I hope you can let this go
 

aka obstruction of justice.:rolleyes:

T'Rumplestiltskin is finding out what happens when you fuck with the FBI. :cool:

Just what is it gonna take for the supporters of the orange one to see the truth?


Barney

"Don't fuck with the FBI" should probably rank right at the top of the list of classic blunders, right after "never get involved in a land war in Asia."

Just hope Trump doesn't run the list....

For the hard core (25-30%) just about nothing will do it as long as Trump keeps fighting. Only when he surrenders or dies will the bond be broken.

They may 'see the truth,' but it won't matter, they still will stay loyal.

In the eyes of many of Trump's supporters, he is an outsider elected for the express purpose of draining the swamp (lay waste the establishment). As long as the establishment is still there and Trump keeps pointing his fingers at others, they will believe him. He is their hero and Trump will always find a scapegoat.

And instead he made the White House into an even bigger swamp.

It even has Caffretz ready to subpoena Comey's notes. Guess he plans to run for the Bishop's seat in the Senate.

Reminds me I just had our septic tank pumped out.:)

I hope Democrats can let this go. But I suspect that they'll just find something else to obsess about.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/read...-conversations

Comey will also testify that he told the President on three separate occasions that he was not personally the target of the federal intelligence investigation—assurances Trump spoke about publicly. A key caveat, however, is that Comey told Trump he was reluctant to make that information public “because it would create a duty to correct, should that change,” per the statement.

Comey confirmed that, at the time, Trump was not a subject of the counter-intelligence investigation (though his minions were). There is a good chance, however, that he is the subject of an obstruction of justice investigation by Mueller. In any event, Trump is a low-life, malignant skank and your unwavering loyalty to him says a great deal about you.

Too bad that has absolutely nothing to do with Trump's obstruction of Justice that will come to light tomorrow.

Jump aboard the sinking ship boys. :rolleyes:

So, what I heard on tv from the "experts" is that the language used is important. Within the investigative team there is a difference between a "subject" of an investigation and a "target" of an investigation.

They mentioned other nuances of language that would make a difference but those two terms are what seemed to be the crux of the issue they were debating.

"James Comey’s seven-page written statement, released by the Senate Intelligence Committee this afternoon in connection with Comey’s impending testimony tomorrow, draws no conclusions, makes no allegations, and indeed, expresses no opinions. It recounts, in spare and simple prose, a set of facts to which Comey is prepared to testify under oath tomorrow. Despite this sparseness, or maybe I should say because of it, it is the most shocking single document compiled about the official conduct of the public duties of any President since the release of the Watergate tapes." Lawfare

https://www.lawfareblog.com/initial-...tten-testimony

Cling, baby. Cling. :rolleyes:

Thank you for the explanation and it does make sense. So with this caveat, those around Trump directly involved in Russian meddling are targets such as Flynn & Kushner. I simply cannot believe that Trump did not know what was going on at least in essence.

Unlike with 45, the grown-ups know that words matter, and precise communication depends on their meaning in context.

I'm beginning to think a law degree would be helpful in understanding all of this.

And, I believe the current questioning has more to do about if Trump tried to have the initial investigation squashed rather than the contact with Russians.

E.J. Dionne: A constitutionally impossible relationship - http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/537838...e-relationship

Same with hard core Hitlerists, even in Spring, 1945!

Today is a great day, I feel pretty good that Comey, like the little boy in the fairy tale, is about to tell the whole world "the Emperor has no clothes".



Colbert was hilarious last night reading excerpts of Comey's prepared statements as well, some bizarre stuff indeed.



https://youtu.be/yrIXBklJ5YQ

I agree with you. But America's "little boy" is 203 centimeters tall...;)

Keeping my fingers crossed for a good show!

203 centimeters of integrity.

That example was in my mind. Others deserted, but the hard core kept fighting in utterly hopeless situation, until they heard Hitler was dead. That's the authoritarian leader-follower bond, and it's why we may have an actual fight on our hands here, in a while.

https://www.wsws.org/asset/e309ee3c-...ition=image480

A squad of mostly-junior officers was assembled behind Trump for a short time during his inaugural speech. No administration sources would comment on this unusual military display. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/201.../mili-j23.html

And much later than that. As a kid in Mannheim in the early 1960's, my landlord and his wife were still outspoken fans of Hitler. I also ran into some crusty old coots during the '78-'86 time frame while drinking in the beer halls of Munich and country guesthouses near Fulda who were still outspoken Hitler fans.

They want to believe in their dear leader, no matter that he lies to them, and is a miserable failure at governance. Trump supporters are about as stupid as Mussolini supporters...

http://www.snopes.com/history/govern/trains.asp

I had heard about that, but never encountered it. Conservative clockstopper mentality, with a dose of "I've got (had) mine, fuck you".

Comey confirming what we all knew already. Trump and his crew will lie, cheat, defame. Bunch of scumbags. Throw them out!

Comey: "Lordy, I hope there are tapes!"

Me too, but I'm pretty sure the liar-in-chief has destroyed them by now.

So far, no testimony from Comey to suggest obstruction, so you may be disappointing here as well.

Its also good to see that you've moved away from accusations of criminal behavior prior to or after the election, and now focused on the "process crime" of obstruction. Still, I can imagine how disappointing it is when your hopes are dashed. :rolleyes:

No evidence.

The failure to have a coronation has evolved in multiple efforts to cripple the state.

Goodness, did Sen McCain forget to take his meds this morning? Twice he mixed up Comey with Trump. Then he carried on as if the Russian investigation and the Clinton email investigation were one and the same! I thought he was one of the never Trump white hats, but here he sounded like a doddering old fool.

A song for Cheetolini... :cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE5Ve0y0m1Y

Perhaps a compromised Queen would have been better than an out of control know nothing pussy grabbing dictator. :D

Trump this morning, addressing a mostly white, red state audience:

"We will always support our evangelical community and defend your right and the right of all Americans to follow and to live by the teachings of their faith,” he said. “And as you know, we are under siege. You understand that. But we will come out bigger and better and stronger than ever, you watch.”

So, are Muslims included in "all Americans", Donny? How about agnostics and atheists? Who, exactly, is under siege? By whom? Aren't you, Donny boy, supposed to be the leader of all Americans? Shouldn't you be trying to reconcile differences among us, not tearing us apart by telling a mostly white Republican minority group they are "under siege"?

We called them "Altnazis". There were a lot of them. It is a shame.

The elevation of this arrogant vacuous incompetent asshole to the Oval has done that.

Feel the need to take a shower after watching Kasowitz's statement. What a slimeball. Easy to see why no legit law firm wants to represent Trump and have to deal with this guy.

That's exactly what got Nixon.

Evidence of a cover-up, certainly.