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JCricket 12-01-2017 09:09 AM

Flynn to plead guilty to lying to fbi
 
Anyone want to take bets on a presidential pardon to follow soon?

Oerets 12-01-2017 09:10 AM

If Flynn had thought so do you think he would be pleading guilty now?



Barney

JCricket 12-01-2017 09:27 AM

That is why I think he is pleading guilty. He has been trapped and can get a pardon. I wonder if he gets a pardon, if the prosecution loses its leverage over him?

Rajoo 12-01-2017 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JCricket (Post 364604)
That is why I think he is pleading guilty. He has been trapped and can get a pardon. I wonder if he gets a pardon, if the prosecution loses its leverage over him?

If that happens, the obstruction to justice case against Trump will get bigger.

Oerets 12-05-2017 06:01 PM

So is Flynn under any threats of loosing his retirement benefits?

Could this be also used as leverage?

According to the Hiss Act, as amended in 1961, only convictions (after retirement) for "crimes of national security." Therefore, retirement pay could continue.

That being said, military retirees are still subject to the UCMJ. There is the possibility that he could be reactivated and charged under the UCMJ in order to stop his retirement.


Barney

Rajoo 12-05-2017 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 364859)
So is Flynn under any threats of loosing his retirement benefits?

Could this be also used as leverage?

According to the Hiss Act, as amended in 1961, only convictions (after retirement) for "crimes of national security." Therefore, retirement pay could continue.

That being said, military retirees are still subject to the UCMJ. There is the possibility that he could be reactivated and charged under the UCMJ in order to stop his retirement.


Barney

General Flynn served in the US Military for 33 years and then retired in 2014.
That is in the past and should be set aside in my opinion.

Pio1980 12-05-2017 06:21 PM

Collusion with a hostile foreign agency?
Dunno about that as a charge of treason, yet. Could turn up the heat on him.

Rajoo 12-05-2017 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 364864)
Collusion with a hostile foreign agency?
Dunno about that as a charge of treason, yet. Could turn up the heat on him.

I personally think he was in it for the money and probably bit off more than what he could chew. Doesn't look like he ran a very sophisticated lobbying operation. I actually feel sorry for this dude getting caught up with crooks like Manafort, Trump & Kushner.

Oerets 12-05-2017 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 364862)
General Flynn served in the US Military for 33 years and then retired in 2014.
That is in the past and should be set aside in my opinion.

More of a reason for him to be prosecuted. He just forgot what country he served and is drawing a pension from!



Barney

barbara 12-05-2017 08:29 PM

It is hard for me to feel sorry for him. He is all grown up and knows what is right and wrong... he should have had the integrity to do the right thing. If money was the motivator, then he should pay the price for his wrong doing.

Dondilion 12-06-2017 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by barbara (Post 364874)
It is hard for me to feel sorry for him. He is all grown up and knows what is right and wrong... he should have had the integrity to do the right thing. If money was the motivator, then he should pay the price for his wrong doing.

What did Flynn do which would differentiate him from the other hustlers who got Russian money?

Oerets 12-06-2017 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 364887)
What did Flynn do which would differentiate him from the other hustlers who got Russian money?

Got caught!



Barney

finnbow 12-06-2017 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 364887)
What did Flynn do which would differentiate him from the other hustlers who got Russian money?

He was a retired General Officer and the National Security Advisor. As the former, you can't take money from foreigners without specific advance permission and as NSA you don't lie to the FBI on your 4th day in office.

barbara 12-06-2017 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 364887)
What did Flynn do which would differentiate him from the other hustlers who got Russian money?



What makes you think I do not hold others to the same standard?


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