School shootings on the rise
 

There have been eleven or twelve school shootings so far this year and these are now treated as normal occurrences. There are also moves being made in certain states to arm teachers. These occurrences are flying under the radar because of the Trump Circus in Washington.

Another one today in LA though fortunately no one dead.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/suspect...middle-school/

A twelve years old girl helps making America great again. Congratulations.

Oversupply of a readibly available hazardous commodity combined with careless custodianship and an immature irrational attitude of fanciful entitlement.

Does that mean too many guns and assholes? ;)

School Shooting Simulation Trains Teachers for the Worst
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/01/u...-article-click

How can there be too many assholes since everyone has one?

Pretty much, plus a paucity of common sense.

There are more folks that want firearms than need them, reasons range from necessity thru sensible to irrational.
Since they've long been a for-profit commodity, rather than tools with purpose, promotion of oversupply thru politics was inevitable.

Most of us use motorized vehicles far more frequently than our firearms, yet we do fine with no clamoring for legislation guaranteeing a right to use this, for many of us, necessity. Think about that.

Guns, opioids and idiots in over abundance in this country.

(CNN)The Broward County Sheriff's Office in Florida is responding to reports of a shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland. Broward County Fire Rescue is reporting that 20 people are injured, according to CNN affiliate WSVN. The shooter is still at large, the sheriff's office said on Twitter.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/14/us/fl...ing/index.html

Time to cue up the GOP's shop-worn "thoughts and prayers" rhetoric.

Or,

""This is not the RIGHT time to discuss gun regulations""


Barney

17 dead.

Last I looked, 87% of Americans want tougher rules for guns. Republicans disagree.

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/asse...xlarge-169.jpg

Disturbing sight, children should not have to be subjected to this. :mad:

Rick Scott called the shooting pure evil. I say it's the evil people who are letting this happen time and again.

Do these militia groups break any laws with their recruitment and training?

I was just thinking that if they were not recruiting and training, that might help stop some of the gun violence. But I do not see how they could be shut down if they are not breaking any laws.

Maybe Trump should completely ban all gun sales for 90 days until Congress can "figure out what the hell is going on." (his rationale for his Muslim ban).

Instead, "Trump quietly signed a bill into law Tuesday rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to purchase a gun.

The rule, which was finalized in December, added people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs to the national background check database."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...mental-n727221

Gee Finn.... I do not think the NRA would like Trump to take any action.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/02/15/...ommentary.html

Seems Trump might be a bit beholden to the NRA.

What exactly is the real reason the Gun lobby/right is against regulations I ask?

Personal freedoms?
No!
Self Defense?
No!
Sales and Profits?
Hell Yea!

It all about the money. Like been said more then once about all politicians, follow the money.



Barney

Ya think?;)

But... wait, didn’t candidate Donny reassure his moronic base that he was, like, “really rich”, so wouldn’t be beholden to anyone? :rolleyes:

He said only he could fix everything....

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/492557/

School shootings on the rise
 

Speaker of Lying Donnie Dotard, here's a confirmed picture of the shooter from his Instagram account.

https://s.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/mid...3.08.09+PM.png

^^Think that picture will be splashed on Faux News?

No, the network that spews hate and extreme bias daily is busy calling out ABC over a joke comment on a daytime chatter program. Too absurd.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...ian-faith.html

Phillip Timothy
Yesterday at 6:22pm ·

Next Tuesday we will have an “active shooter” / intruder drill at our school, and I will hunker down behind flimsy wooden cabinet doors with my students.

You see, we open the cabinets and hide behind the doors so that anyone peering into the classrooms will not see us, and maybe think it is an empty room. Maybe we will be unnoticed, which just means maybe he will go to another classroom.

In preparation, I will remind my students tomorrow that our hallway doors should always be locked, so if an intruder shows up we can just pull the doors closed without fiddling with keys. I have assigned students whose job it is to check those doors every period to make sure we don’t forget.

I will try to keep the children quiet during our drill on Tuesday. It’s hard. They’re packed in tight behind those cabinet doors, and they talk and giggle. Because they’re children. They look like young adults, but they’re children.

I will try to keep them quiet, because we hope that this will give that illusion of an empty classroom. I will try to keep them quiet because even though I know it’s a drill, they do not, and they need to treat each drill like the real thing. They must have the procedure driven in by repetition.

Inevitably some children will be sure that it is real, and they will be terrified. Two years ago, one boy - a big hulking kid turning into a “tough guy” - broke down in tears when the administrator jiggled the doorknob to our room while we hid behind the cabinets.

I will sit down and process feelings of fear and panic with at least a few students. How do we process the panic we put them through? Every time we run through these drills, we violate their trust - their trust in us and their trust in a safe, secure world. We violate their trust in the name of safety.

Two years ago, a PE teacher wasn’t informed that the intruder drill was a drill. He panicked, and screamed at the kids to “Shut the fuck Up!” while they were laughing and joking.

Who could blame him? He was terrified.

Afterward, some of the children will talk a big game. How they would jump on a shooter, how they would climb out a window instead of staying in a classroom.

How they’d be a hero.

A few of them ask if I’d do anything to save them in the event of an active shooter. I can’t answer, because although I want to reassure them I really don’t know, and I don’t know how to express all those complicated feelings.

A few will scoff and say, “Of course Mr B wouldn’t do anything. He doesn’t like us.”

And I don’t know what to say to that, either, other than to go back to my lesson plan. I strive to be honest with my students, and the honest answer is that I’d do all I can - I hope - but the human body isn’t much match for gunpowder and lead.

At home I will replay the drill. Did we get it accomplished quickly? Tightly? Efficiently? Are my children safe? Will they be safe?

Can I keep them safe?

(No.)

How would I ever live with it if I lost one?

What about seventeen of them?

Each of these kids, awful and irritating though they can be, is a magical world in and of themself. Four years and one hundred sixty kids in, and they’re still all different and wonderful and fascinating. Every day, if I am very very careful and very very patient and very very lucky, I get to unlock just a little more of one of those fantastic inner worlds.

A chunk of lead, hurtling through the air, thrown by a little explosion triggered by one man’s finger, can destroy that entire world.

I still don’t understand why I am expected to teach my children how to survive in a violent world, but my country isn’t expected to make the world less violent.

None of these questions are academic. None of these questions are distant or political. They are meat and blood and gristle, and they are lives lived in fear for so long that my children don’t know anything that isn’t fear.

So I really don’t give a damn how important owning a gun is to you.

So what is the solution?

If appropriate steps were implemented years ago like a national standardized permitting and licensing. With a mental fitness and crosschecked background investigation. No private unsupervised weapon transfers. Need to do all transfers thru a police department without a charge at time. Fees from gun permits are apportioned from owners. Require owners to carry insurance.
Then we may have never reached this level of senseless violence. My fear is now that the window of getting any effective regulation not going to happen. Not until an event is so heinous that even those who sold their souls to the NRA can't be silent anymore.


""The 10 Politicians That Have Received the Most Money From the NRA""

http://fortune.com/2018/02/15/nra-co...ians-senators/

""In the 2016 election, the NRA spent $11,438,118 to support Donald Trump—and another $19,756,346 to oppose Hillary Clinton. That’s over $31 million spent on one presidential race.""




Barney

Mr. Phillip Timothy is tremendously articulate, and a good man, and should not have to devote so much of his time and concern to this topic.

This "right" without a purpose has become a deadly burden on it's subjects.
The acceptable impractical solution requires a time machine and two trips to the past.
The first to 1865 to repeal the second amendment in light of the Southern rebellion, and to 1934 to include the control of semi-automatic weapons with automatic weapons in the NFA act.
Responsible trustworthy citizens would still legally own and use permitted firearms for permitted purposes.

The practical present solution, given the disinformation and cash driven politics eludes me.

School shootings on the rise
 

We only have to interpret the second amendment the way it was intended.
And then enact sensible and reasonable gun laws.

"permitted firearms for permitted purposes."

Where does "shall not be infringed" fit into that?

It doesn't with the repeal.
Without a regulated militia for the National defense, the 2nd amendment loses it's purpose, and is null and void.
Read it again.

With that argument then ownership of chemical biological nuclear weapons be legal to own and use by ALL citizens?

In this day and age anyone who still holds onto a armed citizen standing up to real aggression by an opposing armed force. With an AR-15 and a .45 and then coming out victorious.
Is only fooling themselves. Or justifying the ownership of lethal weapons being used as a toy.
A armed force with remote controlled standoff smart bombs. Armored vehicles with highly trained personal attacking citizens in these modern times require then same to withstand.



Barney

About a year ago Trump signed a law making it impossible to prohibit sales of firearms to people who have mental disabilities. Such a law also had to go through both congressional assemblies.

Now some of the same people who made this law possible are talking about "prayer."

Our kids are being killed by people like you. Just shut the fuck up!

And people like you wasted no time politicizing this tragedy. Congrats! :rolleyes:

And you can go pull your head out of your ass.

Bite me!