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donquixote99 01-26-2018 06:24 AM

Snapshots of Your DEMOCRATIC Party, 21st Century Style
 
"Democrats go for the jugular! (their own)"

David Brooks delivers THE after-action report on the recent governmental shutdown. Some of the finest punditry you will ever read. Democrats are truly skewered. Alas, they deserve to be.

I love this bit:

Quote:

Third, Democrats devised a brilliant Tao Te Ching messaging strategy. The ancient Chinese master informs us, “Being and not being create each other. … Before and after follow each other.” In this way, he teaches the paradoxical infinity of ultimate truth.

The Democrats captured this same paradoxical profundity with their superb messaging over the weekend: We bravely shut down the government to save the Dreamers even though Donald Trump is responsible for shutting down the government.

The ancient Chinese master bows in respect.

Read more here: http://www.fresnobee.com/opinion/opn...#storylink=cpy

Dondilion 01-26-2018 09:16 AM

The Democrats are prisoners.

nailer 01-26-2018 09:20 AM

Prisoners of American Fascism.

Dondilion 01-26-2018 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nailer (Post 366683)
Prisoners of American Fascism.

Democrats are prisoners: They have invested so much in trying to legitimize/co-opt illegal immigrants that they now find themselves being led, intimidated by said immigrants.

Over the weekend Schumer was under "house arrest". :D

Nailer, you often refer to American Fascism. I still do not get a feel to what you are alluding.

Could you kindly expand.

Rajoo 01-26-2018 10:23 AM

I know I shouldn't be saying this, but I told y'all so.
Taking up DACA, which anyway one looks at is law breaking, is not a noble cause. YMMV.
One can be sympathetic to these children, but not make them 'cause celebre' and sshut down the government. Tail wagging the dog.
The tax cuts and lack of an operating budget would have been much better issues.

Pio1980 01-26-2018 12:50 PM

Not the battle I would have chosen at this time.
The "wall" from the budgeting aspect otoh, infrastructure vs this low priority /low return costly grandstanding boondoggle? Yes, definitely!

icenine 01-26-2018 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 366686)
I know I shouldn't be saying this, but I told y'all so.
Taking up DACA, which anyway one looks at is law breaking, is not a noble cause. YMMV.
One can be sympathetic to these children, but not make them 'cause celebre' and sshut down the government. Tail wagging the dog.
The tax cuts and lack of an operating budget would have been much better issues.

Actually the consensus is that the tax cuts may help Trump.

I cannot itemize any more since I am near to the end of my mortgage.

The 22k tax deduction will help me but not the nation. Many will see a short term benefit from the tax plan and Trump may ride the wave.


Trump wants to cut legal immigration by 50 percent because he he doesn't like black and brown people so he is about to trap the Democrats into a corner since he wants to gut legal immigration in return for a DACA "victory".

The Dems should not shut down the government and wait until November.
This DACA crisis can be solved by Trump himself. We shouldn't let this jerk institute a nativist immigration policy using the guise of his own self-created DACA crisis.

whell 01-31-2018 07:02 AM

The SOTU gave us the new 21st Century face of the Dem party. It looks like this.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DU1yMcUUMAAJZr9.jpg

Chicks 01-31-2018 07:53 AM

Should be the face of any decent person reacting to Trump. He’s as evil as Hitler.

finnbow 01-31-2018 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 366782)
The SOTU gave us the new 21st Century face of the Dem party. It looks like this.

She has a hell of a nerve not prostrating herself before a narcissistic, misogynistic racist and compulsive liar as you repeatedly do. The horror!:rolleyes:

Chicks 08-31-2018 07:01 PM

California Democrat urges boycott of In-N-Out for donating to GOP. The burger chain gives to Democrats, too.

Yes, Democrats do really stupid things, too. One of the reasons I am fiercely independent. Thankfully, smarter Dems intervened. I'm not about to boycott In-N-Out, one of my few guilty pleasures.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...710_story.html

Quote:

California’s Democratic Party chairman nearly launched a food fight Wednesday when he called for a boycott of In-N-Out Burger over a contribution the popular fast-food chain made to the state Republican Party.

Eric Bauman, chair of the California Democratic Party, tweeted Wednesday:

“Et tu In-N-Out? Tens of thousands of dollars donated to the California Republican Party . . . it’s time to #BoycottInNOut — let Trump and his cronies support these creeps . . . perhaps animal style!”

Democrats swiftly dialed back Bauman’s call for people to stop eating at the chain’s 330-plus locations, which attract a passionate following across six states with their simple burgers-fries-and-shakes approach and “secret menu” (from which customers can order their burgers “animal style.”)

A spokesman for the California Democrats said the party will not pursue the boycott.

Pio1980 09-01-2018 11:04 AM

Didn't I&O hedge by donating to both parties?
My protests go to no support for local and national businesses that supported Trump.

bobabode 09-01-2018 03:32 PM

"By Thursday morning, his tweet had morphed into a national political story, and the state party was clarifying Bauman’s remarks. Bauman on Thursday referred calls to the party’s communications director, John Vigna, who said the chair’s tweet was “just his personal view” and the boycott isn’t being considered as an official California Democratic Party policy.

“We’re not happy that In-N-Out gave the money, but we’re not calling for an official boycott,” Vigna said. “Democrats are very fired up. Chair [Bauman] is definitely giving voice to a feeling a lot of people have right now.”

In-N-Out, meanwhile, quickly put out a statement by Executive Vice President Arnie Wensinger that noted that the company “made equal contributions to both Democratic and Republican” political action committees in California in 2018.

Filings show that the restaurant chain gave at least $80,000 this election cycle to Californians for Jobs and a Strong Economy, a committee focused on electing business-friendly Democrats to the state Legislature. The chain also gave at least $30,000 to the committee in 2016.

“For years, In-N-Out Burger has supported lawmakers who, regardless of political affiliation, promote policies that strengthen California and allow us to continue operating with the values of providing strong pay and great benefits for our associates,” Wensinger said." LA Times

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...830-story.html


Looks like the Democratic chair shot off his piehole without thinking. :rolleyes: Meanwhile, back at the ranch, gimme a double-double with grilled onions, please. ;)

bobabode 09-08-2018 02:09 PM

'The Herbal Tea Party'
 
Some call it the resistance; others label it the herbal tea party.
Whatever the name, liberal insurgents demanding a more confrontational approach to President Trump and his Republican allies upended the Democratic establishment last week. From Boston’s Charles River to the Senate committee rooms at the Capitol, from Chicago’s City Hall to Delaware’s beaches, veteran Democrats found themselves under fire from political newcomers or upstaged by junior colleagues.

The moments suggested that Democrats are now in the throes of something resembling what Republicans went through eight years ago. That’s when the so-called tea party began to seize control of the GOP in a manner that still wreaks havoc within the House and Senate caucuses.

For Democrats, the first blow came Tuesday night when Boston City Council member Ayanna Pressley, 44, routed one of the party’s most reliably liberal incumbents, Rep. Michael E. Capuano (Mass.), in a primary. In Chicago, Mayor Rahm Emanuel, who once aspired to build a Daley-style reign in that city, bowed out of his reelection bid in the face of a crowded field of liberal challengers and continued protests against the police department....

… “The political establishment has gotten us Donald Trump, it’s gotten us the worst political position for the Democratic Party since the 1920s. We need change, and change is coming,” said Rep. Seth Moulton (D-Mass.), a thorn in his leadership’s side who himself first won office by defeating an 18-year incumbent four years ago...

… Republican leaders know well that the most dangerous intraparty rivals are not in competitive swing districts but in the safest GOP-leaning districts. Tea party groups intentionally focused on trying to elect the most confrontational lawmakers in solid Republican districts, and from that effort came the House Freedom Caucus.

Those far-right lawmakers drove the federal government into a shutdown in
October 2013 and helped oust John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) from the speaker’s office two years later. They are threatening to support another government shutdown this fall.

Moulton believes that, if they win the majority, Democrats will avoid those pitfalls — but only because Democrats tend to support the federal government.

“The tea party tries to destroy government,” he said. “We need to restore faith in government. Sometimes that means being willing to go against the establishment, but that doesn’t mean tearing apart the institutions.” WaPo

https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...=.359601f72b76

All hail the "herbal" tea party! Puff, puff. :cool:

bobabode 09-13-2018 04:53 PM

I'm lovin' this Beto O'Rourke guy in Texas. The dude reminds me of Bobby Kennedy. He's almost tied with Ted Cruz at this point. :cool:

Rajoo 09-14-2018 07:09 AM

Beto O'Rourke appeared on Colbet's Late Show this week.
Quote:

“Beto is running in Texas against incumbent senator, and man whose campaign staff is definitely watching this show right now, Ted Cruz,” Colbert said.

Colbert also ridiculed Cruz for begging the increasingly unpopular President Donald Trump to help him campaign even though they have had a public feud for years.

“You know it’s bad when you need backup from a man with a 36% approval rating,” Colbert joked. “Their backup plan is a celebrity endorsement from the herpes virus.”

“Here’s how scared Ted Cruz is of Beto O’Rourke,” Colbert explained. “He bought ads on my show tonight to counter his interview.”
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/09...late-show.html

nailer 09-14-2018 01:44 PM

I know a few Republicans who will be pulling the Beto lever.

Chicks 09-15-2018 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 375251)
I'm lovin' this Beto O'Rourke guy in Texas. The dude reminds me of Bobby Kennedy. He's almost tied with Ted Cruz at this point. :cool:

Mr Smith Goes To Washington
https://i1.wp.com/www.filminquiry.co...00%2C700&ssl=1

Chicks 09-15-2018 12:55 AM

Willie Nelson is playing a political concert for Beto O’Rourke. Some fans are abandoning him.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...bandoning-him/

Guess I'll dig out my copy of Red Headed Stranger tomorrow...

donquixote99 09-15-2018 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 375272)
Willie Nelson is playing a political concert for Beto O’Rourke. Some fans are abandoning him.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...bandoning-him/

Guess I'll dig out my copy of Red Headed Stranger tomorrow...

You know that one line in 'Red Headed Stranger,' the one that goes "You can't hang a man for shooting a woman who was trying to steal his horse?"

Ever hear a live performance where some people cheer on that line? Those would be the fans abandoning Willie Nelson here.

Who needs 'em?

Chicks 09-15-2018 01:23 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnG92qnX...all?format=jpg

Chicks 09-19-2018 09:37 PM

Beto takes a narrow lead over Lizard Man in latest poll.

https://www.texastribune.org/2018/09...s-senate-race/

Rajoo 09-19-2018 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 375279)

Would work well as a poster or an ad, but he needs to take out the line "For once Trump is not lyin". Any mention of Trump by his opposition is going to rile up his base.

Chicks 10-30-2018 02:14 PM

Under new Oregon law, all eligible voters are registered unless they opt out

While vile, hateful Repubes in red states do everything in their power to suppress the vote, Oregon’s enlightened Democratic leadership ensures everyone is registered automatically.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...317-story.html

Chicks 11-06-2018 12:30 AM

https://scontent.fmcc1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...78&oe=5C764C1F

Chicks 11-12-2018 05:41 PM

Michelle Obama's memoir tops Amazon best-seller list days ahead of release

Maybe she should run in 2020. Class, dignity, grace, intelligence, respect, integrity, honesty; the polar opposite of the pig-in-chief.

http://lite.cnn.io/en/article/h_9423...73e90e69037a80

Chicks 11-14-2018 09:46 AM

Good backgrounder on Gavin Newsom, our new Gov here in the Golden State. Don’t know much about him, but it sounds like he’ll maintain the great fiscal conservative policies of Brown, who brought us from huge Republican deficits to a nice budget surplus, by saying “no” to the Democratic legislature.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...n-party-222464

Chicks 11-19-2018 01:03 PM

Sixteen House Democrats vow to oppose Pelosi as next speaker

Really dumb move. She just spearheaded a huge win for the House, and now you want to dump her? She’s proven that she can lead and unify the party, which is going to be crucial going up against Donny. :rolleyes:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...d09_story.html

finnbow 11-19-2018 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 376073)
Sixteen House Democrats vow to oppose Pelosi as next speaker

Really dumb move. She just spearheaded a huge win for the House, and now you want to dump her? She’s proven that she can lead and unify the party, which is going to be crucial going up against Donny. :rolleyes:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...d09_story.html

This'll crumble, I bet. You can beat something with nothing and these folks don't even have a candidate.

Chicks 11-19-2018 08:55 PM

40 years later, Rep. Speier looks back on surviving Jonestown

Great NewsHour interview of Rep. Speier, who survived being shot by Jonestown cultists. Trumpkin cultists are every bit as misguided and dangerous as the Jones followers, sadly. They learned nothing from this tragedy.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/40...ving-jonestown

donquixote99 11-20-2018 05:43 AM

Hitler tried, in his downfall, to take all Germany with him. See "Nero Decree."

It may be worth remembering the Jonestown example if it looks like things are getting really bad for Trump.

BlueStreak 11-20-2018 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 376083)
Hitler tried, in his downfall, to take all Germany with him. See "Nero Decree."

It may be worth remembering the Jonestown example if it looks like things are getting really bad for Trump.

For lack of a better way of asking...……..

Do you sense that some of them at least are beginning to see Bullshit Mountain for what it really is?

I was happy to see my oldest brother, after 50 years as an NRA member finally dropped out of that organization. "They're nothing but a bunch of political, money grubbing pr**ks trying to scare people into paying dues and voting for Republicans.".... Okay, so he's a little slow on the uptake but, it was nice to see the light come on. :) In the '80s he did figure out how Holy Roller t.v. Evangelists fit into the far right wing cult when Robertson ran for president. So, it takes a while but he's making progress.

BlueStreak 11-20-2018 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 376075)
This'll crumble, I bet. You can beat something with nothing and these folks don't even have a candidate.

Trump wants her to stay on as Speaker. I don't know, Pat. That alone is not a good sign.

donquixote99 11-20-2018 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 376084)
For lack of a better way of asking...……..

Do you sense that some of them at least are beginning to see Bullshit Mountain for what it really is?

I was happy to see my oldest brother, after 50 years as an NRA member finally dropped out of that organization. "They're nothing but a bunch of political, money grubbing pr**ks trying to scare people into paying dues and voting for Republicans.".... Okay, so he's a little slow on the uptake but, it was nice to see the light come on. :) In the '80s he did figure out how Holy Roller t.v. Evangelists fit into the far right wing cult when Robertson ran for president. So, it takes a while but he's making progress.

Glad to hear your brother is capable of thinking, though he seems to need his own time to do it.... ;)

I would say the Trump wave has crested, and will be receding to some degree, though not markedly, in the normal course of things.

'The normal course of things' may not be what we get, of course. With investigations, and the possibility of fascist violence at home or abroad, the deck has plenty of jokers.

donquixote99 11-25-2018 07:36 AM

Sully for President!

Didn't get to see this before-election TV appearance until today, although I'd read his op-ed, of course. But his actual 'presentation of self' in the political context is amazing. In thinking and demeanor he is everything Trump is not. He is the perfect anti-Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHRiEjJgjps

Something tell me the Democrats are not falling over themselves trying to recruit this man as a candidate. Too bad.

donquixote99 11-25-2018 07:40 AM

https://i.chzbgr.com/full/4116457472/h6FB1848F/

Chicks 11-29-2018 07:12 PM

California Democratic Party leader Eric Bauman to resign after accusations of sexual misconduct

Boorish behavior isn't limited to Repubes, sadly.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-...129-story.html

Chicks 12-12-2018 04:50 PM

After Nancy Pelosi’s performance in the Oval Office yesterday, showing the world what an incompetent buffoon the “great dealmaker” really is, does anyone now doubt that she’ll be elected Speaker? She’s an amazing pol.

Oerets 12-12-2018 05:46 PM

Skool'd little the ol Donald!

Chicks 01-03-2019 08:00 PM

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Exposed as Extremely Corny in College

Some dumbass right wingnut tried to "out" her for.... having fun with friends as a Boston University student. Right wingers must have really sad, pathetic lives. So full of hate. Sheesh.

Was at BU for graduation of a close friend's daughter a couple years back. Great school, great city.

https://theslot.jezebel.com/alexandr...1831466351/amp


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