) Book of Revelation 2:8-9 and 3:7-9. I think IT was Divinely inspired. It's my cultural belief, and the on-going Middle East crises affirms that it is real.

End quote. See if you can even find it, let me know.

donquixote99 02-08-2024 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BigElCat (Post 427776)
Very interesting.

My 'retort' is on top of the list even still (when I view it).


@BigElCat
17 hours ago
Mr. Chomsky states that even if the Biblical Moses is not real; the cultural Moses gives rise to the Ashkenazi Jewish identity. He states that the Middle East crisis should not even exist, because it makes no logical sense. It exists. It's happening by design, we have proof of this. I believe the spiritual vision given to John of Patmos (Christian Bible) Book of Revelation 2:8-9 and 3:7-9. I think IT was Divinely inspired. It's my cultural belief, and the on-going Middle East crises affirms that it is real.

End quote. See if you can even find it, let me know.

OK. Figured out you have to hit the sort button, and tell it 'newest first.' DOH. You are 3rd message down at this instant. The default sort is 'Top Messages,' whatever that means, and the one that comes first that way is 3 months old.

I explain the definitely existing Middle East crisis in human terms, not biblical. Chomsky is dreaming if he thinks more than a trivial amount of what humans do is logical. But pointing out to people that their behavior is illogical sometimes gets them to think about changing it. Not generally, but sometimes.

BigElCat 02-09-2024 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 427778)
OK. Figured out you have to hit the sort button, and tell it 'newest first.' DOH. You are 3rd message down at this instant. The default sort is 'Top Messages,' whatever that means, and the one that comes first that way is 3 months old.

I explain the definitely existing Middle East crisis in human terms, not biblical. Chomsky is dreaming if he thinks more than a trivial amount of what humans do is logical. But pointing out to people that their behavior is illogical sometimes gets them to think about changing it. Not generally, but sometimes.

Thanks for the feedback.

I'm expecting reprisals for speaking contrary to the ADLU, as well as, expressing my Magog / Judah switch theory on You Tube.

Keep in mind that YouTube and Goggle are 'alleged' to be operated by CIA money.

The ADLU attack on the universities was really annoying, straight out of the Marxist playbook. Total witch hunt.

donquixote99 02-09-2024 08:21 PM

Agree about the ADLU. Not so sure about the CIA.

donquixote99 02-09-2024 08:24 PM

To add nuance: don't think the ADLU is Marxist. I think that's best called an analogy to describe amoral machievelian tactics.


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