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Zeke 06-14-2018 01:47 PM

Clinton email report: No FBI bias.
 
Comey did act in a procedurally flawed manner.

1. There was no reason to bring charges regarding emails.
2. Trump's claim of a cabal is openly and independently refuted.

Screw Trump. :mad:

Chicks 06-14-2018 02:27 PM

Not to worry, Fox “News” and Limblow will find plenty of “deep state” ammo here to feed to their idiots, like our resident fool Whell.

bobabode 06-14-2018 02:30 PM

Buh - but BENGHAAAAAAAAZI!!!! :rolleyes:

p.s. Good to see you Zeke.

finnbow 06-14-2018 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 372373)
Not to worry, Fox “News” and Limblow will find plenty of “deep state” ammo here to feed to their idiots, like our resident fool Whell.

I listened to LimpBalls on the way back from the gym today. He was lamenting the IG's findings.

whell 06-14-2018 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 372369)
Comey did act in a procedurally flawed manner.

1. There was no reason to bring charges regarding emails.
2. Trump's claim of a cabal is openly and independently refuted.

Screw Trump. :mad:

Well, another way to look at it would be "Screw Hillary" (as distasteful as that thought might be). The Hillary crowd blamed Comey for helping her lose the election. The IG report kicks the legs out from under that argument.

finnbow 06-14-2018 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 372377)
Well, another way to look at it would be "Screw Hillary" (as distasteful as that thought might be). The Hillary crowd blamed Comey for helping her lose the election. The IG report kicks the legs out from under that argument.

Where? Direct quotes from the report, please.

whell 06-14-2018 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 372373)
Not to worry, Fox “News” and Limblow will find plenty of “deep state” ammo here to feed to their idiots, like our resident fool Whell.

You just can't stop thinking about little ol' me, can ya? I must really frost your cookies, Chicklet. So glad for that. :)

whell 06-14-2018 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 372378)
Where? Direct quotes from the report, please.

Right in front of your myopic nose, Finny:

"While we did not find that these decisions were the result of political bias on Comey's part, we nevertheless concluded that by departing so clearly and dramatically from FBI and department norms, the decisions negatively impacted the perception of the FBI and the department as fair administrators of justice," Inspector General Michael Horowitz wrote in the report.

Hillary's campaign claims that these "departures" cost her the election, and blamed Comey personally. So, we now find out that Comey's actions were not politically motivated.

Screw Hillary.

finnbow 06-14-2018 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 372380)
Right in front of your myopic nose, Finny:

"While we did not find that these decisions were the result of political bias on Comey's part, we nevertheless concluded that by departing so clearly and dramatically from FBI and department norms, the decisions negatively impacted the perception of the FBI and the department as fair administrators of justice," Inspector General Michael Horowitz wrote in the report.

Hillary's campaign claims that these "departures" cost her the election, and blamed Comey personally. So, we now find out that Comey's actions were not politically motivated.

Screw Hillary.

Where exactly does this dispel the notion that Comey's actions hurt Hillary? Comey's actions could have hurt Hillary's election chances without being politically motivated. In fact, I think most objective observers would say that this is exactly what happened. His actions vis-a-vis Hillary certainly didn't hurt Trump (as revealing that he was being investigated for colluding with Russia would have, BTW).

whell 06-14-2018 03:15 PM

By the way, I think that the IG report, on the point that there was no political bias, comes up a bit short. This Politico article got it right.

whell 06-14-2018 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 372381)
Where exactly does this dispel the notion that Comey's actions hurt Hillary? Comey's actions could have hurt Hillary's election chances without being politically motivated. In fact, I think most objective observers would say that this is exactly what happened. His actions vis-a-vis Hillary certainly didn't hurt Trump (as revealing that he was being investigated for colluding with Russia would have, BTW).

Your arguing a case I'm not making. The IG's report said Comey's actions were not "politically motivated". Hillary said they were. As noted above, I think the notion that Comey's actions were apolitical is horseshit of the highest caliber. OF COURSE Comey behaved like a political animal inside the Washington DC zoo. The press conference announcing the findings of the email investigation was PURELY a political exercise, and Hillary's campaign was correct to say that it was (probably the only thing her campaign got right). For the IG to say Comey's actions were not politically motivated is laughable.

But the IG says they weren't. So....Screw Hillary.

finnbow 06-14-2018 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 372382)
By the way, I think that the IG report, on the point that there was no political bias, comes up a bit short. This Politico article got it right.

Au contraire, dumb ass. An IG with all the needed evidence, sworn testimony and expertise writes a comprehensive 568-page report after months and months of work, yet you prefer the piece of a guy who has none of the above, yet you go with his magazine article. Typical Trumpster - not letting the facts get in the way of his Dear Leader's preferred narrative.

whell 06-14-2018 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 372384)
Au contraire, dumb ass. An IG with all the needed evidence, sworn testimony and expertise writes a comprehensive 568-page report after months and months of work, yet you prefer the piece of a guy who has none of the above, yet you go with his magazine article. Typical Trumpster - not letting the facts get in the way of his Dear Leader's preferred narrative.

Au contraire, pissat. The knife cuts both ways. If the IG's report concluded no political bias, how could that same report also state that "...other senior bureau officials showed a “willingness to take official action” to prevent Donald Trump from becoming president"?

The inspector general found “no evidence that the conclusions by department prosecutors were affected by bias or other improper considerations.”

Sorry, but that's just really hard to believe.

whell 06-14-2018 03:34 PM

Oh, and by the way pissant, form the same WaPo article I posted:

To Clinton and her supporters, who have long argued that Comey’s decisions robbed her of an election victory, the report will likely be received as bitter vindication of her claims the FBI Director veered far beyond official policy in speaking publicly about her case, and reopening it in the final days before the election.


Screw Hillary, 'cuz it wasn't political.

bobabode 06-14-2018 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 372373)
Not to worry, Fox “News” and Limblow will find plenty of “deep state” ammo here to feed to their idiots, like our resident fool Whell.

Seems like you've got Whell's number down pat. He's tap dancing on the head of a pin over the news. ;)

bobabode 06-14-2018 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 372387)
Oh, and by the way pissant, form the same WaPo article I posted:

To Clinton and her supporters, who have long argued that Comey’s decisions robbed her of an election victory, the report will likely be received as bitter vindication of her claims the FBI Director veered far beyond official policy in speaking publicly about her case, and reopening it in the final days before the election.


Screw Hillary, 'cuz it wasn't political.

Poor Whell, Hillary is living in that empty brainpan of yours, rent free. :p

bobabode 06-14-2018 03:59 PM

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So the #IGREPORT proves what?

1. The FBI was right to decide not to charge Hillary with a crime.
2. That decision wasn't motivated by political bias or improper considerations.
3. James Comey made mistakes.
4. Those mistakes helped Trump win.

Sounds like Hillary got screwed.
12:37 PM - 14 Jun 2018

bobabode 06-14-2018 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 372377)
Well, another way to look at it would be "Screw Hillary" (as distasteful as that thought might be). The Hillary crowd blamed Comey for helping her lose the election. The IG report kicks the legs out from under that argument.

Dude..Ease up on the Trump-Ade. Try a Snickers bar.

Chicks 06-14-2018 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 372379)
You just can't stop thinking about little ol' me, can ya? I must really frost your cookies, Chicklet. So glad for that. :)

Naw, once again, you’re simply a convenient proxy for all the other ignorant, bigoted, intolerant dumbass Trumpies. Always good for a belly laugh! :D

finnbow 06-14-2018 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 372387)
Oh, and by the way pissant, form the same WaPo article I posted:

To Clinton and her supporters, who have long argued that Comey’s decisions robbed her of an election victory, the report will likely be received as bitter vindication of her claims the FBI Director veered far beyond official policy in speaking publicly about her case, and reopening it in the final days before the election.


Screw Hillary, 'cuz it wasn't political.

It seems you can't read too well. The article is saying that the report vindicated the Hillarybots, dumb ass.

bobabode 06-14-2018 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 372382)
By the way, I think that the IG report, on the point that there was no political bias, comes up a bit short. This Politico article got it right.

Of course, what Comey did was political, how could it be otherwise? Maybe you should take up yogic breathing or something because you're making less and less sense as time goes on, Mike.

bobabode 06-14-2018 05:52 PM

For the win... ;)

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But my emails.
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IG found that on numerous occasions, COMEY used a personal GMail account to conduct official FBI business, according to source briefed on the report.
2:36 PM - Jun 14, 2018

Dondilion 06-15-2018 06:16 AM

Basically Comey does not inspire confidence.

Hillary was screwed at a critical time.

whell 06-15-2018 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 372395)
It seems you can't read too well. The article is saying that the report vindicated the Hillarybots, dumb ass.

That's exactly what it says, pissant. It also says that it wasn't political.

Screw Hillary

whell 06-15-2018 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 372396)
Of course, what Comey did was political, how could it be otherwise? Maybe you should take up yogic breathing or something because you're making less and less sense as time goes on, Mike.

Ok, so we agree. It was political.

So what does that say about the conclusions of the IG report that there was no "political bias" in the investigative process or conclusions?

Oh, and if you read the IG report, you'll find out that the FBI is instituting "political bias training". If there was no political bias, then why institute training designed to eradicate it?

finnbow 06-15-2018 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 372408)
Ok, so we agree. It was political.

So what does that say about the conclusions of the IG report that there was no "political bias" in the investigative process or conclusions?

Oh, and if you read the IG report, you'll find out that the FBI is instituting "political bias training". If there was no political bias, then why institute training designed to eradicate it?

Apparently, you didn't read the report. It said that Strzok and Page apparently had political bias, but they also said that this bias had no discernible impact upon any investigations.

That said, I'm not sure I agree that enmity toward Trump shows political bias. It shows disgust with a profoundly dishonest, narcissistic, unethical and vile white nationalist. For example, the views of McCain, Corker, Flake, Sasse, Collins, Jennifer Rubin, and Bill Kristol are attributable to disgust with Trump the person and not Trump's politics, per se.

Dondilion 06-15-2018 07:48 AM

Hard to separate "disgust" from "politics".

Chicks 06-15-2018 07:55 AM

Would be impossible for any decent, rational person NOT to be disgusted by Trump.

whell 06-15-2018 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 372409)
That said, I'm not sure I agree that enmity toward Trump shows political bias. It shows disgust with a profoundly dishonest, narcissistic, unethical and vile....

Hard to have a rational conversation with an irrational person. I'll leave you to your hate filled farcical fantasy land.

Chicks 06-15-2018 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 372413)
Hard to have a rational conversation with an irrational person.

Yes. Yes it is. Glad you’ve finally admitted to your irrational behavior.

Oerets 06-15-2018 08:20 AM

Just how quickly the Cult of Trump and the Corrupblican Party turn on their own. I seem to remember all the clamor and uproar from the Right to crucify HRC over the emails. Comey caved to the pressure when we all know if he had stayed silent and HRC had won there would be torches and pitchforks along with more lethal items crowding the streets.

This is misdirection and feeds to more distrust of the investigators ahead of all the impending charges soon to be announced.




Barney

JJIII 06-15-2018 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dondilion (Post 372410)
hard to separate "disgust" from "politics".


qft.


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finnbow 06-15-2018 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 372410)
Hard to separate "disgust" from "politics".

No, it's not if you have an ounce of decency.

finnbow 06-15-2018 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 372413)
Hard to have a rational conversation with an irrational person. I'll leave you to your hate filled farcical fantasy land.

So, it's irrational to be disgusted by Trump's vile, narcissistic behavior? That says all one needs to know about you. I think it's perfectly OK, even desirable, for the FBI to be biased against a incorrigible liar and Russia-hugger who staffed his campaign with foreign agents and criminals while Russia was meddling in the campaign.

bobabode 06-15-2018 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 372408)
Ok, so we agree. It was political.

So what does that say about the conclusions of the IG report that there was no "political bias" in the investigative process or conclusions?

Oh, and if you read the IG report, you'll find out that the FBI is instituting "political bias training". If there was no political bias, then why institute training designed to eradicate it?

Do you really think these types of juvenile debate tactics that you employ are fooling anyone, Mike?

Dondilion 06-15-2018 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 372415)
Just how quickly the Cult of Trump and the Corrupblican Party turn on their own. I seem to remember all the clamor and uproar from the Right to crucify HRC over the emails. Comey caved to the pressure when we all know if he had stayed silent and HRC had won there would be torches and pitchforks along with more lethal items crowding the streets.

This is misdirection and feeds to more distrust of the investigators ahead of all the impending charges soon to be announced.
Barney

Meaning, one should be quiet re Comey's poor leadership.

BTW the term "Corrupblican", yours?

Chicks 06-15-2018 09:02 AM

Trump’s gaslighting is about to get a lot worse

Of course it is, for consumption by morons like Whell.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...t-a-lot-worse/

I’m going to predict that President Trump is going to lie about this report — a lot — as part of his broader ongoing campaign to delegitimize special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation into his campaign’s collusion with Russia’s sabotage of our election on his behalf.

But the nature of Trump’s lying in this particular case, I think, will command special attention, and it’s not clear that we in the news media are up to dealing with it. The most likely scenario is that Trump will tell a series of lies that aren’t merely dishonest in any conventional sense, but add up to a broader feat of gaslighting that is so spectacularly absurd and self-undermining that it will be hard to adequately convey to news consumers just how deeply saturated in bad faith it really is.

bobabode 06-15-2018 09:16 AM

Watched Trump throw Manafort under the bus again this morning, then he backed over him a couple of times for good measure. Ol' Pauley must be headed to jail this afternoon.

finnbow 06-15-2018 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 372424)
Watched Trump throw Manafort under the bus again this morning, then he backed over him a couple of times for good measure. Ol' Pauley must be headed to jail this afternoon.

If Mueller succeeds in flipping Manafort and Cohen, der Trumpenfuhrer is gonna be in a world of hurt.

Dondilion 06-15-2018 09:25 AM

Manafort put himself under the bus. Witness tampering - WTF.


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