Is This Where We're Headed?
 

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BE1A74E9-1.DTL

In the unlikely event that this monstrosity passes they can have mine.

John

I agree with John Boehner:

"If they're a U.S. citizen, until they're convicted of some crime I don't know how you would attempt to take their citizenship away," Boehner said today at his weekly news conference. "It would be pretty difficult under the U.S. Constitution."

Exactly. It's fine to take away their citizenship if they actively work to attack America. Run off and join the Taliban like that John Walker, then I guess you are pretty well committing treason. But they're innocent until proven guilty, or have we totally abandoned that concept since the passage of the AZ law?

I'd say Lieberman's turn to the Dark Side is now complete. Now he should go kill his father. The Emperor will be pleased.

John Walker Lindh ran off and joined the Taliban before 9/11 and before we invaded Afghanistan. How is that treason?

Moreover, can you assure me that his actions against US and Northern Alliance forces were offensive and not defensive? He was a prisoner of the Northern Alliance who had already murdered hundreds of captured Taliban. The escape attempt and resultant battle could be viewed simply as an effort on the part of the captives to save their lives.

John

Okay, John Walker was a poor example. You get my point.

Yeah, I do. I just don't want us to forget what really happened with "The American Taliban". He's not the monster some people try to make him out to be.

John

Rotflmao!!!

I'm not convinced though, if you were a member of the nazi party during ww2 you probably didn't get much by way of Constitutional protection anyway.

Pete

Let me get this straight Pete. You agree with former Democratic Vice Presidential candidate Joe Liberman and I agree with Republican Minority leader John Boehner.

Anyone need any more proof we're living in the end times?

Nope! I'm convinced.

And check this out! A Foxbot putting the wood to KKKarl Rove!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcsZJ...layer_embedded

John

Run, run, run for your life!!!

There's a swarm of intelligent armored insects coming your way :)

Pete

Why does Lieberman still have a committee chairmanship? He clearly abandoned the party in the health care debate (as if he hadn't during the campaign). It's time to dispense some discipline.

Regards,

D-Ray

No doubt the rapture will start this weekend.:p

Thought it had already started there for a second this afternoon as I watched 10% of my retirement go away.

LOL watching the usually locquacious Karl Rove stammer and stutter while she spanked him was hillary-ous

Anyone know if she's been fired yet?

I didn't need to see that. What an idiot. Karl, sorry buddy, anyone tell you that it was at the bottom of the ocean? Your complaint is what? Obama isn't able to sense disaster? Katrina was on TELEVISION and Bush wasn't doing anything.

Just remember, in the future now will be remembered as the good old days.

It's the brave new world. And as I've said before, I liked the chickenshit old world better. That's why I live in Bugtussell.

Chas

I'm with you. But I have to stay in I'm-happy-so-nothing-matters-and-its-all-so-unfair-suburbland. Fortunately I've got good neighbors (so far, new ones on the left, she looks yuppie).

Pete

It's enough to make ME get religion..........

And Rove..."I'm not trying to lay this at the feet of the Whitehouse...".
Oh bullshit! The only time he stops thowing stones is when he's asleep.
And then he probbly dreaming about it. "Bububub, but..." Babbling idiot.
Thanks for the clip, John.

Dave

Hal - a - lou - ya! We's gettin some CHURCH up in heeah! :D

Pete

What's the church got to do with religion? Inquiring minds want to know.:p

That's where you go to buy some.

Chas

LOL, not trying to hi-jack, this just sparked an old haha.


I can remember hearing Ester sayin' it about like that. And old Fred Sandford sayin' somethin' like, .. '' while you at it .. pray fer your face .. cause it sure is ugly ''.

I miss ole Red Fox.

OMG!

Striping a person of citizenship is the scariest thing I think I have heard. What is the point?

If a person is a citizen, they are a citizen. Even if they commit treason, they are a citizen, they should be tried and punished, but they are a citizen.

What could possibly be gained by stripping an individual of their citizenship? Are they then no longer protected by our laws? Does this mean that we can hold them without rights in jail, without trial? Does this mean since they have been stripped and are not a war criminal we can torture and ignore geneva convention protocol?

Maybe I am being a little paranoid, but this is paramount to a free ticket for the government to do whatever it wants, whenever it wants to whoever it wants.

This is just absolutely crazy!

I wonder what mister liebermna would think if he was being arrested and held as an enemy of the state because of this proposal?

I think the Senator is slipping into senility.

Or to borrow a phrase from the music group, WAR, he is "slipping into darkness."

Regards,

D-Ray

I find him to be a cynical opportunist, any one of our five feral cats has better morals than he does.

This silly notion (stripping citizenship) is just an extension of the Mirandaphobia. If we can call somebody an enemy combatant (instead of a citizen), we can beat the shit out of him and take funny pictures of him while surrounded with angry dogs. It makes us feel tougher.

Thinking back, I wonder what card he was holding to snatch the VP bid. If the winner had been able to take office, I wonder whose side he would be on now. He most certainly would not have had to vote to justify the invasion of Iraq.

Regards,

D-Ray

Lieberman had very publicly condemned Clinton for his sexual indiscretions. I've always felt that had something to do with Gore's choice of him.

John

When you are that downright fugly it is easy to condemn sexual indiscretions.:rolleyes:

I think that Liebermann is the best senator our 51st state ever had.